OT: Mets 2026 Season Thread

Doctor Worm

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Williams threw 8 pitches in the 9th and Gary/Keith assumed (as did I) that he'd be back for the 10th. Instead Mendoza went to Myers who was lights out. Had that decision not worked out, everyone in the media would have ripped him a new one. But it did work out.

Gotta be fair and give the man some credit, no?
 

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Thanks. Not sure why you would think I'd care what some posters here think about me. Especially Mets fans.
I've been going at it with fans of the Amazins since 1962. There are some who are actually okay, but most are either incredibly dumb or their perspective on baseball has been warped by a huge inferiority complex in regards to the Bronx Bombers.
The start to this season must be particularly rough for them.
Doesn't change the fact that your a douche, :cool:
 
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Great pitching last night. Some nice glove work also. Vientos and Benge have been really coming on. Need Bichette to start to deliver a bit more. We need him and Soto to kind of carry the offense a little more until Lindor and Polanco are back.

McLean, Weaver, Raley, Williams, Myers good stuff.
Was at the game last night. A lot of Mets fans in the house and the 7 Line group will be there today so should be strong Mets fan showing all weekend.
Great pitching last night and just enough offense. Was sitting along 1st base line and it looked like both balls Bichette hit were out. Maybe he’s ready to break out.
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Was at the game last night. A lot of Mets fans in the house and the 7 Line group will be there today so should be strong Mets fan showing all weekend.
Great pitching last night and just enough offense. Was sitting along 1st base line and it looked like both balls Bichette hit were out. Maybe he’s ready to break out.
LGM!
Good stuff! Have a great time if you go again!!!
 

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Considered, yes. Elected, no.
If Pete sits around 300 HRs by year end, it would underscore that he has a chance at 500. He'd then need another 200 over 8 years from his age 32 season to his age 39 season. So, absent injuries, it's doable. Of the players who have reached 500 HRs, only those linked to steroids (Bonds, A-Rod, Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro, Ramirez and Sheffield) did not make the Hall. So, if Pete gets to 500 steroid free, he very likely gets in.
 
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Listening to NBA radio today ….long story short as possible … Sam Mitchell asked why do owners allow GMs to ruin franchise by hanging around making bad move after bad move for 5-6 years . They fire coaches after one year when they know he’s not the guy . Why is everyone afraid to pull the plug on GM if they have made 3-5 horrible signings/trades in their first 12-18 months ???

Stearns has assembled a heaping pile of 💩💩💩.
 
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Listening to NBA radio today ….long story short as possible … Sam Mitchell asked why do owners allow GMs to ruin franchise by hanging around making bad move after bad move for 5-6 years . They fire coaches after one year when they know he’s not the guy . Why is everyone afraid to pull the plug on GM if they have made 3-5 horrible signings/trades in their first 12-18 months ???

Stearns has assembled a heaping pile of 💩💩💩.
GMs have more say in building the roster of teams, yet the manager is the one who has to fall on the sword. It's a f'd up way of avoiding responsibility for creating the mess.
RUN PREVENTION
RUN PREVENTION
RUN PREVENTION

All it has done is prevent the Mets from scoring. Only these Mets could pitch a no-no and still lose. In comes Doc with some weird fact to validate the no-no. :ROFLMAO: Don't disappoint me, Doc.:D
 
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Stearns' ability to analyze these types of situations is supposed to be his strength. He is always a step ahead of others, to the point he's running circles around them. The majority of the players he signed have failed to improve the team. For every successful signing like Holmes, Stearns signed another bust. What a fraud.
 

Knight Shift

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Stearns' ability to analyze these types of situations is supposed to be his strength. He is always a step ahead of others, to the point he's running circles around them. The majority of the players he signed have failed to improve the team. For every successful signing like Holmes, Stearns signed another bust. What a fraud.
He is a run prevention genius! 22 batters in a row without getting on base.

And Soto walks, Bichette lines out, and Slater grounds into a double play.

28 batters without a hit
💩💩
 
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What really pisses me off about Stearns is that he took an organization that didn't need a major overhaul. Yes, some things needed to be addressed, but his hate for certain players clouded his judgment. Instead of adding quality pitching, Stearns tried the nickel-and-dime approach while taking shots at guys who were helping the team. Now, Stearns is quiet as a mouse walking on cotton in a church.
Stearns:

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BigEastPhil

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Still have no idea why Mendoza remains the manager of this squad - but why hasn’t the hitting coach been fired / re delegated at a minimum ?

Put everyone on the trading block except for Benge / Scott and MCLean.

