NCAA Denies Brendan Sorsby Appeal for Reinstatement

Doctor Worm

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Sorsby's college career is done. He will likely file for the NFL supplemental draft. Will be interesting to see if anyone gambles a first round selection on him.

EDIT: May have spoken too soon. Sorsby is filing for an injunction against the NCAA which will be heard on June 1.
 
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MADHAT1

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Sorsby's college career should be over, but the way things are today , I'd "bet" he's TT's 2026 starting QB .
The system, the NCAA uses, was flawed before, now it's broken and no one knows what will happen, except the NCAA will prove inept
 
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Sorsby's college career should be over, but the way things are today , I'd "bet" he's TT's 2026 starting QB .
The system, the NCAA uses, was flawed before, now it's broken and no one knows what will happen, except the NCAA will prove inept
I bet he bets on it too…😎
 
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Considering he bet on his own team, while at Indiana, and placed bets on college football in general, the NCAA has a strong case. This isn't similar to the NIL cases its lost.
 

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That did not take long…bing bang cured?
The statement issued by the school went into more detail about what would be done to support him, including software on his phone to block betting apps, periodic checks of his phone, etc.

This is all well and good but the guy will be on an NFL roster in the fall. Don't see the NCAA losing this case.
 

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Anti discrimination laws still exist?
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It looks like their legal argument is that Sorsby has been clinically diagnosed with a mental disorder which is being treated. He is therefore protected under anti-discrimination regs.
Oh please. Then WVU should be required to rehire Bob Huggins due to alcoholism? Please. He chose to bet on his own team. There are countless other bets he could’ve made - that one was cheating because he had the ability to influence the outcome. There should absolutely be a consequence.
 
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Knight Shift

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Is there a betting prevention pill he can take?
GLP-1's!!!! The magic elixir to lose weight is being found "useful" to inhibit all sorts of behavior--including having sex. So, if GLP-1's can kill the desire to eat and have sex, it seems it may be able to destroy all wants and desires!!!!

“I really started to discover that I was really not having the same amount of pleasure or seeking the same amount of pleasure in some of the activities that I once enjoyed,”

“A lot of the things that I used to really get excited about, I was no longer seeking out.”



It’s unexplored and anecdotal in the context of GLP-1 drugs, but some patients report a general decrease in interest, pleasure and excitement in activities they previously enjoyed like eating out or socializing, he noted.

The medicines work by targeting receptors in the brain and body, including the hunger and reward centers, so food tastes less delicious, leading to weight loss. But when interest in food suddenly changes, life can feel different since food is deeply tied to emotion, comfort, celebration, stress relief and social connection, the doctor noted.

His first “big red flag” was baseball. He’d always been an avid fan of the sport, especially the Chicago Cubs, but noticed he hadn’t been following it at all while on the drug.


Holy smokes, a cure for Mets fans and fans of Rutgers sports!!!!



On top of that, early research suggests that GLP-1s may affect certain serotonin receptors, including one called 5-HT2C. This is thought to be a key player in the sexual side effects often experienced by those taking selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), such as reduced libido and delayed orgasm.
 

Doctor Worm

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It looks like their legal argument is that Sorsby has been clinically diagnosed with a mental disorder which is being treated. He is therefore protected under anti-discrimination regs.
TBH I don't know why this post attracted so much attention. Seems obvious that this would be the legal defense. What else have they got?
 
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Knight Shift

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TBH I don't know why this post attracted so much attention. Seems obvious that this would be the legal defense. What else have they got?
That will be the angle.
There is a fine line between self-accountability/admitting fault and some lame excuse that it is somebody else's fault or a mental health issue. Skilled lawyers will exploit the latter two to the exclusion of the former.
 

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GLP-1's!!!! The magic elixir to lose weight is being found "useful" to inhibit all sorts of behavior--including having sex. So, if GLP-1's can kill the desire to eat and have sex, it seems it may be able to destroy all wants and desires!!!!

“I really started to discover that I was really not having the same amount of pleasure or seeking the same amount of pleasure in some of the activities that I once enjoyed,”

“A lot of the things that I used to really get excited about, I was no longer seeking out.”



It’s unexplored and anecdotal in the context of GLP-1 drugs, but some patients report a general decrease in interest, pleasure and excitement in activities they previously enjoyed like eating out or socializing, he noted.

