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fatpiggy

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S--t or get off the pot on Iran. Enough with "the war is almost over, we've destroyed their aircraft and sunk their navy, they want to make a deal, etc"

The entire world is starting to really hurt due to fuel shortages.

Either do it or don't, stop just talking about it.

Probably didn’t want to stir up much drama while on the road to China for several reasons. This week could be pivotal.

100% agree though. It’s time. Send em to the Stone Age.
 

Sullivan

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S--t or get off the pot on Iran. Enough with "the war is almost over, we've destroyed their aircraft and sunk their navy, they want to make a deal, etc"

The entire world is starting to really hurt due to fuel shortages.

Either do it or don't, stop just talking about it.

Settle down Frances. Most of your higher fuel cost is going to other Americans. The D's generally support wealth distribution.
 

DFSNOLE_rivals

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Being the idiot he is, Trump took his cue from his buddy Putin in thinking this would be a quick and easy operation. That has been made obvious by the total lack of long-term planning and awareness. Now, more than usual, Trump's sole focus is finding a way to keep him from looking like a complete loser in this sh!tshow he started.
 

Huey Grey 2

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S--t or get off the pot on Iran. Enough with "the war is almost over, we've destroyed their aircraft and sunk their navy, they want to make a deal, etc"

The entire world is starting to really hurt due to fuel shortages.

Either do it or don't, stop just talking about it.
Sh t how? There is no sh tting. That's the reason why no other president was dumb enough to start a war like this.
 

fatpiggy

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Settle down Frances. Most of your higher fuel cost is going to other Americans. The D's generally support wealth distribution.
Meh, it's time to be concerned. If the last election proved anything, Americans want lower prices. The #1 issue last election was inflation and the economy. Gas prices are a large component of the inflation CPI index, and it hit's almost all Americans directly in the pocket (except EV drivers now).

Inflation is just a hidden tax. I think Trump can sell a temporary increase in inflation as a cost of preventing Iran from getting a Nuke. Americans will buy that for 1-2 months, but then they are going to want the cost of their gas down.

Trump is walking a tight rope here, if he doesn't get oil moving before late summer, mid terms will be a blood bath for repuiblicans.

On the flip side, if the war with Iran wraps up and oil starts flowing, you will see prices "tumble" (or come back down to pre-war prices) and Trump will really be able to sell "handling Iran" and getting gas prices "lower".
 

Flie_rivals154594

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S--t or get off the pot on Iran. Enough with "the war is almost over, we've destroyed their aircraft and sunk their navy, they want to make a deal, etc"

The entire world is starting to really hurt due to fuel shortages.

Either do it or don't, stop just talking about it.

He's making it up as he goes. I think he believed that we would "totally obliterate" them right at the start.
 

FLaw47

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Iran doesn’t get to call the shots with the US. The alternative to putting and end to this is allowing it to go on in perpetuity until Iran actually has a nuke and the world order is rearranged not in our favor.

It'd have been so awesome if we could have had some sort of a deal with Iran where they weren't allowed to build nukes, were subject to inspections that they were compliant with, and the Straight of Hormuz was awesome open. It'd take a real fûcking moron to throw something like that away.
 
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S--t or get off the pot on Iran. Enough with "the war is almost over, we've destroyed their aircraft and sunk their navy, they want to make a deal, etc"

The entire world is starting to really hurt due to fuel shortages.

Either do it or don't, stop just talking about it.
Friday, after the markets close.

Oh wait, I forgot that he likes to play rope-a-dope with the markets. So could be any time . . . once he's warned his buddies to place their bets.
 

nytigerfan

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S--t or get off the pot on Iran. Enough with "the war is almost over, we've destroyed their aircraft and sunk their navy, they want to make a deal, etc"

The entire world is starting to really hurt due to fuel shortages.

Either do it or don't, stop just talking about it.

Agreed. I hope at this point Trump doesn't think he can just wait out Iran. They are clearly willing to go all rounds. He either needs to take an off-ramp, which he should have done a long time ago, or get to it. Ultimately, to reach the stated objectives, we're going to have to have boots on the ground, which is going to be really, really, really bad. I mean, unfortunately, I see a lot of American soldiers being killed. So sad that we're at this place.
 

bdgan

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S--t or get off the pot on Iran. Enough with "the war is almost over, we've destroyed their aircraft and sunk their navy, they want to make a deal, etc"

The entire world is starting to really hurt due to fuel shortages.

Either do it or don't, stop just talking about it.
Remember "weeks, not months"? It's clear that he underestimated Iran's resolve.

