Daily Collegian Article On Starrocci Allegations

[OldAndInTheWay]

I think people that have had concussions need to understand the anatomy of the skull. It is comprised of a series of bones and all of them should move (opening and closing) according to the rhythmic rise and fall of the spinal fluid. The bones never stay still, just ask a brain surgeon if that is true. All those bones should move in a synchronistic pattern. As an example, the parietal bones at the top of the skull should be opening at the same time that the frontal bone is opening. When a person has a concussion all of these bones can get jammed together and the opening and closing phases can either be eliminated or function opposite of what they should be doing. A trained therapist can find this this dissynchronization and then gently and almost imperceptibly manipulate these bones back into their synchronization. This is called cranial sacral therapy. Every single concussion can be helped with the trained application of this therapy.

 

[El_Jefe]

In college, I was playing pickup tackle football with friends. No pads or helmets or anything. I dove to catch a pass and my head collided with the defender’s leg. He ended up on crutches for weeks. I was knocked out and when I came to, one of my buddies was sitting on me and everyone else was huddled around me crying. “I thought we lost you, man” was the first thing I remember hearing anyone say to me. Ambulance soon arrived, in which I vomited violently. The dude sitting on me was doing so to prevent my unconscious flailing from hurting myself. I was also foaming at the mouth, I later learned. I often wonder how much how this experience has affected me permanently.

10/10 description of White Claw effects.

 

[dicemen99]

I think people that have had concussions need to understand the anatomy of the skull. It is comprised of a series of bones and all of them should move (opening and closing) according to the rhythmic rise and fall of the spinal fluid. The bones never stay still, just ask a brain surgeon if that is true. All those bones should move in a synchronistic pattern. As an example, the parietal bones at the top of the skull should be opening at the same time that the frontal bone is opening. When a person has a concussion all of these bones can get jammed together and the opening and closing phases can either be eliminated or function opposite of what they should be doing. A trained therapist can find this this dissynchronization and then gently and almost imperceptibly manipulate these bones back into their synchronization. This is called cranial sacral therapy. Every single concussion can be helped with the trained application of this therapy.

The placebo effect is a real thing.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

The placebo effect is a real thing.

CST sounds like quackery to me. Also, his comment almost minimizes the trauma of what a concussion is.

"For musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis suggested that CST produces no statistically significant or clinically relevant changes in pain and/or disability/impact in patients with headache disorders, neck pain, low back pain, pelvic girdle pain, or fibromyalgia. For non-musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis showed that CST was not effective for managing infant colic, preterm infants, cerebral palsy, or visual function deficits. Conclusions: The qualitative and quantitative synthesis of the evidence suggest that CST produces no benefits in any of the musculoskeletal or non-musculoskeletal conditions assessed. Two RCTs suggested statistically significant benefits of CST in children. However, both studies are seriously flawed, and their findings are thus likely to be false positive."

Is Craniosacral Therapy Effective? A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis - PMC

Objectives: The aim of this study was to evaluate the clinical effectiveness of craniosacral therapy (CST) in the management of any conditions. Methods: Two independent reviewers searched the PubMed, Physiotherapy Evidence Database, Cochrane ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[SleepyLion]

In college, I was playing pickup tackle football with friends. No pads or helmets or anything. I dove to catch a pass and my head collided with the defender’s leg. He ended up on crutches for weeks. I was knocked out and when I came to, one of my buddies was sitting on me and everyone else was huddled around me crying. “I thought we lost you, man” was the first thing I remember hearing anyone say to me. Ambulance soon arrived, in which I vomited violently. The dude sitting on me was doing so to prevent my unconscious flailing from hurting myself. I was also foaming at the mouth, I later learned. I often wonder how much how this experience has affected me permanently.

I wish I had an excuse like that after I lost a chess game.

 

[Locopsu]

In college, I was playing pickup tackle football with friends. No pads or helmets or anything. I dove to catch a pass and my head collided with the defender’s leg. He ended up on crutches for weeks. I was knocked out and when I came to, one of my buddies was sitting on me and everyone else was huddled around me crying. “I thought we lost you, man” was the first thing I remember hearing anyone say to me. Ambulance soon arrived, in which I vomited violently. The dude sitting on me was doing so to prevent my unconscious flailing from hurting myself. I was also foaming at the mouth, I later learned. I often wonder how much how this experience has affected me permanently.

Not sure if concussed, I was warming up for a softball game in Fairmount Park, in early 1990’s. I saw dark clouds and lightning over city and said let’s go in. I awoke in hospital, and later learned I could not walk, my legs were numb from waist down, no recollection of any of the time from strike to waking up in hospital. I had a concussion but not severe, I landed on my shoulder and had a couple stitches where my glasses cut my face. A week later I lost use of my right arm, which took a year plus to fully recover. Shoulder was in intense paid, no meds. First good sleep I had was in MRI of arm and shoulder. Learned to sleep on back with pillows to prevent rolling. I’ve tried using it as an excuse but no one buys it.

 

[dicemen99]

CST sounds like quackery to me. Also, his comment almost minimizes the trauma of what a concussion is.

