The DoJ has opened a criminal investigation into E. Jean Carroll

Hotshoe

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What we're amazed by is your need to be technically correct in this case even over empathy for any women in your life.

"Dear, even though you were violently penetrated, you weren't raped because he used his fingers and we were vacationing in New York. Isn't it enough for you to just be sexually assaulted?"
Show everyone one here where empathy is part of the law in America. Fellings, nothing more than feelings. You are absolutely clueless regarding the law.

A Jurisprudence of Empathy Undermines the Rule of Law: Sotomayor Edition https://lawliberty.org/a-jurisprudence-of-empathy-undermines-the-rule-of-law-sotomayor-edition/
 

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You're simply a clown and disingenuous liar at this point. Biden couldn't even take unscripted questions from the media. He specifically worked against Americans to censor and shut down free speech. He pressured every platform to do so. Sit down pup.
Answer the question @sshole with no "but Bidens." Do you approve of him demanding the personal info of anonymous posters who criticize ICE?
 

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I clearly, THREE TIMES, asked you to put Trump’s case aside and apply the actions to your female family members. You are totally incapable of doing that. You would rather be technically correct than show common empathy to those in your life.
Wth do you keep pushing his family based solely on feelings? Feelings are not part of any law in America. It's precisely why we have the best system in the world. Our system is based on laws and is specifically designed to keep your nonsense outside of it to get to the truth, and not, mob rule like you obviously propose to make you feel better. It's called the law. Period, end of story.
 

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Answer the question @sshole with no "but Bidens." Do you approve of him demanding the personal info of anonymous posters who criticize ICE?
You actually believe you can direct my speech, you little authoritarian? Y'all had 16 years to produce evidence and y'all did nothing. Get lost. Then you change the subject because I owned you on legal facts. Get lost
 

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Answer the question @sshole with no "but Bidens." Do you approve of him demanding the personal info of anonymous posters who criticize ICE?
you know I still haven't seen that anywhere else than in your post. Not implying it's wrong, but boy certainly hasn't been picked up anywhere else. Now admittedly I haven't gotten to a couple of my normal media yet today. Maybe it will show up in WSJ
 

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You actually believe you can direct my speech, you little authoritarian? Y'all had 16 years to produce evidence and y'all did nothing. Get lost. Then you change the subject because I owned you on legal facts. Get lost
I just won the argument dick for brains. This is an authoritarian presidency but you refuse to acknowledge it because your man-love is so deep.
 
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you know I still haven't seen that anywhere else than in your post. Not implying it's wrong, but boy certainly hasn't been picked up anywhere else. Now admittedly I haven't gotten to a couple of my normal media yet today. Maybe it will show up in WSJ
I attached an article from Bloomberg which isn't exactly fake news. You can also Google it. It's not made up.
 

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Wth do you keep pushing his family based solely on feelings? Feelings are not part of any law in America. It's precisely why we have the best system in the world. Our system is based on laws and is specifically designed to keep your nonsense outside of it to get to the truth, and not, mob rule like you obviously propose to make you feel better. It's called the law. Period, end of story.
So, @Hotshoe you acknowledge Trump is a sexual abuser, a convicted felon, and Jan 6 felons were appropriately convicted?
 
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you know I still haven't seen that anywhere else than in your post. Not implying it's wrong, but boy certainly hasn't been picked up anywhere else. Now admittedly I haven't gotten to a couple of my normal media yet today. Maybe it will show up in WSJ

 
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I attached an article from Bloomberg which isn't exactly fake news. You can also Google it. It's not made up.
no, didn't think it was made up, didn't think to Google it. I read enough papers/news feeds and just haven't seen it. But I'll take your advice and Google it..thanks
 

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Wth do you keep pushing his family based solely on feelings? Feelings are not part of any law in America. It's precisely why we have the best system in the world. Our system is based on laws and is specifically designed to keep your nonsense outside of it to get to the truth, and not, mob rule like you obviously propose to make you feel better. It's called the law. Period, end of story.
I'm pretty sure he is not talking about the legal system or legal definitions. He's talking about how YOU, or I or ANYONE on the street would define rape.