I have to assume a lot of things are happing in the background that would allow the U.S. and allies to take control of the straits even if no deal is reached.
 

hawkeyetraveler

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Meh, it's time to be concerned. If the last election proved anything, Americans want lower prices. The #1 issue last election was inflation and the economy. Gas prices are a large component of the inflation CPI index, and it hit's almost all Americans directly in the pocket (except EV drivers now).

Inflation is just a hidden tax. I think Trump can sell a temporary increase in inflation as a cost of preventing Iran from getting a Nuke. Americans will buy that for 1-2 months, but then they are going to want the cost of their gas down.

Trump is walking a tight rope here, if he doesn't get oil moving before late summer, mid terms will be a blood bath for repuiblicans.

On the flip side, if the war with Iran wraps up and oil starts flowing, you will see prices "tumble" (or come back down to pre-war prices) and Trump will really be able to sell "handling Iran" and getting gas prices "lower".
Good to see the base is getting concerned. Better late than never I say. I do think politically he is stuck. Even if he ends the war today it will be months and months before prices fully revert. First you have the cycle time of getting a shipment to a refinery, refining, then shipping to the gas pumps, then you have all the refining capacity offline in the Middle East due to war damage.

I think prices will be high well into 2027. I hope I’m wrong and I pray Trump ends this folly ASAP without more mayhem.
 

hawkeyetraveler

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The military can't fix this. How are you missing that?
It can fix it. But the cost will be in the many trillions and many thousands of dead. But technically he isn’t wrong - we could take over Iran if we truly wanted to*



* That would be a shockingly stupid thing to do, but we are capable of such shockingly stupid things
 

GesterHawk

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Iran doesn’t get to call the shots with the US. The alternative to putting and end to this is allowing it to go on in perpetuity until Iran actually has a nuke and the world order is rearranged not in our favor.
Does the US get to call the shots with Iran? Venezuela? Cuba?
 
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hopefultiger13

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Agreed. I hope at this point Trump doesn't think he can just wait out Iran. They are clearly willing to go all rounds. He either needs to take an off-ramp, which he should have done a long time ago, or get to it. Ultimately, to reach the stated objectives, we're going to have to have boots on the ground, which is going to be really, really, really bad. I mean, unfortunately, I see a lot of American soldiers being killed. So sad that we're at this place.
THIS. The problem with Iran is the exact same one we have with Russia and China. Namely that the government is in no way accountable to the people of the country. They can just hang out... attack a ship or two in the Straits once a week or two and hang out some more. Meanwhile we are spending $1 Billion a day to keep up operations and oil prices stay high.

Our military has performed amazingly well during these operations, but unless you put boots on the ground, you aren't going to end Iran's threat to the world oil supply and their desire to get Nukes. It's a damn shame that no one thought of this before we started dropping bombs.

Oh wait, someone did!!!! Trump himself said it during his campaign. We don't belong in the middleeast, we need to stay out of these forever wars. But here we are again with no way out...
 

fatpiggy

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Good to see the base is getting concerned. Better late than never I say. I do think politically he is stuck. Even if he ends the war today it will be months and months before prices fully revert. First you have the cycle time of getting a shipment to a refinery, refining, then shipping to the gas pumps, then you have all the refining capacity offline in the Middle East due to war damage.

I think prices will be high well into 2027. I hope I’m wrong and I pray Trump ends this folly ASAP without more mayhem.
It won't particularly matter, in my opinion, if it takes months for prices to come down. What will be important is the trajectory, momentum, and expectations of future oil prices in approximately the month before the election. As long as prices are moving lower and the expectation is that they will be lower, will be acceptable to most even if it takes a couple months to get there.

As @baltimorened said in another thread, it's time to **** or get off the pot. I think Trump might take a **** soon. We will see.
 

hawkeyetraveler

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It won't particularly matter, in my opinion, if it takes months for prices to come down. What will be important is the trajectory, momentum, and expectations of future oil prices in approximately the month before the election. As long as prices are moving lower and the expectation is that they will be lower, will be acceptable to most even if it takes a couple months to get there.

As @baltimorened said in another thread, it's time to **** or get off the pot. I think Trump might take a **** soon. We will see.
You might be right for some. But everyone has their breaking point and we still haven’t seen the full cost roll through yet - many petroleum derivatives will see their price hikes in the coming months. I don‘t see how improving the trajectory is going to convince independent voters to get off the couch for a conservative.

One way or the other this is a high wire act for the GOP.
 

