It's hard to recruit above average players to play a very limited offensive philosophy, especially when you already have a scorer implanted. The pitch being come to Mississippi State and play with Hubbard, we need you to play defense, rebound, and set screens. It doesn't just exude confidence in developing anyone's game.
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This. He’s paid a Top 15-20 salary(4.4M), and we spent Top 30 money for him to put together that crap roster from last year. It’s not like he is the lowest paid coach with the lowest paid roster in the SEC. He needs to produce or get out. Many say he doesn’t like it here in Starkville. Well, I don’t like him here either right now.
Sorry to hijack this thread but is it even possible to fire/buyout Lebby and Jans in the same athletic year? I assume we can all agree that's on the table with another bad year from both? Does Jans know that's not possible so the motivation to improve this year is lacking?
It's not just the offense. It's hard to recruit players to Starkville, period. We know this. I know we dumped a bunch of money into the Hump a few years back, but it's still at best maybe the 10th best arena in the league and you could argue it's lower, hopefully above Bama, LSU, and UGA. The in game environment/atmosphere is poor. Attendance is spotty even when we were going to three straight tournaments. I don't have the answers to all of this but for $4.4 million/year I do expect Jans to have more and better answers than he has shown me the last couple of years.
I think your answer to your confusion is in your post.
The guy made the tournament 3 years in a row. Yes the teams lost right away each season, but he made the tournament 3 years in a row.
Prior to him arriving, MSU had made the tournament 1 time in the prior 13 seasons. So yeah, making the tournament 3 years in a row was huge.
Maybe it was like giving a dehydrated man in the desert untreated stream water, so he feels better in the short term but ***** his guts out afterwards, but making the tournament 3 years in a row after being so starved for relevancy was really neat.
I really hope the guy turns shit around this season but as of now, it looks like tough sledding. I hope the staff is has a bunch of offers out to some portal players and are just waiting to hear back. I would love for Jans to stay and succeed because less program chaos is better than more chaos. Simple as that.
If Statistics classes taught me anything, its that we are due for some transfers that land on the allSEC 1st and 2nd teams!..or is it that we arent due? Uh oh.
It's definitely not just the offense. Although, it does seem difficult to recruit players to Starkville, but it has been done. Rick Ray did it, Ben Howland did it, and Rick definitely did it. I think it is a combination of a multitude of things but at the end of the day the buck stops at the top. If we aren't going to be a perennial top 30 team, stop paying like it.
I'm well aware of our history in basketball. I've been watching it pretty closely since before Jeff Malone, so I've seen all but the 60's tourney teams.
I'm just not all that impressed with three straight barely NCAA tourney teams. Yes, it was a slight improvement on Howland, but we weren't happy with him so I never got the love for Jans.
And I'm not a guy who lives to jump on our coaches. They get a lot of rope with me. Usually too much. He's just not that impressive and his recruiting is abysmal.