The medicines work by targeting receptors in the brain and body, including the hunger and reward centers, so food tastes less delicious, leading to weight loss. But when interest in food suddenly changes, life can feel different since food is deeply tied to emotion, comfort, celebration, stress relief and social connection, the doctor noted.

His first “big red flag” was baseball. He’d always been an avid fan of the sport, especially the Chicago Cubs, but noticed he hadn’t been following it at all while on the drug.


Holy smokes, a cure for Mets fans and fans of Rutgers sports!!!!



On top of that, early research suggests that GLP-1s may affect certain serotonin receptors, including one called 5-HT2C. This is thought to be a key player in the sexual side effects often experienced by those taking selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), such as reduced libido and delayed orgasm.
There's always a catch.
 

Knight Shift

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There's always a catch.
As always, there is a song that captures the moment, this time, courtesy of Howard Jones:

You're the fastest runner, but you're not allowed to win
Some break the rules and live to count the cost
The insecurity is the thing that won't get lost

....
Doctor says you're cured, but you still feel the pain
Aspirations in the clouds but your hopes go down the drain

And you want her, and she wants you
We want everyone
And you want her, and she wants you
No one, no one, no one ever is to blame
No one ever is to blame
No one ever is to blame
 

MADHAT1

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I won't bet on a sure NCAA win in this matter.
Sorsby's Lawyers are sure to bring these issues up ( below)that might be raised I found in a google search:
>The NCAA will start selling data from its championship events to sportsbooks around the country, part of an expanded partnership between the college sports governing body and Genius Sports.
The NCAA has a multi-year partnership with tech firm Genius Sports to supply and distribute official, real-time NCAA game data to regulated sportsbooks for live in-game betting.

That announcement came out four months after NCAA president Charlie Baker spoke at a Senate hearing in Washington, D.C., urging Congress to reign in sports betting..

The NCAA enforces strict rules prohibiting student-athletes, coaches, and athletic staff from engaging in sports betting at any level for sports that have NCAA championships. However, athletes are allowed to bet on professional sports, provided it is unrelated to their own sport and not with a prohibited or state-unregulated operator.

Collegiate ties to the gambling industry have evolved into lucrative naming rights agreements, official sponsorships, and marketing activations.
Casino Del Sol Stadium (University of Arizona): In November 2025, the Pascua Yaqui Tribe’s Casino Del Sol entered into a 20-year, $60 million naming rights partnership with the Arizona Wildcats. It is the home field for Arizona football

Syracuse University: The Orange maintain a long-standing corporate partnership with the Turning Stone Resort and Casino. The resort and casino serves as an official partner, historically holding a major advertising and promotional presence at the JMA Wireless Dome (formerly the Carrier Dome) and various other athletic funds

University of Colorado: In 2020, the Buffaloes made headlines by signing a landmark sponsorship agreement with PointsBet. The deal brought betting integrations to Folsom Field and the CU Events Center, paving the way for similar collegiate marketing deals

LSU (Louisiana State University): LSU previously held a heavily publicized promotional agreement with Caesars Sportsbook that authorized marketing and advertising inside Tiger Stadium. While the university later terminated this specific advertising deal, ties and marketing exposures to the gambling industry have occurred at various state events hosted in their vicinity

Also several other prominent university-sportsbook partnerships—most notably the University of Maryland’s arena and stadium deal with PointsBet and Michigan State University’s deal with Caesars Sportsbook—were terminated prematurely amid rising criticism and integrity controversies across college sports<

( just because those deals were ended, the lawyers will point them out as NCAA schools willingness to profit from ties to gambling and claim Sorsby is a victim the NCAA helped create.)
 
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-RUFAN4LIFE-

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I won't bet on a sure NCAA win in this matter.
Sorsby's Lawyers are sure to bring these issues up ( below)that might be raised I found in a google search:
>The NCAA will start selling data from its championship events to sportsbooks around the country, part of an expanded partnership between the college sports governing body and Genius Sports.
The NCAA has a multi-year partnership with tech firm Genius Sports to supply and distribute official, real-time NCAA game data to regulated sportsbooks for live in-game betting.

