FC/OT: Oregon struggling with enrollment?

RolexKong

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My son is looking at Oregon. None of their test scores, gpa or merit $$$ makes any sense. It looks like mismanagement from an admissions side of things. Additionally Eugene is earning the mini Portland rep among the locals. Pretty campus, nice area visually, terrific facilities yet something doesn’t add up. Corvallis is similar to PSU so I was biased on that visit to OSU on the same day as Oregon. Frankly, it’s not surprising they are having financial issues. There’s money to be made by the town and gown - we know how that works.
Looking at some numbers over the last ten years"

1. number of applicants to UO has roughly doubled. Suspect that much of that is attributable to taking the Common App, but impossible to quantify.

2. acceptance rate has gone from the mid 70s to the mid to high 80s.

3. admissions yield has dropped from 22% to 14%, (moving in the opposite direction of its football program)..

Roughly 45% of students are from out-of-state. It is test optional, so it's test scores are inflated.

UO has always been considered to be a safety school for kids applying to UC and/or UW. In view of the linked missive, I'd advise staying away from it.
 

Binder74

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That's amazing. U of O is the flagship university for Oregon and they don't have an engineering program. I didn't believe it so I went to their website and it's true. I don't know how they could be considered an AAU quality school without even offering BS programs in engineering.
But they play high level football and have the best uniform collection in the country.
 

SkiSkiSki

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By far one of the coolest states in the Union and Portland is an excellent city. Lots to do, see, experience in every direction. Great coast, high desert, Bend, Mountains, etc. etc. oh, and Tillamook Cheddar cheese As well as ice cream.

Where do you live?

Portland is a most excellent city! EEE-LEET even!

Overview of Crime in Portland, Oregon

Portland has a crime rate of 62 per one thousand residents, making it one of the highest in America. Your chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Portland is one in 16.

Portland has a notably high crime rate, which is a significant concern for residents and visitors alike. The following sections provide detailed statistics on both violent and property crimes in the city.

General Crime Rate​

  • Overall Crime Rate: 62 per 1,000 residents
  • Chance of Victimization: 1 in 16

Violent Crime Statistics​

Portland experiences a high rate of violent crime, which includes serious offenses such as:
  • Murder Rate: Among the highest in the nation
  • Chance of Becoming a Victim of Violent Crime: 1 in 141

Property Crime Statistics​

Property crimes are also prevalent in Portland, with significant rates of theft and burglary:
  • Chance of Becoming a Victim of Property Crime: 1 in 18
  • Motor Vehicle Theft Rate: One of the highest in the nation, with a chance of theft at 1 in 115

Summary Table of Crime Statistics​

Crime TypeRate per 1,000 ResidentsChance of Victimization
Overall Crime621 in 16
Violent CrimeHigh1 in 141
Property CrimeHigh1 in 18
Motor Vehicle TheftHigh1 in 115

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or/portland/crime

 

ApexLion

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Looking at some numbers over the last ten years"

1. number of applicants to UO has roughly doubled. Suspect that much of that is attributable to taking the Common App, but impossible to quantify.

2. acceptance rate has gone from the mid 70s to the mid to high 80s.

3. admissions yield has dropped from 22% to 14%, (moving in the opposite direction of its football program)..

Roughly 45% of students are from out-of-state. It is test optional, so it's test scores are inflated.

UO has always been considered to be a safety school for kids applying to UC and/or UW. In view of the linked missive, I'd advise staying away from it.
I blame California.
 
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doctornick

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At least Penn State’s leadership have built the school to be future-proof. No storm to even weather. Sunny skies ahead. 😃
I’m on a lot of (national) college application sites as I have high school students. Outside of perhaps Ivies, who have a whole different set of discussions, Penn State is probably the most talked about school I see. It remains incredibly popular for people to apply to and attend. Granted a lot of that is due to lucky circumstance - being the only really notable “rah rah” large state school is the middle of the massively populated Northeast combined with having a picturesque, walkable, safe school environment. It’s really not a surprise but despite the best efforts of leadership, the school is not struggling with yield and filling classes.

That said, they can do more to be getting the higher caliber students - outside of Schreyer and Millennial Scholars, they often lose those better students to other schools especially if they are out of state. Offering more merit aid (even token amounts just to make kids “feel good” about the cost) or a second level honors program to include more kids could be helpful in drawing in the upper echelon of students.
 
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Starting soft and slow.
Like a small earthquake.
But when they let go.
The whole stadium shakes......
 
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Warlerski

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Make universities great again. Cut the subsidies. Cut the fraud. Focus on academics. Cut phony majors. Divest semi-pro sports teams. Stop treating students like infants. Raise admission standards. Hold HS’s accountable for the terrible students that they are producing.
While what you are saying is admirable, if all of that is actually done, universities may have no students.
 

RolexKong

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I’m on a lot of (national) college application sites as I have high school students. Outside of perhaps Ivies, who have a whole different set of discussions, Penn State is probably the most talked about school I see. It remains incredibly popular for people to apply to and attend. Granted a lot of that is due to lucky circumstance - being the only really notable “rah rah” large state school is the middle of the massively populated Northeast combined with having a picturesque, walkable, safe school environment. It’s really not a surprise but despite the best efforts of leadership, the school is not struggling with yield and filling classes.

That said, they can do more to be getting the higher caliber students - outside of Schreyer and Millennial Scholars, they often lose those better students to other schools especially if they are out of state. Offering more merit aid (even token amounts just to make kids “feel good” about the cost) or a second level honors program to include more kids could be helpful in drawing in the upper echelon of students.
Over a ten year period, Penn State' acceptance rate has increased from 50 to 60 percent. It's yield has dropped from 28% to 17%.
 