"For musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis suggested that CST produces no statistically significant or clinically relevant changes in pain and/or disability/impact in patients with headache disorders, neck pain, low back pain, pelvic girdle pain, or fibromyalgia. For non-musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis showed that CST was not effective for managing infant colic, preterm infants, cerebral palsy, or visual function deficits. Conclusions: The qualitative and quantitative synthesis of the evidence suggest that CST produces no benefits in any of the musculoskeletal or non-musculoskeletal conditions assessed. Two RCTs suggested statistically significant benefits of CST in children. However, both studies are seriously flawed, and their findings are thus likely to be false positive."

Is Craniosacral Therapy Effective? A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis - PMC

Objectives: The aim of this study was to evaluate the clinical effectiveness of craniosacral therapy (CST) in the management of any conditions. Methods: Two independent reviewers searched the PubMed, Physiotherapy Evidence Database, Cochrane ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Agreed. I can give you two (sugar) pills that will cure some concussion symptoms for some people as well. As well as the symptoms of a myriad of other ailments.

 

[OldAndInTheWay]

The placebo effect is a real thing.

I always try to be careful not to criticize something I know nothing about because it makes me look stupid. How about you?

 

[OldAndInTheWay]

CST sounds like quackery to me. Also, his comment almost minimizes the trauma of what a concussion is.

"For musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis suggested that CST produces no statistically significant or clinically relevant changes in pain and/or disability/impact in patients with headache disorders, neck pain, low back pain, pelvic girdle pain, or fibromyalgia. For non-musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis showed that CST was not effective for managing infant colic, preterm infants, cerebral palsy, or visual function deficits. Conclusions: The qualitative and quantitative synthesis of the evidence suggest that CST produces no benefits in any of the musculoskeletal or non-musculoskeletal conditions assessed. Two RCTs suggested statistically significant benefits of CST in children. However, both studies are seriously flawed, and their findings are thus likely to be false positive."

Is Craniosacral Therapy Effective? A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis - PMC

Objectives: The aim of this study was to evaluate the clinical effectiveness of craniosacral therapy (CST) in the management of any conditions. Methods: Two independent reviewers searched the PubMed, Physiotherapy Evidence Database, Cochrane ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Your uninformed response seems to show the limit of relying on AI searches for valid information. I, on the other hand, have literally thousands of hours of cranial sacral therapy experiences with classroom study, research, teaching, practice, and completing treatments on hundreds of individuals. I have seen miraculous changes with concussions, migraines, TMJ, tinnitus, and all types brain/skull problems with the use an application of cranial sacral treatments.

 

[OldAndInTheWay]

Agreed. I can give you two (sugar) pills that will cure some concussion symptoms for some people as well. As well as the symptoms of a myriad of other ailments.

Absolutely the placebo effect is real. But that does not in any way mean that cranial sacral therapy itself is not valid or effective.

 

[Coastal2]

I guess the people at the Dave and Buster's ticket counter qualify as doctors now.

 

[nerfstate]

Wanna know someone that is highly trained in CST? Dan Monthley.

 

[OldAndInTheWay]

Wanna know someone that is highly trained in CST? Dan Monthley.

It is good to know that. I'm anxious to see how many Keyboard Warriors here will now call CST or Dan Monthley a quack.

 

[Cali_Nittany1]

I don't know enough to be on either side of this issue but Mr. Myagi immediately came to mind.

 

[El_Jefe]

It is good to know that. I'm anxious to see how many Keyboard Warriors here will now call CST or Dan Monthley a quack.

You're a Brady Berge behind on that question.

 

[watoos]

Want to know all about how the placebo effect cured many people?
Read Mind over Medicine, a book written by a doctor, Lissa Rankin.

 

[dicemen99]

I always try to be careful not to criticize something I know nothing about because it makes me look stupid. How about you?

If you can explain to me how it is any different from massage therapy for your head than maybe I’ll be less stupid.

I have back issues. I get massages, tens, and even acupuncture to help relieve pain, but I’m not under any illusion that any are going to fix my neck/back.

 

[dicemen99]

Want to know all about how the placebo effect cured many people?
Read Mind over Medicine, a book written by a doctor, Lissa Rankin.

I don’t dispute that in the least. In fact, I’m the one who brought it up.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Your uninformed response seems to show the limit of relying on AI searches for valid information. I, on the other hand, have literally thousands of hours of cranial sacral therapy experiences with classroom study, research, teaching, practice, and completing treatments on hundreds of individuals. I have seen miraculous changes with concussions, migraines, TMJ, tinnitus, and all types brain/skull problems with the use an application of cranial sacral treatments.

No, I didn't use AI, hah. Sorry man, if you look at the literature and all accepted expertise, this slots right into the pseudoscience wing of the world. /shrug

 

[OldAndInTheWay]

If you can explain to me how it is any different from massage therapy for your head than maybe I’ll be less stupid.

I have back issues. I get massages, tens, and even acupuncture to help relieve pain, but I’m not under any illusion that any are going to fix my neck/back.

