Not much left out there as a good backup option right now.
It isn’t that simple for these majority of kids. Would you turn down an additional $500K to $1M? I can understand completely why a kid wouldn’t want to.I’d choose the school I liked best and commit. Or I’d expect the school to find someone else if I took too long. Honestly.
He didn't say he wouldn't get paid, he just wouldn't receive the whole contract amount.A good agent won't allow their client to sign a contract where, if they get hurt, they don't get paid. I don't like it, but the agent is looking out for the guy if this is true. Also, I don't want to be known as the school that does that. Every agent will stay away.
CMP just isn’t made for this cutthroat business. But if he loses out on Freeman, it’s all but guaranteed next year will probably suck anyway so he won’t have to deal with it much longer.Matt just reported things have broken down with Freeman and his agency. Doesn’t know where things are going from here. Thoughts about accuracy of that?
Do you go by Frosty Tips?The problem isn’t other schools. Our NIL deal for Freeman has a minimum games played clause to collect the total contract. Freeman’s agent didn’t like that and that’s what has caused the delay. It’s not competition from another school, just his agent not wanting that clause in the contract and our staff not budging. From my understanding it’s been taken care of now, so as far as I’m concerned pencil Freeman in as our starting 4.
He will have to find a diamond in the rough at the four that exceeds expectations. Last year our weakest position was the 4 and it looks like it will be againCMP just isn’t made for this cutthroat business. But if he loses out in Freeman, it’s all but guaranteed next year will probably suck anyway so he won’t have to deal with it much longer.
Almost like it would have been nice if we had a GM to foresee this happening.Again I’ll say should have taken Rancik
1.) Wanted to be here and was ready to commit
2.) Better skillset match and fit for other existing pieces
3.) No history of injuries the same way Freeman has
I hope this doesn’t come back to haunt the staff, because power forwards with the versatility we need are not easy to find.
How then do you avoid Quaintance situations? I can’t blame the schools for protecting themselves against players who can’t or won’t play.A good agent won't allow their client to sign a contract where, if they get hurt, they don't get paid. I don't like it, but the agent is looking out for the guy if this is true. Also, I don't want to be known as the school that does that. Every agent will stay away.
It’s kinda slim pickings out there right now, unless there’s some PF who hasn’t hit the portal yet.He will have to find a diamond in the rough at the four that exceeds expectations. Last year our weakest position was the 4 and it looks like it will be again
If I’m Pope I’m begging those “Stokes-only” boosters to make that the Momcilovic only money and hammer hard in that direction at this point. No more Stokes, no more FreemanIt’s kinda slim pickings out there right now, unless there’s some PF who hasn’t hit the portal yet.
The problem isn’t other schools. Our NIL deal for Freeman has a minimum games played clause to collect the total contract. Freeman’s agent didn’t like that and that’s what has caused the delay. It’s not competition from another school, just his agent not wanting that clause in the contract and our staff not budging. From my understanding it’s been taken care of now, so as far as I’m concerned pencil Freeman in as our starting 4.
He needs to do something if he whiffs on Freeman. His job depends on it right now. Beg if you have to.If I’m Pope I’m begging those “Stokes-only” boosters to make that the Momcilovic only money and hammer hard in that direction at this point. No more Stokes, no more Freeman
How many times can you be wrong on just one subject . EmbarrassingThe problem isn’t other schools. Our NIL deal for Freeman has a minimum games played clause to collect the total contract. Freeman’s agent didn’t like that and that’s what has caused the delay. It’s not competition from another school, just his agent not wanting that clause in the contract and our staff not budging. From my understanding it’s been taken care of now, so as far as I’m concerned pencil Freeman in as our starting 4.
Then, if money was my primary concern, I would go ahead and choose the school offering me the extra million. Seriously. If money is the objective the choice is even easier — take the money. It doesn’t take days or weeks. That **** is just for attention.It isn’t that simple for these majority of kids. Would you turn down an additional $500K to $1M? I can understand completely why a kid wouldn’t want to.
I don't know that you can right now. I don't blame schools either, but on the other hand, you want your guy to get his money if he blows out a knee playing for you.How then do you avoid Quaintance situations? I can’t blame the schools for protecting themselves against players who can’t or won’t play.
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I think it would be entirely reasonable to put in a clause that if you are deemed medically healthy and refuse to play, you don’t get paid. I also think any agent or player refusing to sign such an agreement plans to **** you over and isn’t worth recruiting.I don't know that you can right now. I don't blame schools either, but on the other hand, you want your guy to get his money if he blows out a knee playing for you.
I think you pay them what it takes to get them here for the next year or two, then hope change comes (I think it will) soon. I don't want UK to be taken advantage of. I don't like the way things are, but we need the best players we can get.
I wasn’t pleased to hear that. Should have taken Rancik. Put the onus on Freeman.That's twice bc the staff could have landed Jeremiah Wilkerson. He's got some offense. Hopefully, the staff knows ultimate fit.
Both Rancik and Wilkerson are usually guys you want on a roster, so hopefully that means we're gonna be better than I expect. Pope turning guys away!!!
