Nitpicking a little, but wouldn’t the kid who took a grey shirt be ahead of Kennedy?
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Totally agree, at least Estrada seems to have heart and doesn’t quit in matches. Him at 149, Block at 157 is probably best for their body types.
Great. Now I’m questioning my stance. Thanks a lot.
Well obviously Brands knew. The point was we're discussing Jordan Williams and I thought since his court case was recently settled, it was relevant to the conversation.Umm. When u refer to it as “some court case”. And “apparent bar fight” makes it sound like it was something that wasn’t known. If they knew about it all last summer before he was even in school I don’t know why the settlement would b why they sent him packing. Maybe it was. Or maybe it was the season long effort. Have a nice day.
Some may or may not have known that occurred. Regardless, it was likely a factor eventually in totally evaluating him. I think it was the effort, or lack thereof that ultimately got him sidelined. We all know he's better than VV, but effort matters.
You have a good day as well.
Doubt he was trying to fill out the disastrous year he went 141. Agree, he will never look thick and muscular unless he hits the juice hard, but 157 on his frame is still very lean.
Agreed, I don't love ME at 157. Maybe he surprises us, but I would rather bring in a proven guy/young hammer and have Estrada for solid depth at 149/157.
It was plastered all over this board that he got arrested last summer and everybody was speculating if he would b in or not. They still fought to get him on the team with the incident and his history. I’m going to go out on a limb and say the settlement had little to no effect on the decision when they shut him down knowing he’s a better option. Several on here have hinted he wasn’t living the life. I’m guessing an ultimatum was given and he didn’t get it done.
Even though Block is lanky, according to some guys on the team, he’s the strongest pfp guy on the team in the off season when not cutting. I think he could be strong enough to handle 157.
If the options are block/estrada and 49/57 in some fashion block gets to choose what he feels is best regardless. With results to this point can’t see Estrada scoring significant points at either weight.
He would be leaving practice daily under which isn't ideal
No idea, but I wouldn't have cared then and I don't care now. That would have been Gable's problem, now Jordan Williams & Company are their problem. They handled it like most Coaches would I believe, pristine background or not. And I'm certain they were privy to the "details" from the onset. (maybe JW got some extra Carver step work in because of it......no idea, but if he did it must have tired him out for the season).
What do you think Tom thought of Bailey during his matches?
If someone convinces Bailey to start pulling the trigger rather than faking doubles, he’ll be unstoppable, imo. He’s so much quicker than most opponents that many don’t even react.
LOL!!! He couldn't commit to staying out of the bars...
Tom didn't choose VV over JW...JW chose to be the guy he's always been. He wasn't an option, but Tom took the high road when he announced VV was the guy for BTT.
Williams showed more fight in IC bars than he did on the wrestling mat. He is less of an option than AJ.
If the only thing left behind door #3, please close the door and walk away.
This is one case where we like our guys is my preference.
I have no inside info but a few on here that generally know what they’re talking about have alluded to 149 being his best weight. I’m just coming at this frim the perspective that if he’s not a hyper responder and gaining weight is hard he’ll have to spend more time and effort doing that vs wrestling hard.
I have final coaches' rankings for 2023 - 2026. But the problem with that is illustrated this year where Iowa had fewer ranked than qualified. For this I used seeds as that is effectively their rankings going into the tournament.
Iowa had by far their best performance relative to their seeds in the 33 seed era.
For finish vs seed I used the mid-point of the range when the range was different than the seed range and zero when it was not.
For example, all wrestlers who were seeded 9 through 12 and lost in the blood round had 0 deviation, but if one finished in the round of 16 (13th through 16th) they are credited with finishing at 14.5 and their finish vs seed equals seed minus 14.5. I point this out because it means the sum of all deviations across a tournament is often slightly different than zero.
We had a great NCAA tourney relative to our seeds. Part of the reason our seeds were low was because Ferrari & Arnold didn't wrestle enough matches, and partly because guys like Block and Keuter looked mediocre most of the season. I'll take a crappy NCAA performance like 2021.I have final coaches' rankings for 2023 - 2026. But the problem with that is illustrated this year where Iowa had fewer ranked than qualified. For this I used seeds as that is effectively their rankings going into the tournament.
Iowa had by far their best performance relative to their seeds in the 33 seed era.
For finish vs seed I used the mid-point of the range when the range was different than the seed range and zero when it was not.
For example, all wrestlers who were seeded 9 through 12 and lost in the blood round had 0 deviation, but if one finished in the round of 16 (13th through 16th) they are credited with finishing at 14.5 and their finish vs seed equals seed minus 14.5. I point this out because it means the sum of all deviations across a tournament is often slightly different than zero.
I am going to roll with you on this because you keep on getting likes from "Blocksj." Personally, I think RB just needs to build on the NCAA result and get to where he can be more consistent. There were times he looked like a contender and others where he looked like an 0-2 guy at nationals. He is a little bit like Kennedy who found himself at NCAAs in 2025.
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Look what I found. Turns out I did have pre-season intermat rankings for 2023 - 2026. Combining that with my expected points model and you get this.
Look what I found. Turns out I did have pre-season intermat rankings for 2023 - 2026. Combining that with my expected points model and you get this.
Estrada is hand fight head to head for 6 minutes type. Boring but some can win that way like Lugo or Nelson Brands. Estrada going to need a go to move in the last minute like they had. Maybe not JW but I wish Hawks would get someone to at least compete for 57.
Nice pickup....couldn't imagine relying on the portal to stay in the race for a team trophy year after year. Gotta do what ya gotta do i suppose. Portal U.
Yeah, but which scoring method(s) was used for these expected and actual points?@Cali_Nittany1 @WillieTheBrain
Look what I found. Turns out I did have pre-season intermat rankings for 2023 - 2026. Combining that with my expected points model and you get this.
I can't imagine being the fan of the best team and still being so insecure you have to get validation elsewhere.