Virginia Redistricting PASSED!!

TigerGrowls

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๐ŸšฉThis is straight-up impossible.
Fairfax County only has 3 high-speed scanners.
Even in perfect conditions, those 3 machines can process a max of 4,500 ballots in 5 minutes.
Yet the YES votes just exploded by over 64,000 in that exact window. The NO votes (Republicans) were leading all night and when about 90% of votes were in Democrats squeeze a win by.
Weโ€™re watching, Democrats.
#ElectionIntegrity #VirginiaFraud
 

yoshi121374

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๐ŸšฉThis is straight-up impossible.
Fairfax County only has 3 high-speed scanners.
Even in perfect conditions, those 3 machines can process a max of 4,500 ballots in 5 minutes.
Yet the YES votes just exploded by over 64,000 in that exact window. The NO votes (Republicans) were leading all night and when about 90% of votes were in Democrats squeeze a win by.
Weโ€™re watching, Democrats.
#ElectionIntegrity #VirginiaFraud


Dude. Surely by now you have learned something about these types of ******** claims...

You are seriously a glutton for punishment.
 
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GDead_Tiger

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๐ŸšฉThis is straight-up impossible.
Fairfax County only has 3 high-speed scanners.
Even in perfect conditions, those 3 machines can process a max of 4,500 ballots in 5 minutes.
Yet the YES votes just exploded by over 64,000 in that exact window. The NO votes (Republicans) were leading all night and when about 90% of votes were in Democrats squeeze a win by.
Weโ€™re watching, Democrats.
#ElectionIntegrity #VirginiaFraud

Thereโ€™s a lot wrong with this, but the Yes votes pulled ahead with about 75% in and that is when the race got called. I was following along via the AP/PBS and it was apparent very early in the night that the Yes vote would win. Everything is a conspiracy when you donโ€™t understand how stuff works
 

TigerGrowls

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We wrote about what would happen to Virginia and we were correct. The game plan has been public for some time.

Win one election, irrevocably destroy the ability to lose power, then govern the state into the ground.

First they win, then they redistrict to never lose again, finally they decriminalize rape and manslaughter.
 

GDead_Tiger

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We wrote about what would happen to Virginia and we were correct. The game plan has been public for some time.

Win one election, irrevocably destroy the ability to lose power, then govern the state into the ground.

First they win, then they redistrict to never lose again, finally they decriminalize rape and manslaughter.

So partisan gerrymandering and redistricting is bad. Glad we can agree on that! Now time to undo Texas and North Carolina and Tennessee!
 

TigerGrowls

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So partisan gerrymandering and redistricting is bad. Glad we can agree on that! Now time to undo Texas and North Carolina and Tennessee!
Texas for sure has not actually been done I'm fairly sure. The dems are benefitting way more from the current gerrymandering than Republicans and its not close.
 
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dpic73

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๐ŸšฉThis is straight-up impossible.
Fairfax County only has 3 high-speed scanners.
Even in perfect conditions, those 3 machines can process a max of 4,500 ballots in 5 minutes.
Yet the YES votes just exploded by over 64,000 in that exact window. The NO votes (Republicans) were leading all night and when about 90% of votes were in Democrats squeeze a win by.
Weโ€™re watching, Democrats.
#ElectionIntegrity #VirginiaFraud
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dpic73

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Texas for sure has not actually been done I'm fairly sure. The dems are benefitting way more from the current gerrymandering than Republicans and its not close.
It would have been a wipeout before Texas started the mid-decade gerrymandering and it will still be a wipeout now that this admin has destroyed all the goodwill they had built up with the Hispanic community. All they've done is weaken all of their districts and it wouldn't surprise me if they don't win any of the newly drawn ones because ain't nobody happy.

 

TigerGrowls

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Texas for sure has not actually been done I'm fairly sure. The dems are benefitting way more from the current gerrymandering than Republicans and its not close.

It would have been a wipeout before Texas started the mid-decade gerrymandering and it will still be a wipeout now that this admin has destroyed all the goodwill they had built up with the Hispanic community. All they've done is weaken all of their districts and it wouldn't surprise me if they don't win any of the newly drawn ones because ain't nobody happy.


How have they destroyed goodwill with the hispanic community?
 
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GDead_Tiger

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Texas for sure has not actually been done I'm fairly sure. The dems are benefitting way more from the current gerrymandering than Republicans and its not close.
Texas, NC, and TN all drew their maps to get rid of democratic seats. NC is a 50/50 state but their congressional delegation is 10-3 GOP now. Nashville got split up in districts so it doesnโ€™t have a Dem rep. Texas explicitly did their redistricting to add more GOP reps by disenfranchising black voters. The GOP has been doing this for decades.