100% agree if you're healthy and refuse to play.I think it would be entirely reasonable to put in a clause that if you are deemed medically healthy and refuse to play, you don’t get paid. I also think any agent or player refusing to sign such an agreement plans to **** you over and isn’t worth recruiting.
Getting injured on the job is something else entirely.
Miamians hate their city, but its where the money is. I've lived in South Florida for 57 years and I dread going into the cityCan’t blame him, I’d move to Miami.
If we got all them we still would not be the best SEC team . Florida brought back all their studsThe sad thing is, even with Rancik/Freeman, Kentucky probably still isn’t in the top 3 in the SEC and maybe even if we picked up Stokes I wouldn’t even think we’re the preseason favorites.
CMP is working on such a slim margin of error that losing both Rancik and Freeman without pulling off a miracle like Momcilovic will probably lead us to struggling to stay in the top half of the SEC.
I hate to say it definitively, since anything can change the outcome, even miracles, but CMP might be a dead man walking if he whiffs on both Rancik and Freeman.
You gotta pull off Freeman, coach. Your future likely depends on it.
I wonder if you could offer a balloon incentive over two years for players with at least two years of eligibility. It’s definitely a dilemma that’s gonna require a legal solution. You can’t have players taking millions to shut it down. But you’re right about players needing some protection for legit injuries.I don't know that you can right now. I don't blame schools either, but on the other hand, you want your guy to get his money if he blows out a knee playing for you.
I think you pay them what it takes to get them here for the next year or two, then hope change comes (I think it will) soon. I don't want UK to be taken advantage of. I don't like the way things are, but we need the best players we can get.
I hate missing on Goode and Rancik. Damn.Freeman has Pope by the balls now. Obviously all recruits and agents are leveraging the amount they can get, the market is shrinking with starting level players. Goode being off the market really hurts now. If they could have gotten Rancik to commit I would have called Freeman and said you have until the end of the day to accept or we will continue to recruit you after this commitment at a far less amount.
I don't know, sounds like there is some validity to what he says. Matt Jones thought he was going to sign today. Why didn't he. What would be the hold up, or just maybe its some stipulation in the contract? If Freeman immediately turns around and commits to another team, then you can say UK was outbid.How many times can you be wrong on just one subject . Embarrassing
So Pope is Popeing his pants again?
It’s why I think destiny is pulling against him. Everything, even if he managed to pull the portal jackpot while getting Stokes, is working against his favor going into next year. Our in-state rival is spending absurd money on a team while there are multiple SEC foes who will likely have much better teams than us.If we got all them we still would not be the best SEC team . Florida brought back all their studs
So what’s up now? Jones say he has another higher offer from one of St John’s or Tennessee. He doesn’t know where it goes now?lol, not ballsy. I just share what I hear, and when I hear something concrete from people I trust I’m not afraid to share it. Only the trolls try to say I claim to be an “insider” when I definitely don’t. I don’t have a twitter or instagram and I don’t go on there to check anything so my only information is from this message board and the people I talk to in my network. Trolls will be trolls though, I’m just a fan who loves the sport.
Matt just reported things have broken down with Freeman and his agency. Doesn’t know where things are going from here. Thoughts about accuracy of that?
Pope getting played again, I hate NILI would summarize it as, Freeman's agent is wanting more money I think St Johns is willing to offer more. So now it's on Pope to counter or lose out.
Tennessee already has a 4. St Johns made an offer greater than ours according.
Will Pope be willing to match St Johns?
What choice does he have? CMP is desperate, he either matches the offer or fall on his sword and lose his dream job the end of next season.I would summarize it as, Freeman's agent is wanting more money I think St Johns is willing to offer more. So now it's on Pope to counter or lose out.
Tennessee already has a 4. St Johns made an offer greater than ours according.
Will Pope be willing to match St Johns?
The sad thing is, even with Rancik/Freeman, Kentucky probably still isn’t in the top 3 in the SEC and maybe even if we picked up Stokes I wouldn’t even think we’re the preseason favorites.
CMP is working on such a slim margin of error that losing both Rancik and Freeman without pulling off a miracle like Momcilovic will probably lead us to struggling to stay in the top half of the SEC.
I hate to say it definitively, since anything can change the outcome, even miracles, but CMP might be a dead man walking if he whiffs on both Rancik and Freeman.
You gotta pull off Freeman, coach. Your future likely depends on it.
No one has offered more IMO and I believe he commits here. We should find out tomorrow.So what’s up now? Jones say he has another higher offer from one of St John’s or Tennessee. He doesn’t know where it goes now?
Yes, just like getting Diallo when he wanted Wright. Some of the things you all make up are hilariousSounds like Pope should have taken Rancik when he (supposedly) had the chance to do so. He seems to have a habit of waiting indefinitely on the guy he wants despite repeatedly being left at the alter.
Totally agree. I will go as far as to say Pope needs to offer Rancik more money to come to UK and tell Freeman goodbye. Grow some balls Mark.Again I’ll say should have taken Rancik
1.) Wanted to be here and was ready to commit
2.) Better skillset match and fit for other existing pieces
3.) No history of injuries the same way Freeman has
I hope this doesn’t come back to haunt the staff, because power forwards with the versatility we need are not easy to find.