Fran Frashilla throws a little shade at Zoom

TFCat11

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Well, if Nick Heintzman says it, it has to be so. Whoever in the hell Nick Heintzman is.

Fran Fraschilla isn't over-bright but even he knows that anyone who can afford an internet connection can claim to be a "draft analyst" and post generic, half-informed nonsense. That doesn't make them worth paying attention to. Fraschilla is just trolling Kentucky fans.
To be fair, what was UW’s record last season?

Sorry, but facts are facts, even when you blame an innocent scapegoat for sharing those facts.
 

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I'm going to wait and see for myself before I buy any Zoom or Franck hype from UK media. I saw they went 16-17 overall last year.....

Even with Momcilovic UK won't finish inside SEC top 5-6 and will likely have a record of 19-12 or 20-11.
 
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Even with Momcilovic UK won't finish inside SEC top 5-6 and will likely have a record of 19-12 or 20-11.
Yeah, I'm not sure I follow the logic of the fans who think that a guy the NBA wouldn't draft this year (otherwise, why would he come to UK) is going to be the difference maker. He seems like he'd be a solid addition, but he isn't going to come in here and turn this into an SEC contending roster. Some of our fans are just delusional.

Maybe this roster will be greater than the sun of its parts, but this is Kentucky. That isn't how we should be operating. Fans are trying to convince themselves that this Oakland A's moneyball diamond in the rough approach is going to work out.....

We're the ******* Yankees. We're the ******* Dodgers. We shouldnt be trying to talk ourselves into whether our roster can be competitive. Ever.
 

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I wish there were mods that would clean house here like their used to be
Why? Because someone shared a post. I guess you want to live in a society of censorship. The first step in fixing an issue is admitting there is a problem. Just because we sign someone, it does not immediately make him all sec.
 

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Even with Momcilovic UK won't finish inside SEC top 5-6 and will likely have a record of 19-12 or 20-11.
This is so inaccurate


If we get Moreno and Milan (which I don't think we will)

That is easily and objectively a Top 15 roster. Maybe Top 10

Zero chance you could list 15 rosters better than that
 
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Back in my day we sent our cast offs to Washington, not the other way around.

We may yet add a difference maker or two, but as it stands we have the least amount of talent I can remember since Pitino’s first season.
Didn't Pope come to UK from Washington too?
 
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Yeah, I'm not sure I follow the logic of the fans who think that a guy the NBA wouldn't draft this year (otherwise, why would he come to UK) is going to be the difference maker. He seems like he'd be a solid addition, but he isn't going to come in here and turn this into an SEC contending roster. Some of our fans are just delusional.

Maybe this roster will be greater than the sun of its parts, but this is Kentucky. That isn't how we should be operating. Fans are trying to convince themselves that this Oakland A's moneyball diamond in the rough approach is going to work out.....

We're the ******* Yankees. We're the ******* Dodgers. We shouldnt be trying to talk ourselves into whether our roster can be competitive. Ever.

If only we could be like the Yankees, who last won the World Series in 2009.
 

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This is so inaccurate


If we get Moreno and Milan (which I don't think we will)

That is easily and objectively a Top 15 roster. Maybe Top 10

Zero chance you could list 15 rosters better than that

Completely agree. I think without Momcilovic, we are still right at 5th/6th in the SEC. But he is definitely the missing piece and an addition of that caliber is more of an exponential add on the roster. He does something no one else does. As we added more players last year, the additions had more of a diminishing returns to them.
 

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Btw, we have all seen countless Yaxels, Tshiebwes, and others be non factors for the draft and be 1st team All Americans in college.
 
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Why? Because someone shared a post. I guess you want to live in a society of censorship. The first step in fixing an issue is admitting there is a problem. Just because we sign someone, it does not immediately make him all sec.

We have some many trolls here though posing as fans it is hard to tell.

Besides that, anyone calling Zoom terrible is simply stirring the pot because they onow that is not true. He may not be all SEC (remains to be seen) but he is far better that Lamont Butler & he worked out well.
 
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Padsfs07

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I guess you missed where I also said Dodgers, if you want to play that game. Try again.

You still said the Yankees as a team to emulate.

Also, the Dodgers went over 30 years without a World Series before buying them recently. (although I give them the 2020 WS) We should definitely try spending more than everyone, then we will we win it all.
 

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We have some many trolls here though posing as fans it is hard to tell.

Besides that, anyone calling Zoom terrible is simply stirring the pot because they onow that is not true. He may not be all SEC (remains to be seen) but he is far better that Lamont Butler & he worked out well.
Where did I say Zoom is terrible? Sack up and stop being soft. I bet you were a brown noser, tattletell, always kissing up to the teacher when you were a kid.
 