The worst fantasy baseball owner couldn’t put together a team this bad !
 

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Still have no idea why Mendoza remains the manager of this squad - but why hasn’t the hitting coach been fired / re delegated at a minimum ?

Put everyone on the trading block except for Benge / Scott and MCLean.

The worst fantasy baseball owner couldn’t put together a team this bad !
Firing Mendoza is an easy decision that gives Stearns a pass for this year.
 

Doctor Worm

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GMs have more say in building the roster of teams, yet the manager is the one who has to fall on the sword. It's a f'd up way of avoiding responsibility for creating the mess.
RUN PREVENTION
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RUN PREVENTION

All it has done is prevent the Mets from scoring. Only these Mets could pitch a no-no and still lose. In comes Doc with some weird fact to validate the no-no. :ROFLMAO: Don't disappoint me, Doc.:D
You talkin' to me?

First of all, it is impossible to pitch a no-no and still lose. A "no-no", at least as originally defined, means no hits, no runs. It is impossible to give up no runs and lose.

As far as pitching a no-hitter and lose, that has officially happened once before. In 1964, Ken Johnson of the old Houston Colt 45's (try using that name nowadays!) threw a nine inning no hitter, but lost 1-0. There have been other instances of eight inning no-hitter losses (because there was no bottom of the ninth), and combined no-hitter losses, but these are not considered official no hitters.

And while we're on the topic (anything to distract us from the current team) do you know it is possible to pitch a 10 inning PERFECT GAME and lose? This is thanks to the ghost runner rule. Runner begins the inning on second, advances to third on the first out, scores on the second out. Pitcher retires all 30 batters to face him, and still loses. Now THAT could only happen to the Mets!
 
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You talkin' to me?

First of all, it is impossible to pitch a no-no and still lose. A "no-no", at least as originally defined, means no hits, no runs. It is impossible to give up no runs and lose.

As far as pitching a no-hitter and lose, that has officially happened once before. In 1964, Ken Johnson of the old Houston Colt 45's (try using that name nowadays!) threw a nine inning no hitter, but lost 1-0. There have been other instances of eight inning no-hitter losses (because there was no bottom of the ninth), and combined no-hitter losses, but these are not considered official no hitters.

And while we're on the topic (anything to distract us from the current team) do you know it is possible to pitch a 10 inning PERFECT GAME and lose? This is thanks to the ghost runner rule. Runner begins the inning on second, advances to third on the first out, scores on the second out. Pitcher retires all 30 batters to face him, and still loses. Now THAT could only happen to the Mets!
I knew I could count on you. A man of great info.(y)
 
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Not sure who MasterFlip is, or why I should care. But I gotta laugh at fans who demand changes NOW! What changes? Ya wanna bring up AJ Ewing and have him go 8 for 60 like Benge did? Maybe Ryan Clifford? Or maybe you just want to find the best MLB bat available and overpay (in terms of trade chips) to get him?

I am not defending Stearns here. He is accountable for the Mets being in the hole they are in. But there is no magic carpet to fly out of it. Sometimes you just gotta stay the course.

UNLESS... you are ready to punt on the season right now, and put out the "For Sale" sign before any other potential sellers do. Holmes and Peralta, among others, could fetch nice returns. I am not recommending this by any means. But if you really feel you must do something right now, it is the only rational thing to do.
 
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Not sure who MasterFlip is, or why I should care. But I gotta laugh at fans who demand changes NOW! What changes? Ya wanna bring up AJ Ewing and have him go 8 for 60 like Benge did? Maybe Ryan Clifford? Or maybe you just want to find the best MLB bat available and overpay (in terms of trade chips) to get him?

I am not defending Stearns here. He is accountable for the Mets being in the hole they are in. But there is no magic carpet to fly out of it. Sometimes you just gotta stay the course.

UNLESS... you are ready to punt on the season right now, and put out the "For Sale" sign before any other potential sellers do. Holmes and Peralta, among others, could fetch nice returns. I am not recommending this by any means. But if you really feel you must do something right now, it is the only rational thing to do.
I was one of the "its early" patient ones. My patience is gone, not that it matters. But as to your post:

UNLESS... you are ready to punt on the season right now, and put out the "For Sale" sign before any other potential sellers do

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yesrutgers01

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What really pisses me off about Stearns is that he took an organization that didn't need a major overhaul. Yes, some things needed to be addressed, but his hate for certain players clouded his judgment. Instead of adding quality pitching, Stearns tried the nickel-and-dime approach while taking shots at guys who were helping the team. Now, Stearns is quiet as a mouse walking on cotton in a church.
Stearns:

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well, now that we went past “don’t worry, we are only 10% of tge season in and 1/4 of it is gone now.
I think I can see what the Stearn lovers saw back then. I believe they may have been right to tell us we didn’t have to worry. Stearns has a plan.

oh wait, I’m not seeing it.

cohen just can’t let this continue- the Mets are a complete joke again.
 

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I'm not seeking this stuff out, it is popping up in my feed on X. But, this is facts.

And BTW, did anyone hear Keith going off on Vientos on the stolen base when Braz threw to first, and Vientos stood on first base like a statue? Keith was pissed, and said at least once- he is not a first baseman.

 

Zak57

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I'm not seeking this stuff out, it is popping up in my feed on X. But, this is facts.

And BTW, did anyone hear Keith going off on Vientos on the stolen base when Braz threw to first, and Vientos stood on first base like a statue? Keith was pissed, and said at least once- he is not a first baseman.



Well you understand how the algorithms work though right? That post is dumb because of the injuries we've had.

I'm going to ramble now.

Anyways the D has been better and the pitching has been good as well. The offense is the problem right now big time(obviously) and the injuries are a part of it. We lost Soto for weeks and then we lost Lindor Polanco and Robert Jr. Robert Jr bat isn't great so let's remove him. Lindor and Polanco were expected to be a big part of the lineup and well we don't have them. Now throw in Bichette being this bad and Soto all of a sudden turning ice cold and we have a terrible lineup. The total inconsistency of Baty Vientos and Alvarez adds to this. I do blame Stearns for the crap replacements like Slater and Ibanez and Brujan but there isn't much out there and Melendez has been decent. We can also blame him for thinking the young guys would be consistent which he relied on.

I know Worm dismissed it above but Clifford and/or Ewing might be worth it to call up. I would like to think about that more though.
 

Doctor Worm

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well, now that we went past “don’t worry, we are only 10% of tge season in and 1/4 of it is gone now.
I think I can see what the Stearn lovers saw back then. I believe they may have been right to tell us we didn’t have to worry. Stearns has a plan.

oh wait, I’m not seeing it.

cohen just can’t let this continue- the Mets are a complete joke again.
I think Stearns did have a plan. But as that famed philosopher Mike Tyson once said "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." I think the plan centered around signing Kyle Tucker. I don't think Stearns anticipated the Dodgers punching him in the mouth. Stearns then pivoted to Bichette, who was a much poorer roster fit.

If Stearns knew he wasn't getting Tucker, I doubt he makes the Semien/Nimmo trade. Once Semien was on board, McNeil was expendable and was a partial salary dump.

I was totally on board with Stearns not offering Alonso five years, so I am not going to second guess that one. But replacing him with Polanco, who had never played the position, remains a headscratcher.
 
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Doctor Worm

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Well you understand how the algorithms work though right? That post is dumb because of the injuries we've had.

I'm going to ramble now.

Anyways the D has been better and the pitching has been good as well. The offense is the problem right now big time(obviously) and the injuries are a part of it. We lost Soto for weeks and then we lost Lindor Polanco and Robert Jr. Robert Jr bat isn't great so let's remove him. Lindor and Polanco were expected to be a big part of the lineup and well we don't have them. Now throw in Bichette being this bad and Soto all of a sudden turning ice cold and we have a terrible lineup. The total inconsistency of Baty Vientos and Alvarez adds to this. I do blame Stearns for the crap replacements like Slater and Ibanez and Brujan but there isn't much out there and Melendez has been decent. We can also blame him for thinking the young guys would be consistent which he relied on.

I know Worm dismissed it above but Clifford and/or Ewing might be worth it to call up. I would like to think about that more though.
Clifford has picked it up in Syracuse. I may have been too dismissive about a call up for him. Also Morabito may be worthy of consideration. I remain opposed to calling up Ewing after only 12 games in AAA.
 
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Zak57

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Clifford has picked it up in Syracuse. I may have been too dismissive about a call up for him. I remain opposed to calling up Ewing after only 12 games in AAA.
Like I said I need to look at more and it's probably a one off but I come back to the Harris call up by the Braves straight from AA.
 

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Stearns has turned this die-hard mets fan (and his young son) into a completely apathetic fan with zero real attachment to any of the players. Nolan McLean i like, the rest of them I've got no real connection with at all, and therefor i won't buy tickets, i won't buy jersey's, and i've been watching way way less than i have in the last 20 years. It's one season, (and half of last year) but if things don't turnaround soon, with the yankees doing yankee things, say goodbye to another generation of young mets fans. who would actually go to a game to watch this crap with players you don't know or care about?
 

