Virginia Redistricting PASSED!!
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Did Tim Poole say the same thing about Texas?
Do any of you recognize that having the electorate vote and the majority decide an outcome is the literal point of the democracy that Tim Poole is claiming was ended?
Bro, you need sources who don't take advantage of you.by making money off pissing you off.
I’m selfish? Are you high? 60% of that money is going to entitlements. That’s ridiculous. If thinking people should work and contribute is selfish then I’m selfish af. If thinking free healthcare, food, housing, education, etc for 51% of the country is selfish, sign me up.
I had my annual physical this year. For a Dr visit and a lipid panel it was $387. I have insurance and work. It still costs me almost $400 to get my blood drawn. What are we doing here.
I’m not doing this with you guys again. Go look up the percentages of people on entitlements, look up percentages of immigrants on welfare, etc…. It’s absolutely ridiculous. And for you to call me, a tax paying, not one red penny in entitlement, selfish is beyond insane. Gfy.
That makes Gavin Newsom look so cool.
VA redistricting had to make it through two different legislative sessions (and they had an election between them) and a public ballot initiative. How is this ending democracy? Do you feel the same way about gerrymandering in Texas (without a ballot initiative!)? Tennessee? North Carolina? Or is it only bad when Democrats do it?
My wife and I are in the top quartile of incomes in the country. I am fine paying more in taxes. I want my state to amend its constitution to get rid of our idiotic flat tax.
>60% of that money is going to entitlements
Source
>51% of the country receives free healthcare, food, housing, etc
Source. Including school like public schools is silly.
It sounds like you have bad insurance. That cost doesn't have to do with people on entitlements, it has to do with greedy insurance executives and a healthcare system designed to make a profit. Healthcare companies have publicly traded stock. What are we doing here?
I don't think that is his point. We all recognize that you pay your share, and I admire your story of rising above a teenage pregnancy to raise your family.
I think he was pointing out that those Northern cities you are calling garbage are critical to our National finances. South Carolina is screwed without Illinois,NYC, and California. They pay substantially more into the system, and South Carolina takes more than it gives.
Chicago and New York City would be better off if they didn't have to prop up large swathes of rural areas with a declining rural population. The rural areas are subsidized by paying for roads, bridges, pension payments, etc.
Anyone celebrating this or the Texas action or just gerrymandering in general is a damn fool … period.
just different sides of the same F’d up coin that is killing the country. But, go ahead … proceed.
idiots, the lot of you.
just different sides of the same F’d up coin that is killing the country. But, go ahead … proceed.
idiots, the lot of you.
And that's why Democrats tried to pass a law outlawing it, but Republicans refused to vote for or even entertain. They were so ready to gerrymander in Texas.
I hate it, but what exactly should the Dems have done? Also, at least the Dems put it to a vote of the electorate.
C'mon man, this is not a fight anybody asked for and we would have gladly left well enough alone if this insanely corrupt administration didn't try to bulldoze their way to a mid-term result they don't deserve. If you're mad, address the correct side please.
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Trump supporters are not people. Trump supporters are not Americans. Trump supporters are enemies of the state.
Trump supporters are not people. Trump supporters are not Americans. Trump supporters are enemies of the state.
the whole rigged elections theme really never ceases to be tedious ********
You don’t have google?
As a share of federal tax revenue, entitlements take up a very large portion:
- Roughly 60%–70% of federal tax revenue goes to major entitlement programs in recent years.
- The biggest pieces are:
- Social Security: ~20–25%
- Medicare & Medicaid: ~25–30% combined
- Other entitlements (unemployment, SNAP, etc.): a smaller share
Oh you're including Social Security and Medicare. Do you think old people should die in the streets?
It really does. The funny part to me was the "extraordinarily brilliant person" line
Totally anecdotal, I acknowledge that, but I firmly believe there are people on SS, Medicare/medicaid that shouldn’t be. This acquaintance of my has a ex-wife who is a complete drain on everything. When I first met them, I had her pegged as a hypochondriac narcissist c* … and I was right.
Anywhoozie … a few years before we met them, she was apparently in a car accident and had a “Traumatic Brain Injury”. This rendered her “disabled” and “unable to work”. As a result she qualified for partial SS. It was all complete BS, she never held down a job before her accident because either the boss was mean, or the commute was long, the customers were rude or it was a random Tuesday.
Now I’m fully aware that C*s like her are the minority, but I also believe that we pay out billions in entitlements every year that we shouldn’t.
I also think there are WAY too many people on welfare and that there should be a time limit on the amount of time a person can remain on government assistance …..
Buuuuuuuuuuut I also believe that we are staring down the barrel of a Great Depression period of time due to AI. Conservative estimates is that AI combined with robotics will take over +80% of all jobs … globally … if/when that comes to fruition that’s A LOT of people with no way to sustain themselves. If there isn’t so form of “Universal Income” … then “Eat the Rich” may have a different meaning than it does today.
oh no! The trans-communnista cant debate the subject matter of the video but just make little juvenile comments about the guy commenting on the video.
