I think it will be interesting if anymore highly ranked players will wait till the last minute to enter the portal. Maybe that’s what the staff is waiting on? I don’t know but it’s strange how quiet things have been during this recruiting period and it seems like they aren’t after many of the top ten players at this point that I’m aware of.
So bottom line, is it JMI or Pope ?
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I don’t really follow exactly what you’re saying. But there’s no doubt that leaders exist. And many of them of different kinds. A lot of times leadership styles can be dictated by field. Jobs where someone is performing “simple” tasks repeatedly through hard labor may require a Type A director, whereas others that require creativity/ingenuity may require a Type B leader. There’s a reason for many companies to use flattening hierarchical organizational systems these days in modern business settings. There is no on-size fits all though.
That’s playing Russian Roulette, brilliant strategy to potentially snag the final chess piece for your roster, that’s not Pope’s situation however, he’s sitting upon one of the most depleted rosters in CBB.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these players agents don’t start trying to get them deals before they officially enter the portal though. I know what you mean by saying that’s Russian roulette. I’m impatient and nervous about who they end up with.
No, they’re likely in desperation mode, Freeman is a prime example, obviously wants to play elsewhere.
I have no idea what they are doing I’m just guessing on what could be going on
Yes, I’ve found that out. The sad part is he’s an older dude and CLEARLY mentally ill. Almost feel sorry for him.
The Pope pumpers get away with personal attacks just read the board. If you retaliate and you’re not a Pope Pumper you get banned by mods.
Pretty sad what the narrative is here.
I do not need Jasper's uncle to tell me it is hard to relate to Pope. I can not stand to listen to the man talk. He is full of crap and thinks everything is fantasy land until he gets his teeth kicked in and then he pouts like a little spoiled toddler.
DenialI know people listen to the propaganda in the media concerning UK’s NIL situation, and they act like it’s all good and well, but…
How is it UofL and Pat Kelsey are landing top recruit after top recruit, yet powerhouse UK has to settle on everyone else’s leftovers?
The only logical answer is, it has to be NIL, or lack thereof!
Pat Kelsey isn’t some HOF coach (yet), and UofL isn’t exactly the Boston Celtics of MCBB, so what’s the missing piece?
$$$
Pope 100%
I amnot a Kelsey fan but he is easier to listen to than Pope is.
lol no it wasn’t personally or derogatory any way plus they didn’t say then deleted my thread on me questioning why
Williams and Brea are both on NBA rosters. Robinson and Carr are in the g league .
Look at BYU's recruits and winning % before he arrived.
The bottom line is. After last seasons debacle. Pope should have gone into this portal season scorched earth. JMI be damned. But he hasn’t. Because he isn’t capable. I wish there was some way to get him to step down immediately for the good of the program.
I’ve had plenty of personal attacks my way. They don’t bother me. Just shows me they have nothing to say on whatever the subject is.
I didn’t know people were getting banned for it though.
I think the new excuse is JMI has restrictions on basketball that it doesn’t on football/NIL doesn’t matter in football because they use revshare/football is different.
First year team didn't think that. Have you heard most coaches, most of them are narcissists.
Exactly. I just want to know what it truly is. It's hard to fathom that it's all just Pope. He brought in some good players his 1st year, and they all seemed to really love him. He killed it at his press conference, so he has some charisma. And even if he is just bad, with our money, resources, and exposure, he should still be doing better than what he is. This isn't a defend Pope post. I just worry that we move on and the next coach has the same problem because of something internal going on. It just doesn't make sense that things are this bad.
You cited from BERKELEY???So what you are saying is that the reason Pope struggles in recruiting is because he is a pack wolf who serves as second in commanding the pack. He is unable to get along with players who are pack wolves that serve in primarily commanding the packs? Complete nonsense. I like you, TrueBluePhil, but you’ve been listening to people like TFCat11 too much. When I say that I mean people who have no idea what alpha male or beta male even means:
The Myth of the Alpha Male
Single straight guys: If you want to attract more women, research suggests you should cultivate kindness and altruism.greatergood.berkeley.edu
The "alpha" and "beta" male dichotomy is a scientifically debunked, false dichotomy with no basis in human biology. It stems from flawed 1940s wolf studies (later retracted by their own author) that misinterpreted family units as competitive hierarchies. In humans, behavior is dictated by social context and complexity, not innate dominance hierarchies.
Do you need more links?You cited from BERKELEY???
Bad news, alpha males. You likely don't actually exist.
Most primate communities are egalitarian
theweek.com
How Myths About Alpha Males Can Contribute To Young Men Falling Behind
Young men are falling behind on key factors in society. However, being male is not the problem. One factor is popular views on males that are based on a debunked theory.
www.forbes.com
The Scientist Who Debunked the Alpha Male Myth: A Tale of Wolf Research
In the realm of animal behavior and social hierarchy, few creatures have captured the human imagination as thoroughly as the wolf. For centuries, the idea of the "alpha male" wolf reigned supreme in our understanding of wolf packs and their dynamics.
www.linkedin.com
The Myth of the Alpha Male
There’s no such thing as an “alpha male.” It’s a false myth with no bases in science.
popculturedetective.agency
The "alpha male" myth, debunked
Primatologist Frans de Waal inadvertently popularized the term ‘alpha male.’ Now, he’s debunking common stereotypes to explain what an ‘alpha male’ really is – empathetic and protective.
bigthink.com
I don't think it's as simple as one vs the other, but most likely a series of compounding issues. Having said that, Pope seems to have real difficulty connecting with recruits. His "raging positivity" can come across as insincere at times and I think people pick up on that. Freeman's quote about wanting to play for someone he knew would push him speaks to that. We have all known someone whose over the top positivity just comes off as phony and makes you want to avoid them in general. I fear that is something that is in play here and for which there is no real solution. Pope isn't going to change who he is at this point.
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75-100% Pope and 0-25% JMI. I use a range because of the nuance of Stein is having zero issues as well as Kenny Brooks is not having any issue recruiting.
FB recruiting not negatively affected by JMI. Different situation entirely. Go back to the time when JMI stories came out. I posted all kinds of resources on this topic. I was well known at the time it would affect basketball and not football. Nothing new.
Two things can be true at the same time. My bottom line is I can’t control it so I don’t worry about it.
You have to be a great salesman to be a great coach. People like Pat Riley "own" every room they're in by dint of their presence in it alone. Pope is a sweet human being, but he should have stayed in medical school.
Popovich 1000% He is whip smart and can communicate effectively. Pope comes across as a dork. And I say that with love. Dorks are great, quirky people. I'm one. LolWhen you see these guys, do you think salesman?
I guess the answer is YES.
How that is weighted probably varies depending on the player and his representation.
Some it may be 100% Pope while for others it may be 90% JMI and they were the straw that broke the camel's back.
Overall, probably 70% Pope having few pros and a thin track record, plus being Pope but he is no weirder than Pat Kelsey or Cronin so who knows?
The spend number from last season going around is a problem too as I think it has put us in a tough spot expectations wise and set us up to be a stalking horse.
How that is weighted probably varies depending on the player and his representation.
Some it may be 100% Pope while for others it may be 90% JMI and they were the straw that broke the camel's back.
Overall, probably 70% Pope having few pros and a thin track record, plus being Pope but he is no weirder than Pat Kelsey or Cronin so who knows?
The spend number from last season going around is a problem too as I think it has put us in a tough spot expectations wise and set us up to be a stalking horse.
