You won’t ever be one of them though.
All you do is”fake yankee” is *****, moan, and complain about everything like a *****.
You should really move to Minnesota where you could get those “free” tampons Tim Walz is giving out.
P****!
Trump needs to
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All you do is”fake yankee” is *****, moan, and complain about everything like a *****.
You should really move to Minnesota where you could get those “free” tampons Tim Walz is giving out.
P****!
Oh no, I'm so sorry for you. Did you not vote for this even though Kamala Harris literally said during a nationally televised debate that trump would start a war with Iran?
Your sudden concern for ALL the peoples of the world is very sincere, Ned.
Hopefully you realize Iran could be decimated with conventional weapons in a matter of hours.
The reason this has not happened is it would affect the good people of Iran.
The "Off Ramp" solution could be problematic.
If Trump walks away now, he can claim victory, and surely Iran has been badly hurt, but walking away leaves Iran in control of the Strait of Hormuz. Their oil will flow, and tankers from other producers will pay fees into Iran's till.
Iran didn't have a nuke before the war - and wasn't plausibly trying to build one. But while building one has been set back, what Iran has almost certainly learned is that they need a nuke. Even though it will take them longer, they are more likely to actually try to build nukes.
I blame Obama. Doesn't everyone?
Afghanistan population = 45 million
Iraq population = 48 million
Iran population = 93 million
Why do we expect a better outcome in Iran? I'm open to arguments, but I can't see it myself.
People are replaceable, and with AI we need fewer of them.
Oil is a finite resource.
Oh to be clear I expect a dramatically worse outcome if we take over Iran. I’m just saying we could do it.
If we did do it - well, that would cost many lives, trillions of dollars and 20 years from now, after we leave, we would hear “Iran is 2 weeks away from having a nuke”.
I am sorry your parents dropped you on your head as an infant and let you eat lead paint.
Ts and Ps.
To make it worse, Trump's ego will require him to get a better deal.
Or, I suppose, he could just lie about it.
Then why make a foolish statements claiming Iran has been obliterated?
The Strait of Hormuz says otherwise.
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Actually, I think we can wait out Iran. But does the US have the willpower?
The last I heard, Iran is taking tankers out of mothballs to use as floating storage tanks. That gives them some breathing space but their revenues are crippled.
At some point soon, Iran will have to start shutting down their fields - if they haven't already.
The storage tankers are said to be anchoring around Kharg Island. We could take Kharg Island. We could take those tankers. If we can clear the Strait, we could send those tankers to our friends (for a fee, of course).
There are people that blindly support this insane person?
Cult cult cult. And in charge of the one world superpower. How did the United States get to this crazy/sad situation?
Look over there! Trans!
That's the likely best outcome and one that people are hoping for.
Get back to the Obama deal and somehow let ShitStain claim victory.
I imagine before that happens China would step in to escort Iranian oil to Chinese refineries. I doubt even Trump is dumb enough to attack the Chinese navy over this.
Then again, he keeps finding new ways to be the dumbest president in the history of the United States.
The American public wouldn't like it, especially if American soldiers got killed.
Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan or Venezuela. The needed troops on the ground are way way way outside the capacity and will of the current United States of America.
We would have to go on a WW2 footing, and we have no real allies unless you want to count Israel. And they can't help with the boots on the ground.
According to IAEA reporting and multiple media summaries, Iran’s uranium stockpile enriched to 60% U-235 stands at approximately 440–461 kilograms. This enrichment level is significantly higher than civilian reactor levels (3–5%)
It would be a disaster significantly bigger than Vietnam. But it could be done.
That must be Team Trump's calculation. But it may be a miscalculation.
We are already using our Strategic Reserves. Europe and others are using theirs even faster.
If major producers like Iran, Iraq, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait... start shutting down their production fields and refineries, there will be nothing quick about oil flowing again.
Foreign nations holding US debt are already selling our paper at a loss to pay for higher energy costs. Driving up rates - because nobody wants our paper at face value.
We are making deals to subsidize UAE and, soon, others. Where does that money come from?
Bush let N.Korea get nukes. The world barely noticed.
We looked the other way (and some say helped) as Pakistan got nukes. Ho hum.
India (then a Soviet client state) got nukes. BFD.
Why should Iran having nukes be the end of the world order?
Gives soylent green a whole new meaning.
Id rather not fund a genocide. Thanks.
Don’t have to kill em. Just bomb their bridges and electricity plants. War ain’t pretty. Iran should have thought about that before running their yap.
sOILent green, if you will
Gas would be $7.00 on Election Day.
Can you imagine what GOP candidates are thinking now with $5.00 gas?
Yes, that made them closer to a nuke.
IIRC, Iran previously enriched to 5% for routine civilian purposes and to 20% for research and medical uses. No big deal. The JCPOA reduced that to 300kg of 3.67%, and Iran complied.
Then Trump pulled us out of the agreement. Iran continued to comply for over a year.
[below from Gemini]
According to international inspectors, the U.S. intelligence community, and the U.S. State Department itself, Iran complied with the official limits of the JCPOA until after the United States unilaterally withdrew from the deal in May 2018.
Iran did not immediately break the limits when President Trump pulled the U.S. out of the deal and reimposed economic sanctions. For roughly a year, Iran continued to observe the restrictions while attempting to negotiate with the remaining European signatories (Britain, France, and Germany) to secure economic relief.
It was not until July 2019—fourteen months after the U.S. withdrawal—that Iran began intentionally and publicly violating the caps on enrichment purity and stockpiles as a strategy to pressure the other nations for sanctions relief.
This is entirely Trump's fault!
LOL... I guess you missed the part where that already happened. NATO is nearly done. China is ascendant. The US is viewed with greater disfavor than Russia by many smaller countries. And it didn't even take him two years.
Denying people food, water, electricity and such, will kill them. It will also cause a mass evacuation which will cause the neighboring countries to either: Slaughter them, or take them in and be in a humanitarian crisis.
Are you going to pay to house the people who's home you've destroyed in this scenario?
Does any nation "run their yap" more than Trump?
By your logic, we deserve it even more.
Dang, you beat me. But missed renaming it with oil in it.
At least glad someone else got the reference.
Most of those things are widely considered war crimes or crimes against humanity. Except when we do it, of course. Or Israel.
What would that even look like? We have no "allies" on this issue. Why should anyone commit to helping us fix something we unilaterally destroyed? Under Iranian threat, this will require a full-time US presence not just on the water but on either side of the entire gulf.