Rape is another word for sexual assault to the person on the street. You and yours are just so far up Trump's behind you retreat behind legalisms and technicalities to shield yourselves from dealing with the actual reality of your cult leader and who/what he really is.
 

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He's not talking about the legal system or legal definitions. He's talking about how YOU, or I or ANYONE on the street would define rape.

Rape is another word for sexual assault to the person on the street. You and yours are just so far up Trump's behind you retreat behind legalisms and technicalities to shield yourselves from dealing with the actual reality of your cult leader and who/what he really is.
I'm not sure where you're trying to go, but a question...is sexual assault another word for rape? because the NY jury, in the trump case rejected a claim of rape and found trump liable for a lesser charge....sexual assault. There have been many many people convicted for sexual assault that went nowhere toward the level of rape.

I'm not passionate about any of this, as I have been accused. And I personally don't care if Trump had been convicted of rape or sexual assault or both. I'm just trying to get people who are not "dealing with the actual reality of the cult leader and who/what he really is" to recognize the fact of the jury finding in the E Jean Carroll case. period...

Folks just go off on these accusations, many of which are accurate about trump. Do we really need to exaggerate a jury's findings to make a point when the public record clearly shows what those finding are? Aren't there enough accurate negatives about trump without making up new ones?
 

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I'm not sure where you're trying to go, but a question...is sexual assault another word for rape? because the NY jury, in the trump case rejected a claim of rape and found trump liable for a lesser charge....sexual assault. There have been many many people convicted for sexual assault that went nowhere toward the level of rape.

I'm not passionate about any of this, as I have been accused. And I personally don't care if Trump had been convicted of rape or sexual assault or both. I'm just trying to get people who are not "dealing with the actual reality of the cult leader and who/what he really is" to recognize the fact of the jury finding in the E Jean Carroll case. period...

Folks just go off on these accusations, many of which are accurate about trump. Do we really need to exaggerate a jury's findings to make a point when the public record clearly shows what those finding are? Aren't there enough accurate negatives about trump without making up new ones?
Did you not read what I said?

I specifically said I'm not talking about the legal system or legal definitions, I'm talking man on the street.

It's a complete distraction from the horror of these types of crimes to try and and pretend the real discussion should be about semantics per the legal distinction between "sexual assault" and "rape" than the act itself.

It's kind of disgusting actually.
 
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Yep/ People like JinxyPat, Hermy McFluffins, and Captain Houseboat. That oughta tell you something.
Get lost tubby. You're not only a joke of a lawyer, I've never once listed to Tim Pool. He was never charged with anything, nor did the Biden administration go after him. Try harder, and next time bring facts.
 

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I just won the argument dick for brains. This is an authoritarian presidency but you refuse to acknowledge it because your man-love is so deep.
You haven't won sh&t. You're nothing but a drama queen, beta. You're on here all day and night. You're entire pathetic life revolves around Trump. The only authoritarian is you. Mr. You don't belong here. Little guppy, you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper sack.
 

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You haven't won sh&t. You're nothing but a drama queen, beta. You're on here all day and night. You're entire pathetic life revolves around Trump. The only authoritarian is you. Mr. You don't belong here. Little guppy, you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper sack.
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Oh look, more nothingness. Feel better? Y'alls life is this board and nothing else. How pathetic. Show me on your doll where Trump hurt you. No, you're not getting a puppy. I wouldn't trust one of you with an animal other than a cat. Lib Socialists love cats. Lmao.
Don't run from the charge that I wrongly called him a Nazi if you do everything in your power to deflect and ignore the many un-American, Nazi-esque things he's done. How could you love that tub of orange goo so much that you will rage while defending him at all costs? But why? He's been an objectively horrible president, the most unpopular in history and yet you live to glaze him.

The only thing that makes sense is because he hates the same people you do, though nobody hates as hard as you do. You are one sad fvkk.
 
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Did you not read what I said?

I specifically said I'm not talking about the legal system or legal definitions, I'm talking man on the street.

It's a complete distraction from the horror of these types of crimes to try and and pretend the real discussion should be about semantics per the legal distinction between "sexual assault" and "rape" than the act itself.