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It won't particularly matter, in my opinion, if it takes months for prices to come down. What will be important is the trajectory, momentum, and expectations of future oil prices in approximately the month before the election. As long as prices are moving lower and the expectation is that they will be lower, will be acceptable to most even if it takes a couple months to get there.

As @baltimorened said in another thread, it's time to **** or get off the pot. I think Trump might take a **** soon. We will see.
This is some serious wishcasting, especially since the main reason you claim Trump won in 2024 was inflation. Inflation was ~3% in 2024 and yet here we are. All people are going to remember is the $5/gal gas and the massive cost increase on everyday items. I'd be shocked if pubs don't get absolutely shellacked come november.
 

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Trump should have never started his war.

The p*****s in Congress should have invoked the War Powers Act clauses, or since that ship has sailed, refuse further funding.

Of course the feds are now releasing information about Cuba getting drones and missiles as a way to prep the public for an invasion of Cuba.
 

fatpiggy

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This is some serious wishcasting, especially since the main reason you claim Trump won in 2024 was inflation. Inflation was ~3% in 2024 and yet here we are. All people are going to remember is the $5/gal gas and the massive cost increase on everyday items. I'd be shocked if pubs don't get absolutely shellacked come november.
If the vote was right now, you may be right. But what im guessing is that the news cycle is different come late summer. The news cycle changes fast. IF, and i know it's a big IF, things get wrapped up in Iran and some peace agreement is negotiated, then that will go a long way to reducing oil prices, and rather quickly.

I wouldn't want to bet against the US and Trump getting their way on that issue. Iran and Democrats will do everything they can to be a thorn in his side, but the might of the US military is just too much.
 
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fatpiggy

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Trump should have never started his war.

The p*****s in Congress should have invoked the War Powers Act clauses, or since that ship has sailed, refuse further funding.

Of course the feds are now releasing information about Cuba getting drones and missiles as a way to prep the public for an invasion of Cuba.
Yeah, the drones story sounds like a lot of BS.

That said, I'm for team Free Cuba. Now is the time. Trump is the person to get it done.
 

tigres88

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Trump should have never started his war.

The p*****s in Congress should have invoked the War Powers Act clauses, or since that ship has sailed, refuse further funding.

Of course the feds are now releasing information about Cuba getting drones and missiles as a way to prep the public for an invasion of Cuba.
The party of "no new wars" and "we aren't the world's police" are really good at starting wars and being the world's police.
 

Huey Grey 2

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It can fix it. But the cost will be in the many trillions and many thousands of dead. But technically he isn’t wrong - we could take over Iran if we truly wanted to*



* That would be a shockingly stupid thing to do, but we are capable of such shockingly stupid things
Realistically the military can't take over Iran. All the military can do is clear part of the area. Someone else would then have to run the country.
 
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Huey Grey 2

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It won't particularly matter, in my opinion, if it takes months for prices to come down. What will be important is the trajectory, momentum, and expectations of future oil prices in approximately the month before the election. As long as prices are moving lower and the expectation is that they will be lower, will be acceptable to most even if it takes a couple months to get there.

As @baltimorened said in another thread, it's time to **** or get off the pot. I think Trump might take a **** soon. We will see.
You think a trillion dollar ground war with thousands of dead troops will help the GOP in midterms?
 

hawkeyetraveler

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Realistically the military can't take over Iran. All the military can do is clear the area. Someone else would then have to run the country.
Yeah, the militany could topple their government for sure. Then we would need a proxy to take over like in Iraq/Afghanistan.

Sad this is even a possibility. Yesterday was a better day than today to just walk away from Iran. And today is a better day than tomorrow.
 

Huey Grey 2

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If the vote was right now, you may be right. But what im guessing is that the news cycle is different come late summer. The news cycle changes fast. IF, and i know it's a big IF, things get wrapped up in Iran and some peace agreement is negotiated, then that will go a long way to reducing oil prices, and rather quickly.

I wouldn't want to bet against the US and Trump getting their way on that issue. Iran and Democrats will do everything they can to be a thorn in his side, but the might of the US military is just too much.
We couldn't clear Afghanistan. What makes you think we can clear Iran in a ground war?
 

Allornothing

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It'd have been so awesome if we could have had some sort of a deal with Iran where they weren't allowed to build nukes, were subject to inspections that they were compliant with, and the Straight of Hormuz was awesome open. It'd take a real fûcking moron to throw something like that away.
Good GOD you are a joke.

You actually believe Iran was playing by the rules because they told you so.

You’re too stupid to breathe. The American people should charge you for the oxygen.