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B.s. is b.s.No one ever said that. They just said he was the greatest *college* wrestler of all time.
Askren mentioned in a recent show that somebody offered him quite a trove of film/videos of old wrestling matches. He took up the offer, and will be periodically posting them. I'm unlikely to link all of them, but will post those that I find interesting.
2018 tOSU vs PSU gets my vote. Hands down the best match I ever saw. That had to have been a long, quiet bus ride back to Columbus.
especially now that you can only deduct 90% of losses. now if you play 2 $10k hands of blackjack and win one and lose one, you have to pay tax on you $1k of "profit"
You and Shane are not wrong. I don't know if that match will ever be surpassed. The energy of the crowd during the third period of Nevills/Snyder could have launched a rocket into outer space. The Nickel pin of Martin at Nationals was a thunderbolt but the February match was a two hour series of thunderbolts.
I’ve been going to Rec Hall since 1966. I’ve seen the thick, the thin, and everything in between. The Red Robe dual of 2018 was the very tip top for excitement. The fact that we were the underdog adds to the remembrance. It was like a big iron block running about 500 rpm over the red line for 2 hours. You really can’t exaggerate how great that dual was.
There were many electrifying moments in that dual. Hard to pick a favorite, but in setting the tone, you can’t beat the first:
The Bucknuts thought they brought Hell with them on that fancy bus. If they did, Hell had its own ideas about what happened next.
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Makes me wonder how, if during the covid year, we had nationals Iowa might not have won , theoretically.
Penn State would have won if the tournament had been wrestled.
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I wouldn’t put it past us. We had them in the dual if Hall hadn’t gotten over amped and gassed against Kemerer.
They gapped us pretty handily at Big 10s, but that was to be expected as that compressed tournament hurts top heavy teams - which we most assuredly were. But our high placers were still going to place high at NCAAs while their more solid team across the board would see their 3rd/4th place winners at Big 10s scoring 10-12 points there scoring 2-3 pts as round of 12 guys at Nationals.
Their comparatively better team in 2021 only beat us by 15.5 and that would have shrunk more if the Ivies had participated
I think you guys not having Cassar would have doomed you.
Obviously, would have been close as you guys always do better at NCAAs
Me: Bracket nerd
PSU
5 AAs
RBY
Nick Lee
Cenzo
Hall
Brooks
4 finalists
Lee
Cenzo
Hall
Brooks
RBY - 3rd (don’t think he was ready to beat Seabass)
Iowa
7 AAs
Spencer
Desanto
Lugo
Marinelli
Kemdawg
Warner
Cass
4 finalists
Spencer
Lugo
Marinelli (no. I don’t feel comfortable about this one)
Kemdawg
Not sure how you guys could have won that year. Would have been fun though.
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We wouldn't have won so much as iowa would have lost it lol i kid i kid
On 13th look… this is one of the greatest big ten brackets of all time.
9 #1 seeds and all 10 matches wrestled in the finals.
I did tbe math once. Off the top of my head it was something like a 3-5% chance of PSU winning.
Marinelli as a finalist? This is my point. For Iowa to win that year Iowa was counting on their guys to achieve at levels Iowa wrestlers don't achieve at, and counting on PSU wrestlers to not do what they commonly do, achieve at higher levels than anticipated.
Iowa probably has 2 finalists and 6 AAs. PSU probably has the 4 finalists and 6 AAs.
That 3-5% chance isn't too bad when some previous stats of yours showed Davis had a 98% chance to AA the year he was the #1 seed at the NCAA tournament, but didn't AA : )
You already listed 5, I would add Rasheed. I don't know if he was healthy enough to get it done, but at the Big10s he was good enough to beat Warner in the QFs and lost to Shultz by a point in the SFs.
I think Rasheed fully expected to win the title. It would not have shocked me if he succeeded. James English also expected to win the title, and he came pretty close, relatively speaking.
It was worse than that. Prior to wrestling he had a 99% chance. He single handedly brought the odds down a percent.
Of course, the only other wrestler of the era to perform that feat also just happened to be a #1 seed in 2020 for Iowa, so......
Which team continues to make theoretical claims for the 21 championship?
But you're cherry picking 1 outlier. Penn State's 3-5% chance comes from a combination of most, if not all, Iowa wrestlers severely underperforming and the reverse for Penn State. It was certainly possible but would've been an incredible upset that we unfortunately didn't get to see.
Marinelli didn't even AA in 2021 when Iowa won.
Nah. The Lloyd GIF is for when we do NOT believe. The better GIF, for when we DO believe, is:Obligatory gif:
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He made 1 semi final and AAed that year, but this single band camp year he was going to get it done. Yeah, paraphrasing Tom Ryan - not how the Hawks handle things.
Not condoning the ko, but I always tell my kids to not seek attention because you might not get the kind of attention you want.
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Curious how you would've handled the end of this. Would you have immediately got in between the wrestlers after seeing the double-handed face mush? Seems like this could have been prevented in time.
When I saw that my first thought prior to the punch was why act like an ******* with the face mush. The kid obviously overreacted but can’t feel sorry for the kid getting knocked out.
I'd like to think that I'd be proactive, and get between the wrestlers.
In truth, I have no idea how I would have handled this. Face mushes can be really tough to anticipate. I've have matches where both wrestlers were behaving quite normally, and there was absolutely no reason to expect a mush. And yet, at the end of the match (or end of whatever the situation), an unexpected face mush takes place. Face mushes usually take me by surprise, so my reaction to them is usually kind of slow. Plus, if they take place at the end of the match, the ref is usually taking a quick look at the score (if it's a close match) to make sure they know who won, and also signaling the stoppage of the match, and then awarding points if they were being held (and possibly checking potentially PD situations, or in or out when on the boundary; lots of other possibilities). In short, there are several things the ref is, or might be, addressing at the end of the match that do make it tough to handle situations like in the video.
I know if you showed this sequence at a refs chapter meeting to see how they'd react, a lot of refs would want to see the entire match, so that they'd have a better sense of what the temperament of the wrestlers was before that time. The video that Mineo posted really doesn't provide that info.