It's kind of disgusting actually.
He won't acknowledge that because it takes away from his technical claim that Trump wasn't found liable of rape.
 

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Do we really need to exaggerate a jury's findings to make a point when the public record clearly shows what those finding are?

This is my favorite part. He says “exaggerate” like there’s a big difference between rape and sexual abuse, especially with what Trump was found liable of. As if one is better or worse than the other. It’s like arguing the difference between an OWI and a DUI.

Keep fighting that good fight!
 

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Did you not read what I said?

I specifically said I'm not talking about the legal system or legal definitions, I'm talking man on the street.

It's a complete distraction from the horror of these types of crimes to try and and pretend the real discussion should be about semantics per the legal distinction between "sexual assault" and "rape" than the act itself.

It's kind of disgusting actually.
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He won't acknowledge that because it takes away from his technical claim that Trump wasn't found liable of rape.
I don't know why you guys just can't seem to accept reality. So here's just one more example of the semantics, man on the street, or whatever. Remember when stehanopilis referred to trump "raping Carroll....well ABC didn't seem to think it was just semantics...


"The lawsuit, which was settled for $15 million, stemmed from a March 2024 interview where anchor George Stephanopoulos repeatedly and inaccurately stated that Trump had been "found liable for rape" in the E. Jean Carroll civil case. In reality, a jury had found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation, but not rape.
As part of the settlement, ABC News agreed to:
  • Transfer $15 million to a fund designated for Trump’s future presidential library.
  • Pay $1 million in legal fees directly to Trump’s lawyers.
  • Append an editor's note to the online article regarding the interview, expressing regret for the statements made"
So, as I posted, trump might well be guilty/liable for rape, but not in the E Jean Carroll case...or at least ABC was willing to pay $15 million to "regret the statements made" concerning Trump being "Liable for rape"

so recapping, a jury REJECTED Carrolls claim of rape and ABC paid $16 million to trump's library regretting it's statements made reading trump being Liable for rape....but you guys, who have only peripheral knowledge of the issue, know it was rape...

Like I posted before, you want to refer to trump as a rapist, knock yourselves out. But it wouldn't hurt your case just to be accurate and refer to him as a sexual abuser, as that was what the jury held.
 

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I don't know why you guys just can't seem to accept reality. So here's just one more example of the semantics, man on the street, or whatever. Remember when stehanopilis referred to trump "raping Carroll....well ABC didn't seem to think it was just semantics...


"The lawsuit, which was settled for $15 million, stemmed from a March 2024 interview where anchor George Stephanopoulos repeatedly and inaccurately stated that Trump had been "found liable for rape" in the E. Jean Carroll civil case. In reality, a jury had found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation, but not rape.
As part of the settlement, ABC News agreed to:
  • Transfer $15 million to a fund designated for Trump’s future presidential library.
  • Pay $1 million in legal fees directly to Trump’s lawyers.
  • Append an editor's note to the online article regarding the interview, expressing regret for the statements made"
So, as I posted, trump might well be guilty/liable for rape, but not in the E Jean Carroll case...or at least ABC was willing to pay $15 million to "regret the statements made" concerning Trump being "Liable for rape"

so recapping, a jury REJECTED Carrolls claim of rape and ABC paid $16 million to trump's library regretting it's statements made reading trump being Liable for rape....but you guys, who have only peripheral knowledge of the issue, know it was rape...

Like I posted before, you want to refer to trump as a rapist, knock yourselves out. But it wouldn't hurt your case just to be accurate and refer to him as a sexual abuser, as that was what the jury held.
I have stated he was adjudicated as a sexual abuser. What you refuse to admit is that he would've been adjudicated as a rapist in most states other than New York because his actions fit the federal definition of rape. Yes, everyone else and I know, the case was heard in New York. That does not change the validity of my second sentence.
 

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You haven't won sh&t. You're nothing but a drama queen, beta. You're on here all day and night. You're entire pathetic life revolves around Trump. The only authoritarian is you. Mr. You don't belong here. Little guppy, you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper sack.
At your age you couldn't either. 🤣.
 
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