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Stearns has turned this die-hard mets fan (and his young son) into a completely apathetic fan with zero real attachment to any of the players. Nolan McLean i like, the rest of them I've got no real connection with at all, and therefor i won't buy tickets, i won't buy jersey's, and i've been watching way way less than i have in the last 20 years. It's one season, (and half of last year) but if things don't turnaround soon, with the yankees doing yankee things, say goodbye to another generation of young mets fans. who would actually go to a game to watch this crap with players you don't know or care about?
If you've turned from a die-hard to completely apathetic in less than one full season, let's just say that you and I differ on the definition of die-hard.

As far as attachment to the players, did you have any attachment to Yoenis Cespedes when the Mets acquired him in 2015? I am guessing no. But he got us to the World Series, so you embraced him, as did we all.

To your point about players you don't know or care about... Since this is a CFB board, I will use a CFB example. Cignetti brought to Indiana a whole roster full of players whom the fans didn't know or care about. But that changed real quickly, because they won. To quote John Madden, "Winning is the best deodorant."

Barring the imposition of a salary cap (which is a whole 'nother discussion), the Mets will win again. With their resources, it is inevitable. When they do, those fans who have left will be back. That has been true since 1962 and I don't see it changing now.
 
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If you've turned from a die-hard to completely apathetic in less than one full season, let's just say that you and I differ on the definition of die-hard.

As far as attachment to the players, did you have any attachment to Yoenis Cespedes when the Mets acquired him in 2015? I am guessing no. But he got us to the World Series, so you embraced him, as did we all.

To your point about players you don't know or care about... Since this is a CFB board, I will use a CFB example. Cignetti brought to Indiana a whole roster full of players whom the fans didn't know or care about. But that changed real quickly, because they won. To quote John Madden, "Winning is the best deodorant."

Barring the imposition of a salary cap (which is a whole 'nother discussion), the Mets will win again. With their resources, it is inevitable. When they do, those fans who have left will be back. That has been true since 1962 and I don't see it changing now.
With the Met's incredible resources- we kind of only need a competent GM...2024 we had a great run, 2025, missed by 1 game but because of off season signing blunders for the most part and a horrible trade deadline. And then, we have this off season where nothing good has happened.

So- it isn't one season, it has been the last 2 squarely on the shoulder of Stearns to just get past that final block to the world series.
I am not impressed with the manager- but how is he supposed to do anything with the team he has? You can't help Lindor/Soto getting injured but to be so completely unable to field a MLB team with our resources? That is what turns die-hards.

The problem is- most of us are die hards for 30-60 years. And we still still continue to be, but we can easily become very apathetic until they fix it.
 

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If you've turned from a die-hard to completely apathetic in less than one full season, let's just say that you and I differ on the definition of die-hard.

As far as attachment to the players, did you have any attachment to Yoenis Cespedes when the Mets acquired him in 2015? I am guessing no. But he got us to the World Series, so you embraced him, as did we all.

To your point about players you don't know or care about... Since this is a CFB board, I will use a CFB example. Cignetti brought to Indiana a whole roster full of players whom the fans didn't know or care about. But that changed real quickly, because they won. To quote John Madden, "Winning is the best deodorant."

Barring the imposition of a salary cap (which is a whole 'nother discussion), the Mets will win again. With their resources, it is inevitable. When they do, those fans who have left will be back. That has been true since 1962 and I don't see it changing now.
Am I the only one still suffering from Vogelbach separation anxiety?

As a counterpoint to your point, this team went from a roster comprising:
Diaz, Lindor, McNeil, Alonso, and Nimmo- all fairly long term Mets and major contributors to:

An injured Lindor, a guy who purportedly may have had some influence in dealing a couple of the above, and really nobody contributing, except for Vientos.

I get your CFB analogy, and frankly, like others, I think college football sux now-just not as bad as the Mets suck.
 

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Am I the only one still suffering from Vogelbach separation anxiety?

As a counterpoint to your point, this team went from a roster comprising:
Diaz, Lindor, McNeil, Alonso, and Nimmo- all fairly long term Mets and major contributors to:

An injured Lindor, a guy who purportedly may have had some influence in dealing a couple of the above, and really nobody contributing, except for Vientos.

I get your CFB analogy, and frankly, like others, I think college football sux now-just not as bad as the Mets suck.
my anxiety comes more from the separation from Marte. Such a simple signing that made all the sense and a simple signing that would have paid huge dividends already this year with our injuries and leadership