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Patterson825

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Cranberry white cookie cutter suburbs north of Burgh. Makes you an expert on all things Portland and Oregon
Oh no, I can only give an opinion about a city if I live there, apparently. I travel a lot for work, and I’ve been to Portland, Oregon. I said it was a cool area, but you probably misread it while you were watching Abby Phillip on CNN, you insufferable prick.
 

CFLion

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By far one of the coolest states in the Union and Portland is an excellent city. Lots to do, see, experience in every direction. Great coast, high desert, Bend, Mountains, etc. etc. oh, and Tillamook Cheddar cheese As well as ice cream.

Where do you live?
I guess you missed the leaked Pat Kraft audio recording
 

PhillyBillyReprise

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“So we do have a magic moment and we have a great opportunity, and I think we have got to start right now to put our energies together to make Penn State not only Number One, but I think we’ve got to start to put our energies together to make this a Number One institution by 1990. I don’t think that’s an unfounded or a way-out objective. I think we need some things. I talk to you now as a faculty member. I talk to you as somebody who has spent 33 years at Penn State, who has two daughters at Penn State, who probably will have three sons at Penn State, who has a wife that graduated from Penn State, who has two brother-in-laws that graduated from Penn State, and I talk to you as somebody I think who knows a little bit about what’s going on. Who has recruited against Michigan, Stanford, UCLA, who has recruited against Notre Dame, Princeton, Yale, and Harvard and who has had to identify some things that they have that are better than we have and has had to identify some of our problems. I talk to you as somebody that I think knows a little bit about what’s going on in the other guys, and I think a little bit about what’s going on here. We need chairs. We need money so that we can get some stars. We need scholarship money. We need scholarship money to get scholars who can be with the stars so that the stars will come in and have some people around that can stimulate them and they can be stimulated by the stars. We need a better library–better libraries would be a better way to put it–so that the stars and the scholars have the tools to realize their potential. We need an environment of dissent and freedom of speech and freedom to express new and controversial ideas. Basically, this Board is in a lot of ways reactionary because you are more conservative than anything else. That is not a criticism of you as individuals, but I think that’s a fair criticism of The Pennsylvania State University Board of Trustees for the 33 years that I have known them going back to Jim Milholland who was acting Chairman and President when I first came. We need more controversy, we need more freedom, we need more people to come to us with different ideas, we need more minorities. I am constantly fighting the battle, ‘we don’t have enough blacks; we don’t have enough minorities’ everywhere I go, and I don’t have the answers to it, but I’m giving you some impressions. We can’t be afraid, too reactionary to new and disturbing ideas; however, we can’t do some of the things all at once. I think that Dr. Oswald and the new President and Ted Eddy, our Provost, have got to sit down–I’m probably not speaking in turn, I’m probably way out of whack, I’m probably on a page that I probably shouldn’t be on but I feel so strongly about it I want to say it–to sit down and put down some priorities. We have some excellent departments. And I know because when I get out in the field we have some excellent departments that can be absolutely outstanding in a relatively short time. We also have some departments that are absolutely lousy and we have lazy profs who are only concerned with tenure and only concerned with getting tenure for some of their mediocre colleagues.”
Joseph V. Paterno
 

NittPicker

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“Schools are spending up to $20.5 million per year in direct revenue sharing with athletes. NIL budgets keep climbing. The transfer portal is a year-round bidding war. Facilities and coaching salaries are at all-time highs.

This spending makes sense, because winning drives enrollment, especially out-of-state enrollment, which is where the real tuition margin lives. A football program on national TV is the best recruiting tool a university has.”


😞
A quote from a dumb guy we all know. He apparently realized football is a great recruiting tool for the university at large.

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RolexKong

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A quote from a dumb guy we all know. He apparently realized football is a great recruiting tool for the university at large.
Football success launched LSU into the upper echelons of American universities. We Are-----169!!! Lane Kiffen, you're up!
 

bbrown

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Portland is a most excellent city! EEE-LEET even!

Overview of Crime in Portland, Oregon

Portland has a crime rate of 62 per one thousand residents, making it one of the highest in America. Your chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Portland is one in 16.

Portland has a notably high crime rate, which is a significant concern for residents and visitors alike. The following sections provide detailed statistics on both violent and property crimes in the city.

General Crime Rate​

  • Overall Crime Rate: 62 per 1,000 residents
  • Chance of Victimization: 1 in 16

Violent Crime Statistics​

Portland experiences a high rate of violent crime, which includes serious offenses such as:
  • Murder Rate: Among the highest in the nation
  • Chance of Becoming a Victim of Violent Crime: 1 in 141

Property Crime Statistics​

Property crimes are also prevalent in Portland, with significant rates of theft and burglary:
  • Chance of Becoming a Victim of Property Crime: 1 in 18
  • Motor Vehicle Theft Rate: One of the highest in the nation, with a chance of theft at 1 in 115

Summary Table of Crime Statistics​

Crime TypeRate per 1,000 ResidentsChance of Victimization
Overall Crime621 in 16
Violent CrimeHigh1 in 141
Property CrimeHigh1 in 18
Motor Vehicle TheftHigh1 in 115

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or/portland/crime

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MacNit

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By far one of the coolest states in the Union and Portland is an excellent city. Lots to do, see, experience in every direction. