I always laugh when anyone who has military training or was a police officer automatically thinks that makes them a badass in 1 v1 hand to hand fighting.
Kentucky Zooms Momcilovic
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Every time I have explained this very point they ignore it. Just like any other point that doesn't support their narrative. Time to start banning IPs and stop letting these pathetic losers ruin every thread
Look , he liked his own post with 2 of his other accounts
I don’t think the team will be that talented. Momcilovic would make just one addition ranked in the top 25 on the entire team. They will all have to play above their rankings, which isn’t impossible but I just don’t see them being that good. Florida, Tennessee and Arkansas are loaded with a lot more talent even if we get Momcilovic.
Completely disagree but welcome to your opinion
We don’t have a single new player in the top 25 on any rankings. We’re not going to be that good, in my opinion. Looking at who other teams have signed and kept from last season theirs no chance we have final 4 or elite 8 talent. I don’t understand why people believe that. But I also don’t understand why some guys like Paul Calhoun thought so highly of the roster from last year either. He said we were close to winning the SEC. Makes no sense to me.
Anyone watching a Pope coached team and seeing a well coached team is just willfully blind.
We got blown out in big games with all 3 of those guys. The media pumps up these teams and some of you all are making some of these guys out to be better than what they are. Popes first recruiting class was much better than last years and this years team. That’s odd to say considering how much time he had to build that roster.
Being a CCT is legit, I’m sure he’s in excellent condition, I worked with them for years, I’m going to go out on a limb and say he’d be a very capable person if necessary.
Say that to a seasoned Marine and you may have a different outlook on things going forward.
I mean isn’t that part of the job description? Why wouldn’t they at least be better than 99% of the population at it? I feel like that’s like saying “I love it when doctors think they are badasses when it comes to knowing how the body works”
It depends on the individual and amount/type of training. From what I read, he likely has had a lot of specialized training. I was a military policeman many many years ago. I had 144 hours of physical armed restraint training, but goofed off a lot. One day the trainer got upset with me and before I knew what was happening, he had me in a neck drag, with my back against his back and my feet up high in the air. He could have Killed me if he wanted. I was helpless. Some are more capable than others.
LMAO...we had plenty of seasoned marines come to train at our mma/weapons classes. Marines generally can shoot their butts off, are in great shape and really strong but by no means are they whipping a more trained guys *** simply off military training. It is what it always is, styles, physical matchup and training level determines the winner
There are box scores to prove my point and anyone can look up what the players are ranked in the portal. To make this work, returning players are going to have to be significantly better, guys will need to be better than what they are ranked, and the team chemistry needs to be improved. I really hope I’m wrong but I don’t see this team being able to compete for an SEC championship.
Or that their opinions on just about any subject should be given greater weight because they "served." Thanks for your service and all that but you aren't any better than anyone else.
It was still a new team, why do you guys never factor that in?
Also, look what happened in the Saint Johns game. Aberdeen couldn’t even get the ball past half court. Lowe came out of the lockerroom and they couldn't contain him. He got anywhere he wanted and we blew by them. He did that with a blown out shoulder in a very physical game.
Then JQ checked in and it was all she wrote.
I don't care what you guys think, without those 2 guys, we were a shell of ourselves.
Not to mention, if you have lowe at pg, you get Aberdeen at the 2 and Otega at the 3. That's a massive difference.
Lowe was never healthy and JQ was just trying to get his legs back under him, but for some reason, you guys ignore those things. Why?
Marines fight dirty. In combat, there are no rules.
That’s my opinion Jeff, I disagree with you. I’m not ignoring anything. Jaland Lowe was so great he ended up at Georgetown now. I don’t think he was as good as some of you believe he was even before the injury. Those Pittsburgh teams he played on were awful. JQ and Kam have potential to be really good but it’s going to take time for them to reach it. Last years team just didn’t mesh well and even without the injuries I believe they would have struggled regardless.
Go through the last 5 National Champs and tell me all the top ranked recruits they have. Cal only won one title in 15 years fella and he had the top ranked class year in year out
At DaNang, every branch of service or nationality that had a presence had security responsibility for a section of the perimeter. The way things worked out, we had a guard tower inside the marine camp. They were very unhappy about that. One night, one of our guys was mouthy about protecting them. Later that night, someone inside the camp threw a hand grenade at the base of the tower.
Both teams had them in the last national title game. Theirs multiple teams with top 25 guys that made it to the final four in the past. Floridas last championship team is one you can say that didn’t. Having talent sure helps if you want to make it as far as we want in the tournament. Spin it anyway you want but as of now our roster isn’t very talented compared to a lot of schools.
I can totally understand your scenario and to be an elite fighter, absolutely the case. A CCT takes a tremendous amount of mental focus and in today’s military, at least in terms of tiered units, they would be on the mats multiple times per week doing basic MMA when not out on ops, would see them quite frequently. This also is amplified giving the joint nature of things, we would have numerous international SOF units integrated on any given day and many of them would teach unique fighting techniques.I would go out sometimes with these guys and even though I qualified as a marksman in the military, I chose not to carry, I would just be in their lines of fire, lol, gotta know ones limitations.