That announcement came out four months after NCAA president Charlie Baker spoke at a Senate hearing in Washington, D.C., urging Congress to reign in sports betting..

The NCAA enforces strict rules prohibiting student-athletes, coaches, and athletic staff from engaging in sports betting at any level for sports that have NCAA championships. However, athletes are allowed to bet on professional sports, provided it is unrelated to their own sport and not with a prohibited or state-unregulated operator.

Collegiate ties to the gambling industry have evolved into lucrative naming rights agreements, official sponsorships, and marketing activations.
Casino Del Sol Stadium (University of Arizona): In November 2025, the Pascua Yaqui Tribe’s Casino Del Sol entered into a 20-year, $60 million naming rights partnership with the Arizona Wildcats. It is the home field for Arizona football

Syracuse University: The Orange maintain a long-standing corporate partnership with the Turning Stone Resort and Casino. The resort and casino serves as an official partner, historically holding a major advertising and promotional presence at the JMA Wireless Dome (formerly the Carrier Dome) and various other athletic funds

University of Colorado: In 2020, the Buffaloes made headlines by signing a landmark sponsorship agreement with PointsBet. The deal brought betting integrations to Folsom Field and the CU Events Center, paving the way for similar collegiate marketing deals

LSU (Louisiana State University): LSU previously held a heavily publicized promotional agreement with Caesars Sportsbook that authorized marketing and advertising inside Tiger Stadium. While the university later terminated this specific advertising deal, ties and marketing exposures to the gambling industry have occurred at various state events hosted in their vicinity

Also several other prominent university-sportsbook partnerships—most notably the University of Maryland’s arena and stadium deal with PointsBet and Michigan State University’s deal with Caesars Sportsbook—were terminated prematurely amid rising criticism and integrity controversies across college sports<

( just because those deals were ended, the lawyers will point them out as NCAA schools willingness to profit from ties to gambling and claim Sorsby is a victim the NCAA helped create.)
Not necessarily relevant to the main point of contention, he bet on his own team and other football games.

Every sports league has rules against betting on games and fixing games.

- Look no further than Pete Rose being banned for life from baseball.
- Professional football leagues in Europe. 10-12+ month bans have been handed to players for betting on matches. Many of those leagues/teams have sports betting sponsorships on their jerseys or around their stadiums.
- College basketball has had several point shaving scandals that have resulted in player punishments.

So having relationships with sports betting outfits or casinos isn't enough. His lawyers need to prove how his case is totally different than other examples where players have been punished.
 
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Not necessarily relevant to the main point of contention, he bet on his own team and other football games.

Every sports league has rules against betting on games and fixing games.

- Look no further than Pete Rose being banned for life from baseball.
- Professional football leagues in Europe. 10-12+ month bans have been handed to players for betting on matches. Many of those leagues/teams have sports betting sponsorships on their jerseys or around their stadiums.
- College basketball has had several point shaving scandals that have resulted in player punishments.

So having relationships with sports betting outfits or casinos isn't enough. His lawyers need to prove how his case is totally different than other examples where players have been punished.
Read above. The clinical diagnosis. I believe it was U Georgia that once sued to admit a star athlete who didn’t meet NCAA grade / test score minimums on the basis of him being diagnosed with a learning disability.

When it comes to athletics universities have no shame. If Soresby were the RU QB the university would pursue eligibility with the same argument.
 

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Read above. The clinical diagnosis. I believe it was U Georgia that once sued to admit a star athlete who didn’t meet NCAA grade / test score minimums on the basis of him being diagnosed with a learning disability.

When it comes to athletics universities have no shame. If Soresby were the RU QB the university would pursue eligibility with the same argument.
You're talking about a life long issue (learning disability) versus an issue that was not there with the original bets on his own team while he was at Indiana. The gambling addiction developed much later on. Otherwise everyone's an alcoholic with their first drink.
 

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You're talking about a life long issue (learning disability) versus an issue that was not there with the original bets on his own team while he was at Indiana. The gambling addiction developed much later on. Otherwise everyone's an alcoholic with their first drink.
A putz who spends his entire existence on this board ripping on the head coach is now purportedly defending Sorsby?
 
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You're talking about a life long issue (learning disability) versus an issue that was not there with the original bets on his own team while he was at Indiana. The gambling addiction developed much later on. Otherwise everyone's an alcoholic with their first drink.