Guess the lefty tards forgot when they did the same in 2000,2004,2016, and 2024...
You couldnt wait until nov 2024 either...I sure do LOVE all of this winning!! I can't wait until November!
No kidding. Is this ^^^^ legit? I thought they had litigated this prior to the election. (??)
If it's legit, they'll have to appeal and try to get the trial judge's ruling reversed. The argument that it is unconstitutional is just a bit harder to make, given that both the Virginia legislature and Virginia voters came out in favor of it.
Show me my posts confidently predicting a victory by Harris in 2024. She was a last minute substitute, so there was certainly considerable doubt that she could prevail under those circumstances.
Just stop. You posted on BWI that Harris would win over Trump numerous times. You supported the dumba$$ as well. You're also dumb enough to post that Newsom is a good governor. Arguably, the worst governor in the history of California.
It is legit, though more of the same, from the same judge. I suppose he's taking the position that now he has a more live and less hypothetical case, and that the certification is a separate action subject to injunction. Or more likely, he's just a hack.
What's a little mystifying to me in the ordinary course is how this guy thinks he still has jurisdiction. My usual understanding is that an appeal in a case deprives a lower court of jurisdiction, and the prior decisions were appealed (and I believe are set for argument within the week?). I know VA law can be really quirky on matters of process, but color me stumped.
To my note, there are 3 issues that I believe are before the VA supreme court, and I have no idea how carl cannon at rcp thinks this gets to scotus:
1. the special legislative session which authorized the referendum was called for a different purpose, which may not be kosher under va law.
2. VA law requires a certain passage between authorization of the referendum and the voting date, which did not occur here if the voting date is deemed to have begun on the first day of early voting.
3. VA law requires that referendum questions be presented in neutral and nonmisleading language, and the "restore fairness' phrasing (which frankly sorta amazed me as actual ballot language even before i knew of this requirement) doesn't meet that standard.
I offer no views on the merits of any of these other than a baseline skepticism. But I don't think "well they voted for it" standing alone carries the day if the courts deem it inappropriate for them to have been voting in the first place.
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The ruling by this judge will be overturned.
I’ve never listened to this guy before but holy s*** does he pander to people who have no critical thinking skills.
— classic begin with hyperbole to grab the idiot’s attention (“Democrats have ended democracy”)
- Introduces data (45 R / 55) to create the perception that a large population was victimized, ignoring that Texas voted ~55 / ~ 45 for Trump (ie, same logic applies)
- Red herring with illegal immigration (no prof that illegal immigrants vote)
- This man loves his fish.. another red herring with geography - look at how map A differs from map B!! Ignoring the net impact is the same from population / net votes..
And that was all from 5 minutes. @TigerRagRob have you ever wondered how a nation allows a dictator to take control? It’s because they purge the intellectuals and leave behind the dumbasses like you who fall for propaganda.
Please provide even one of those posts, Captain Houseboat. I supported Harris to be sure. Who except Trump Cultists would not have done so? We now see the result of your (and your fellow cultists') choice to vote for the Pedophile in Chief. And Newsom has been a good governor. You just happen to be a Trump Cultist, and are butt hurt that Newsom has trolled your Orange Demigod mercilessly. Stiff upper lip, Sparky. It will get steadily worse from here on out. November will be particularly difficult for you.
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Nah, this judge tried to block it before, and the state Supreme Court overruled them
Double A: I have not followed the Virginia litigation anywhere near as closely as you, and I have to agree with you in being mystified as to how this trial judge thinks he retains jurisdiction over the case while it is on appeal. We'll just have to wait and see what the appellate court does, but if I was on that court, I might be just a little miffed at this lower court judge for trespassing on my prerogative.
With respect to the 3 issues you mentioned, the definition of "voting date" is the issue I find most intriguing. I would normally consider Election Day to be "voting day," but early voting authorizes voters to cast valid votes prior thereto, and the referendum should arguably be authorized before ANY voting takes place. It should be interesting to see how the appeals court rules on this issue. The term "restore fairness" does, indeed, strike me as conclusory, and as a departure from the usual, dry and technical verbiage of ballot propositions. As to stating the purpose for which a special session is called, I am not familiar enough with Virginia law to express an opinion on the level of specificity required for the notice of the special session. Isn't there a statute on this specific subject and, if so, are there not any Virginia cases construing it?
Finally, I agree that the voters voting for it certainly will not carry the day if the appeals court finds that one or more of the above mentioned requirements has not been met.
"Red herring with illegal immigration (no prof that illegal immigrants vote)" You do know that people have been arrested and deported for doing just that dont you? These blue states issue them a driver license which they used to go vote then. There are reasons the left doesnt want to cleanup voter rolls and oppose any attempt to make elections fair and safe. Take illegals out of the census and allow only legal citizens to vote with no mail-in ballots and the left wont win a national election and the Pubs would run congress with a healthy majority....
They should not be shocked. They should be agreeing with them.