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What’s funny about that? It’s a rational concern for any fan to be worried that we don’t have enough talent at this point to win the conference. Florida, Arkansas, Texas, and Tennessee are loaded this year. The SEC is going to be really tough.
JQ IS NOT a talented basketball player… He’s tall, has a good standing reach, and has slightly above athleticism with decent hops, that’s it!
As for Lowe, if I even need to explain his game, and how he makes everyone else around him worse, then any explanation would be wasting my time.
I never said Lowe was Chris Paul and I never said JQ was Kat, but JQ showed what he could be in that game and unlike Aberdeen, Lowe was a true pg and he showed how important that fact is in that game.
You guys can't have it both wsys. Either the players suck, or Pope sucks.
You guys are saying they all suck. Well, how is that possible?
Look who was coaching that St Johms team. Rick Pitino is one of the best coaches of all time. He had a fully healthy roster and they were better. How did UK win that game if our players stunk and our coach stinks?
How did UK win at Arkansas, against a far more talented roster and a HOF coach, if Pope sucks so bad?
How did UK win 4 out of 5 over fully healthy Tennessee teams if Pope sucks and our players are/were min major quality?
How did UK beat Gonzaga, Florida, Duke and Illinois, if Pope sucks so bad and our players weren't UK caliber?
Y'all can't have it both ways. Maybe Pope is terribly inconsistent, cool, but I'm having a hard time believing he sucks, when he did all the things he did in year 1, with a roster built on the fly that dealt with so many injuries.
I keep reading comments from guys on here saying this is the worst UK has been in their history. Like, wth kind of a garbage take is that?
I just don't understand how the coach and players suck yet Pope has so many huge wins the last 2 years. Could it be that everything went sideways in year 2 and that's all it was? Most teams that lose their best pg usually suck.
Then how did UK beat St Johns and one of the best coaches in the history of the game, after they had us by the throat?
How did UK win that game with sucky players and a terrible coach?
Saying JQ is not good, is laughable, he was going to be a lottery pick. They don't take you in the lottery, if you suck.
And Lowe is a true pg, he was the only one we had. Without a true pg, we were never going to be any good.
Give me Lowe at the 1, Aberdeen at the 2 and Oweh at the 3, how is that not massively better?
I mean, JQ came into that St Johns game a stuffed one of the best frontcourt players in a locker, he is clearly very talented.
I don’t like how you’re classifying me as a person that hates Pope when I don’t. You’re griping at me over things I’ve never said, which is odd to me but whatever.
Every coach has flaws and I believe his is recruiting. He just went 0-15 on top twenty players that visited campus. It’s just to hard to compete with top teams when you’re at a talent disadvantage. I really liked his first team and I think they were by far more talented than last years team and this coming seasons team as of now. Jaxon Robinsons injury was significant imo, but I don’t think Kam Williams was as significant because at this time he’s not even close to being as good as Jaxon was. Kam just averaged 6 points a game last year. I hope he develops to be that good but I’m not sure if he will.
And everyone is discrediting Lowe and JQ. This team doesn’t lose anything close to 14 games with those 2 in the lineup.
It's so easy to just say they suck, but neither if them ever got the chance to mesh with the team, or even get any kind of momentum. We're judging Lowe on how he performed with a wrecked shoulder.
The SJ game proved how good that team could have been. Nobody could stay in front of Lowe.
The team was flawed either way, but at full strength, they would have been far better.
I’ll take a guy who practices shooting and fighting weekly and was deployed 4 times vs. some rando I know nothing about generally. If you go on 4 tours that generally means you wanted to go back on your own accord. Does it necessarily mean they will beat anyone up? Nope. But I am at least convinced they know how to protect themselves at the very worst.
JQ is going to be really good but he’s young and inconsistent right now. I don’t agree with you at all about Lowe, he was decent but not as good as you’re implying in my opinion. He played his best game against St. John’s but look how bad he struggled against Louisville and Gonzaga. I’m not saying he was terrible or anything like that but I just wasn’t sold on him being as good as you and some others believe he was. I also felt like last year’s team didn’t play well together like that team did in Popes first year. Those guys played way better team basketball, in my opinion.
Pope at this point doesn’t recruit well enough to make it at a school like UK. The SEC is a better basketball conference than it used to be and I believe to get back on top we have to find a coach that recruits better. I just don’t want another Calipari that can recruit but struggles with in game adjustments. We don’t even have to have a guy that recruits as good as Cal, just one that can land a top player or two and can put the right role players around them.
Well, let me pull one of your shoulders out of its socket, then send you to the blue courts and see how you do.
Why do you guys think this is a video game? The guy was never healthy and you're judging him like it was a hangnail.