Massage therapy and CST are as different as night and day. I'll try to be as brief as I can in explaining the principles of CST. The spinal fluid is produced in the ventricles of the brain, bathes the bones of the cranium and the entire spine, and eventually is absorbed along the spinal nerves of each vertebrate. Leonardo da Vinci was the first to discover this. Think of the spinal fluid as like a water pump in a well. If you open the water spigot the water pressure in the pipes will gradually decrease. When it decreases to a certain level the pump kicks on and gradually increases the water pressure to an upper level, and then the pump shuts off and the water pressure starts to decrease. Then the cycle is repeated. That water pump cycle is similar to the ebb and flow of the spinal fluid. Generally speaking, the healthier and more fit you are the stronger is the pressure of your spinal fluid and the longer is the length of your cycle. When this spinal fluid pressure is increasing the bones in the skull and the vertebrae in the spine are opening. When the spinal fluid pressure is decreasing all of these bones are closing. The main 'boss' of all of this is the core located where we commonly call the baby's soft spot in the skull. In treatments for concussions as an example, every bone and structure must be manipulated to synchronize it's movement to this core. A good cranial sacral therapist can gently place his hands on the skull and feel which way the bones are moving. As an example, are the parietal bones moving opposite to one another, are the parietal bones moving in synchronization with the frontal bone, are they moving in synchronization with the core? All of these bones and movements are incredibly complex and it is made even more difficult to feel or palpate what every structure is doing. The therapist can only use between 1/10 and 2/10 of an ounce of pressure or they will be unable to feel what is happening. I used to practice putting my hands on a digital scale so I could understand what the difference was between 1/10 of a pound and 2/10 of an ounce of pressure.

Massage therapy works with many pounds of pressure. And generally speaking the massage therapist imposes their will on a persons soft tissue. Contrast the cranial sacral therapist is in observer first. What are all of these bones and structures doing is the first thing that they must find out?

As regards your physical problems, all soft tissue, which is muscles ligaments fascia etc are attached to bones. If these bones are not moving properly or moving in synchronization to the Core then that soft tissue has great difficulty healing or achieving balance. Unless you have had a traumatic car accident or have fallen off a roof or have a deformed leg or some other kind of trauma, then you can just be classified as out of balance and that can be fixed for 90% of the people. What I always did in my practice when I had a particularly difficult problem like you describe, was first do all the cranial sacral work, then chiropractically adjust the vertebrae that need to be adjusted, and then do the soft tissue work. Often I never had to do the last step because the soft tissue released with the cranial sacral and Chiropractic work. Philosophically, the soft tissue is a mere slave to what is happening to the bony structure it's attached to.

I hope all of this was of help to you. I don't know where you live but if it's in a large enough area there are probably a few cranial sacral therapists practicing. Because it takes many years and thousands of hours of dedicated discipline to become competent what I would strongly suggest doing is calling those therapists on the phone and ask who they go to when they have problems. It would be inevitable that a certain name would pop up. That's who you call for an appointment.

 

[AgSurfer]

Yesterday, he posted a 4 part video on instagram. I don't have instagram, but my son showed it to me. Even if I had instagram, I would not have reposted this one. He has moved from delusional and paranoid into someone that needs IMMEDIATE intervention for the safety of himself and others. He names a current psu wrestler that he claims introduced him to Satanism while at psu. He then goes on to mention his desire to commit specific EXTREMELY gross and criminal acts, and claims he needed an exorcism to remove the desire. After I watched it, I thought to myself "Should I notify the police?". Perhaps, I should have, I don't know. It would not surprise me if multiple people contacted the police after viewing the video. It is is very sad and disturbing and he is an individual that needs serious mental help. ( Also, he recorded the video while driving a car which is illegal and incredibly dangerous ).

I didn’t watch the video and don’t intend to do so. However, based on some of the input you guys have posted here, I’m wondering if McHenry is dealing with a severe case of schizophrenia. It sounds like he’s exhibiting very irrational behavior and has delusions about imagined events. If that’s the case, someone needs to intervene quickly before he harms either himself or others.

 

[Names are overrated blah blah blah]

You guys are completely ignorant of how effective homeopathy is at curing concussions. I have fixed many concussed athletes just by diluting a drop of fluid squeezed from a concussed brain in millions of gallons of water and then delivering a drop of this solution on the tip of the patients tongue.

 

[Sneedram55]

I wonder if it is time to edit the subject line of this thread?

 

[Piketownman]

You guys are completely ignorant of how effective homeopathy is at curing concussions. I have fixed many concussed athletes just by diluting a drop of fluid squeezed from a concussed brain in millions of gallons of water and then delivering a drop of this solution on the tip of the patients tongue.

Are you Dr Bombay from “Bewitched”?

 

[RockySmith]

I didn’t watch the video and don’t intend to do so. However, based on some of the input you guys have posted here, I’m wondering if McHenry is dealing with a severe case of schizophrenia. It sounds like he’s exhibiting very irrational behavior and has delusions about imagined events. If that’s the case, someone needs to intervene quickly before he harms either himself or others.

I did watch the video and it‘s unhinged. But, (with all due respect) I don’t think we should try to diagnose him from our couches, as much as we would like to try.

 

[Dogwelder]

The moon is made of cheese. Bleu variety, most likely.