The explicit purpose of the Virginia redistricting is to counteract the Texas one. Four for four. If republicans want to stop then they can join the democrats in passing a bill to ban partisan gerrymandering. The bill is already written
 
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TigerGrowls

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Texas, NC, and TN all drew their maps to get rid of democratic seats. NC is a 50/50 state but their congressional delegation is 10-3 GOP now. Nashville got split up in districts so it doesnโ€™t have a Dem rep. Texas explicitly did their redistricting to add more GOP reps by disenfranchising black voters. The GOP has been doing this for decades.

The explicit purpose of the Virginia redistricting is to counteract the Texas one. Four for four. If republicans want to stop then they can join the democrats in passing a bill to ban partisan gerrymandering. The bill is already written
Deep blue democrat states are much more gerrymandered than anything republicans are doing. FACT!!!
 

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dpic73

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Deep blue democrat states are much more gerrymandered than anything republicans are doing. FACT!!!
"Trump starts a redistricting battle, thinking Democrats won't retaliate, but they do, and gain more seats. Now Republicans cry foul at their self-imposed problem.

Trump starts a trade war, expecting the world will take it. Instead, the US loses jobs, farms go bankrupt, manufacturing declines, and our trading partners make deals with China rather than with the US. Worst of all, Trump's tariffs are illegal, so the government ends up with nothing for all the trouble.

Trump berates NATO and threatens to invade a NATO nation. Then, when Trump starts a war in Iran without talking to our allies first, he's shocked when they don't show up to help.

Trump bombs Iran, expecting them to cave to his demands a few days later. Instead, Iran attacks US military bases and damages other nations' energy production. It closes the Strait of Hormuz, disrupting global energy markets, sending gas prices over $4 a gallon, and spiking US inflation to the highest in years. The war is in its eighth week.

Trump is outmatched and continues to fail. His first term was a shock to America and the world, but this time, everyone was ready for him.

Trump's bullying no longer works, and that's all he knows."

 
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Aardvark86

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Double A: I have not followed the Virginia litigation anywhere near as closely as you, and I have to agree with you in being mystified as to how this trial judge thinks he retains jurisdiction over the case while it is on appeal. We'll just have to wait and see what the appellate court does, but if I was on that court, I might be just a little miffed at this lower court judge for trespassing on my prerogative.

With respect to the 3 issues you mentioned, the definition of "voting date" is the issue I find most intriguing. I would normally consider Election Day to be "voting day," but early voting authorizes voters to cast valid votes prior thereto, and the referendum should arguably be authorized before ANY voting takes place. It should be interesting to see how the appeals court rules on this issue. The term "restore fairness" does, indeed, strike me as conclusory, and as a departure from the usual, dry and technical verbiage of ballot propositions. As to stating the purpose for which a special session is called, I am not familiar enough with Virginia law to express an opinion on the level of specificity required for the notice of the special session. Isn't there a statute on this specific subject and, if so, are there not any Virginia cases construing it?

Finally, I agree that the voters voting for it certainly will not carry the day if the appeals court finds that one or more of the above mentioned requirements has not been met.
Yeah, i don't think any of these arguments are laughable by any stretch, and the voting day one is indeed especially intriguing given the pending scotus case on counting mail ballots received after voting day. Interestingly, in the course of that oral argument, there were a lot of questions about things that happen BEFORE the annointed day in November, and what it means to 'perfect' a vote (with a seeming lean toward the state's custody of that vote in some form). That basic logic could be cited to suggest that, indeed, the election began when the early in person votes were cast, which was about a month too early under the state law governing ballot initiatives, (To be clear, the scotus case involved a federal issue and I don't think "should" be controlling on VA law or how it is construed, but if there's a any hook for scotus to get involved, maybe that's it, even if it's citing it as a persuasive construction of when an election begins).

Thankfully, I am not a VA lawyer so don't have specific thoughts on any of this (including the question about legislative sessions). When I took the bar, Virginia still had separate law and equity courts. No, I am not kidding about that. They also made you take it in Roanoke in an un air conditioned coliseum, in the middle of summer, wearing a coat and tie.
 
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Honestly, it's kinda stupid. But the 'coexist' tattoo did remind me of a pretty hilarious recurring bit by a local sports radio guy (Steve Czaban), called "I might be mistaken but..." where callers would call in with some issue that they'd begin with "I might be mistaken but..." Czaban would kick off the bit by explaining how the game worked, saying something to the effect of "You know those Coexist bumper stickers? I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure there is only one religious symbol on there that can't seem to get along with any of the others."
 

ClemsonCO14

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"Red herring with illegal immigration (no prof that illegal immigrants vote)" You do know that people have been arrested and deported for doing just that dont you? These blue states issue them a driver license which they used to go vote then. There are reasons the left doesnt want to cleanup voter rolls and oppose any attempt to make elections fair and safe. Take illegals out of the census and allow only legal citizens to vote with no mail-in ballots and the left wont win a national election and the Pubs would run congress with a healthy majority....

A number of states have investigated and found that a de minimis amount of illegal immigrants vote in elections. Itโ€™s one of the easiest things to audit.

