Beaver Stadium reconstruction thread
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it's what we're up against and why we hate usThey may be a Ponzi scheme, but they're our Ponzi scheme!
So weird. Drive by the lovable dump nearly every day. Four distinct sections built in four different eras. Probably not unique but certainly unusual.
We are lucky to even have a Ponzi scheme…..They may be a Ponzi scheme, but they're our Ponzi scheme!
LOL, Joe was the coach of virtually all of those "generations." Where is his name and likeness? Or, did the good Lord bestow generations of greatness upon dear old state because he/she loves ice cream?
If you believe those numbers then you probably believe urban crime is down, city schools are great, and there is no homeless problem. Trump said inflation is under control so it must be true.
The waste of money is sports that lose money, departments that lose money and majors where kids can't get jobs.
Why is it a waste of money? The stadium needed to he refurbished for many reasons, so either PSU was going to spend millions and millions to build a new stadium, which wasn’t going to happen, or do what they’re doing now like FSU just did. I just don’t understand the negativity about this from some when the cost of the renovations never will affect the vast majority of fans, and the end product is going to be great.
God, Nebraska, which just refurbished their stadium probably as recently as twenty years ago, now is going to spend millions and millions to do further upgrades.
We'll see how much money they make now that they have to pay the players. As for useless majors, they have to take something to keep them eligible, thought that will go by the boards if it hasn't already.
FWIW, Florida, this week, announced a $1.45 billion renovation on the swamp to be completed by 2030.
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Swamp makeover: Florida announces plans for a $1.45B renovation to Ben Hill Griffin Stadium
The University of Florida is planning the most expensive and potentially most comprehensive stadium renovation in college football history, a $1.45 billion overhaul of Ben Hill Griffin Stadium.
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On some Florida board, someone is getting ready to post that it’s a waste of money, or maybe that’s just a PSU phenomenon.FWIW, Florida this week announced a $1.45 billion renovation on the swamp to be completed by 2030.
Swamp makeover: Florida announces plans for a $1.45B renovation to Ben Hill Griffin Stadium
The University of Florida is planning the most expensive and potentially most comprehensive stadium renovation in college football history, a $1.45 billion overhaul of Ben Hill Griffin Stadium.
For their sake, they should have a more compelling presentation of the financial justification for the project. Penn State's was downright pathetic.
Because they are spending all those millions on a facility that gets used seven times a year and has nothing whatsoever to do with what is supposed to be the core mission of the University,
Yeah, others are doing the same stupid thing- that's not a justification.
Logically you’re right. But let’s face it; schools like PSU basically are athletic departments that have universities rather that the other way around. If you want PSU to even have a chance to be relevant in big time college football, then this is a part of the cost of doing business.
You just have to hope that the success of the athletic department spills over into the academics, and history has shown that it has; I imagine that IU’s admission applications probably are at an all time high now. Look at how PSU grew as a university because of what Paterno did with the football program in the late 60s, and the growth of this school really hasn’t stopped since that time.
FWIW, Florida this week announced a $1.45 billion renovation on the swamp to be completed by 2030.
Swamp makeover: Florida announces plans for a $1.45B renovation to Ben Hill Griffin Stadium
The University of Florida is planning the most expensive and potentially most comprehensive stadium renovation in college football history, a $1.45 billion overhaul of Ben Hill Griffin Stadium.
Pat needs to step it up.
Joe's role in improving PSU can't be disputed.
But the growth lately has driven costs up so far that the University depends on out of state and foreign student tuition for survival. The core mission of educating PA's children has been lost. I fear that the future of brick-and-mortar institutions is very much at risk anyway, and only the very best will survive. On the present course, I don't see PSU as one of the very best- I wish I felt differently.
There’s no doubt that many institutions of higher learning in this country either have lost their mission and/or become bloated, and there needs to be a reformation. This also goes for many Ivy League schools, which we’ve seen from Congressional hearings and other events how incompetently run they are, which has affected the quality of education that students receive at those schools too.
More and more kids are realizing that in the new businesses like tech, you really don’t need to waste four or five years of your life getting drunk and stoned when you can get right at it and start making a good living, especially when many teenagers now know more about tech than college professors do.
LSU, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Oregon all say hello. And Indiana has no difficulty in filling its freshman class.
So most university presidents couldn't come up with ways to spend $700 million-top $1.5 billion that would enhance the academics of their schools? Come to think of it, they probably couldn't.
Pathetic? How exactly.
1. Stadium had structural issues and
2. press box was a hazard
3. Suites were sold out and in demand
4. Stadium did not comply with ADA rules and needed significant improvements all of which are included with this renovation
5. Renovation allows them to monetize the stadium outside of football.
6. a new stadium would have lost the draw to Penn State and cost 2-3x more
7. Stadium includes new welcome center for entire university.
But we will enjoy watching excellence from our seats in a luxury box. Bet we will all feel sorry for the other 106,000 peons in the stadium.it's what we're up against and why we hate us
you are an elite peon, obviouslyAm I ELITE.
And you know this how because that alternative was never presented? Do you know what the plans are for the remainder of the stadium?
What do you call it when an organization's CFO won't (or maybe can't) do an NPV calculation? Pathetic seems like a pretty good adjective.
Something needed to be done with Beaver Stadium. Whether the current project was the best solution remains an open question.
Well except for maybe the exposed Dinosaur Bones and the stuff inside that never properly/adequately grew/functioned with the growing attendance. Still, we loved the house that Joe built. We excluding the haters. Then even the haters agreed it was time for a proper fix, but when they got the fix, they thought was overdue, they still hate it. LOL
Hey, I resemble that remark. Im in the 106,000 peon section.