Your looking at wrong.

If you get diagnosed with a learning disability in 7th grade - does that mean you didn't have the disability in 3rd grade?

I would guess if you asked about alcoholic if they were an alcoholic they would say "I was one my whole life. Even though I didnt acknowledge it."

Its not "everyone's an alcoholic with their first drink".
Its "It was always there for me since my first drink".

Note - I couldn't care less of him having eligibility. Just looking at the arguments.
 
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Your looking at wrong.

If you get diagnosed with a learning disability in 7th grade - does that mean you didn't have the disability in 3rd grade?

I would guess if you asked about alcoholic if they were an alcoholic they would say "I was one my whole life. Even though I didnt acknowledge it."

Its not "everyone's an alcoholic with their first drink".
Its "It was always there for me since my first drink".

Note - I couldn't care less of him having eligibility. Just looking at the arguments.


See Webster's on Alcoholism: : continued excessive or compulsive use of alcoholic drinks

CONTINUED EXCESSIVE USE.

I have a fair amount of experience with alcoholism. Best decision I made in my life was to never consume alcohol when I turned 17. For others I know, it did not work out so well.
 

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I love that the standard play is to go to rehab whenever there is an issue so you can hide under the guise of "mental issue".

Gambling addiction when caught betting
Sex addiction therapy for affairs
Drug Addiction when you test hot
etc etc

Say something dumb? Go to sensitivity training to "learn more about xxx culture". Good stuff from the PR machines out there.
 
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See Webster's on Alcoholism: : continued excessive or compulsive use of alcoholic drinks

CONTINUED EXCESSIVE USE.

I have a fair amount of experience with alcoholism. Best decision I made in my life was to never consume alcohol when I turned 17. For others I know, it did not work out so well.
Agreed, addiction is from doing something repeatedly and excessively. A learning disability is usually there from birth or an early age regardless of when it’s diagnosed.
 

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A putz who spends his entire existence on this board ripping on the head coach is now purportedly defending Sorsby?
Am not defending him at all. He should be banned. And it was certainly a joke for Georgia to take that approach for an athlete when regular student with a learning disability would never get in.

A chap who eloquently uses the $50 dollar word ‘purportedly’ should have recognized Shelby was pointing out every school and fan base will fight for their own while finger pointing everywhere else (e.g. this fan base and university would be on Soresby’s side were he here).
 

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That will be the angle.
There is a fine line between self-accountability/admitting fault and some lame excuse that it is somebody else's fault or a mental health issue. Skilled lawyers will exploit the latter two to the exclusion of the former.
It doesn’t even come to that. Summary Judgement. If your an alcoholic and you run someone over while intoxicated that’s manslaughter. There’s no mental health argument that gets you out of that.
 

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Agreed, addiction is from doing something repeatedly and excessively. A learning disability is usually there from birth or an early age regardless of when it’s diagnosed.
Have not done the research, some say that addiction may be genetic (40-60% of the component. With GLP-1's being the rage right now for treating all sorts of compulsive reward behaviors overeating, alcohol, sex, etc., I was half-joking, half serious that many it could "cure" any addiction, including gambling.

Not sure I buy that, but not judging those who cannot control their compulsive behaviors that reward regions of the brain. However, somewhere along the line with Sorsby, one has to separate "right from wrong" and realize you don't bet on the team you are playing for.
 
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Have not done the research, some say that addiction may be genetic (40-60% of the component. With GLP-1's being the rage right now for treating all sorts of compulsive reward behaviors overeating, alcohol, sex, etc., I was half-joking, half serious that many it could "cure" any addiction, including gambling.

Not sure I buy that, but not judging those who cannot control their compulsive behaviors that reward regions of the brain. However, somewhere along the line with Sorsby, one has to separate "right from wrong" and realize you don't bet on the team you are playing for.

It’s pretty straightforward. Addictions may be mental health diseases but they do not excuse you from the consequences of breaking laws or established rules. The NCAA does not allow betting and it’s made clear to all athletes that the consequence of doing so is loss of privilege to play. Just as the law doesn’t allow you to kill someone so if your mental disease causes you to make a decision that results in this happening, you have to endure the consequence. It’s cut and dry and there’s very consistent precedent to shut it down immediately.