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Yeah, I'm not sure I follow the logic of the fans who think that a guy the NBA wouldn't draft this year (otherwise, why would he come to UK) is going to be the difference maker. He seems like he'd be a solid addition, but he isn't going to come in here and turn this into an SEC contending roster. Some of our fans are just delusional.

Maybe this roster will be greater than the sun of its parts, but this is Kentucky. That isn't how we should be operating. Fans are trying to convince themselves that this Oakland A's moneyball diamond in the rough approach is going to work out.....

We're the ******* Yankees. We're the ******* Dodgers. We shouldnt be trying to talk ourselves into whether our roster can be competitive. Ever.
Second round NBA draft picks are not college difference makers?
 

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We have some many trolls here though posing as fans it is hard to tell.

Besides that, anyone calling Zoom terrible is simply stirring the pot because they onow that is not true. He may not be all SEC (remains to be seen) but he is far better that Lamont Butler & he worked out well.

IF Zoom is better than Butler, we have ourselves a star PG. I doubt he is, but that would be awesome.
 

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OK... who else made a serious offer to him?
He signed a week after the portal opened. He may not be all sec but he would have been sought after if he hadn’t signed so quick.

He was the 8th ranked PG in the portal and no, I’m not saying hang a banner for that but come on, “nobody wanted him”. You have plenty of ammo to use with where things are right now, just stop with the negative hyperbole.
 
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Btw, we have all seen countless Yaxels, Tshiebwes, and others be non factors for the draft and be 1st team All Americans in college.
Between the “I’m gonna post about how Pope sucks in every thread!” fans and the “if they aren’t an NBA lottery pick they won’t make a difference” fans this board has become absolute garbage.

And that doesn’t even take into account the 200+ accounts on my ignore list. Then again, the death of this forum is the goal so whatever.
 

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He signed a week after the portal opened. He may not be all sec but he would have been sought after if he hadn’t signed so quick.

He was the 8th ranked PG in the portal and no, I’m not saying hang a banner for that but come on, “nobody wanted him”. You have plenty of ammo to use with where things are right now, just stop with the negative hyperbole.
Fine, I'll give you that. Plenty of other battles to fight. Looks like it's really going to come down to next week to see if UK has a shot of avoiding a Wednesday SECT game.
 

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Dang, I always thought Fran Frashilla was a woman and that she retired years ago. Had no idea she transitioned
ohhhhh, you burned him real good with that one.

Still don't see why some of y'all pile on people when their opinion is anything other than 'said player is the greatest talent ever seen'. Thin skinned fanbase
 
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Go compare their numbers before UK. Yes, Zoom is better. See last post
“Before UK”, Butler was the starting point guard on an SDSU team that he guided to the national championship game, despite having no NBA draft picks on the roster. Before UK, Diallo was the point for a team with a losing record despite having a stud NBA lottery pick big man in his supporting cast.

Before UK, Butler had attained a reputation as perhaps the best on ball defensive guard …and one of the best leaders …in the entire country. Nobody, to my knowledge, has ever said such things about Diallo.

I haven’t seen enough of Diallo yet to know for sure. But if I had to choose between those two based upon what I know right now, I’m taking Butler …in a heartbeat.
 

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Zoom is the 6th ranked PG in the portal (according to ON3) the others ranked ahead of him are Shelstead (who there is an entire thread dedicated to Zoom vs him), Dedan Thomas (who many did not want due to injury history), and Markus Burnton (a 5’10 PG from ND that also had a season ending injury last season). I think we did just fine portal wise at the PG spot.
 
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He is taller, more athletic, & better offensively in every way than Butler. He is not the defender that Butler was, which was Butler's greatest strength when healthy.
I stand by my statement. If he is the baller Butler proved to be, we will really enjoy him.
 

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Zoom is the 6th ranked PG in the portal (according to ON3) the others ranked ahead of him are Shelstead (who there is an entire thread dedicated to Zoom vs him), Dedan Thomas (who many did not want due to injury history), and Markus Burnton (a 5’10 PG from ND that also had a season ending injury last season). I think we did just fine portal wise at the PG spot.
It's an indictment of the roster overall. Zoom with Stokes, a 4 like Freeman, a shooter like Momcilovic, and the rest of the cast we have now, is a good team and there aren't issues w/ him.

When you don't have any of that, a guy like Rob Wright and a few top HS guys (Holt, Collins, Crowe, Rippey, Kinney -- all guys we missed on) are needed for an acceptable blueblood roster.

This is UK basketball, not the make-a-wish foundation where mediocre and/or washed up players live their dream getting paid millions.