The YouTuber included illegal immigrants as a justification for Texasโ€™ actions (which again, predated Virginiaโ€™s retaliatory actions). Using an event whose impact has a zero left of the decimal and 3+ to the right is not just dishonest, itโ€™s intellectually offensive.

Why is critical thinking so hard for you? Arenโ€™t you a Clemson graduate?

 

TigerRagRob

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A number of states have investigated and found that a de minimis amount of illegal immigrants vote in elections. Itโ€™s one of the easiest things to audit.

The YouTuber included illegal immigrants as a justification for Texasโ€™ actions (which again, predated Virginiaโ€™s retaliatory actions). Using an event whose impact has a zero left of the decimal and 3+ to the right is not just dishonest, itโ€™s intellectually offensive.

Why is critical thinking so hard for you? Arenโ€™t you a Clemson graduate?

so you gone from saying there was no evidence to admitting there was some now, but not enough to matter? RRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIgGHtttttttt!!!!!!
 

TigerRagRob

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Thereโ€™s a lot wrong with this, but the Yes votes pulled ahead with about 75% in and that is when the race got called. I was following along via the AP/PBS and it was apparent very early in the night that the Yes vote would win. Everything is a conspiracy when you donโ€™t understand how stuff works
instead of claiming people are dumb how about contend with the claim being made that its not possible to count that many in that short of time by demonstrating how it is possible. You might convince people if you responded with a logical retort...
 

TigerRagRob

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So partisan gerrymandering and redistricting is bad. Glad we can agree on that! Now time to undo Texas and North Carolina and Tennessee!
Dems have been doing this for decades in places like MA and NM and CA. They just put it on steroids in VA. Before they did it a little at a time so it didnt draw much attention...
How have they destroyed goodwill with the hispanic community?
Wishful thinking by these elitist white leftist....
 
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GDead_Tiger

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instead of claiming people are dumb how about contend with the claim being made that its not possible to count that many in that short of time by demonstrating how it is possible. You might convince people if you responded with a logical retort...
Because that isnโ€™t how they were counted or what happened
 

LafayetteBear

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That's gonna be the real cherry on top, when those Texas districts they picked up go blue.
I would really love to see that happen, but I gotta say that people have been predicting for SO LONG that Texas would turn blue (or even purple), and then being proven wrong, that I am definitely not counting on this until it actually happens.
 

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I would really love to see that happen, but I gotta say that people have been predicting for SO LONG that Texas would turn blue (or even purple), and then being proven wrong, that I am definitely not counting on this until it actually happens.
You're right, and to be clear I was only talking about a district or two, maybe three. Not expecting the state to go blue.
 

LafayetteBear

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to be clear, what the state supreme court did was to stay his decision, and to stay argument in the appeal pending the actual casting of votes (which truth be told is a little weird)
Double A: So the net legal effect of all of this, at least at this point in time, is to preserve the status quo ante (i.e., no redistricting), right? What is the political composition of Virginia's Supreme Court, assuming that is discernible?
 

LafayetteBear

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Why are democrats the only ones who want to ban partisan gerrymandering?
I suspect that a number of Republicans would like to do so as well, but Trump has the final word within the Republican party on both this and any other issue. That will continue until the day that the rats abandon the SS Trump. That would happen at some point before the scheduled end of his term even if he remained wildly popular (it's what happens when the President is in his second term and it's called the "lame duck effect"), but given Trump's continuing stumbles, it may well occur this November, as a consequence of a likely GOP electoral debacle. Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if the Republicans lose control of the Senate. ROFL ...
 

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I suspect that a number of Republicans would like to do so as well, but Trump has the final word within the Republican party on both this and any other issue. That will continue until the day that the rats abandon the SS Trump. That would happen at some point before the scheduled end of his term even if he remained wildly popular (it's what happens when the President is in his second term and it's called the "lame duck effect"), but given Trump's continuing stumbles, it may well occur this November, as a consequence of a likely GOP electoral debacle. Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if the Republicans lose control of the Senate. ROFL ...
๐Ÿคฃ๐ŸคฃNot only are you fat, but youโ€™re a fat retard
 

dpic73

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I would really love to see that happen, but I gotta say that people have been predicting for SO LONG that Texas would turn blue (or even purple), and then being proven wrong, that I am definitely not counting on this until it actually happens.
If these were statewide elections, you might be right, though in the current environment even that looks dicey. When these new districts were drawn, they were counting on the rightward shift of Hispanics to continue, but looks like they've shot themselves in the foot now, haha.
 

Chumpsky

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If these were statewide elections, you might be right, though in the current environment even that looks dicey. When these new districts were drawn, they were counting on the rightward shift of Hispanics to continue, but looks like they've shot themselves in the foot now, haha.
Either that or they were counting on them being in a concentration camp by November.
 

dpic73

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Gdamn I love these threads. We turning Texas blue, babyโ€ฆ.. LETS FN GO!! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
Read the tea leaves dumbass and by all means, bless us with your evidence that proves it won't. Do you have a trans tweet for that?

 
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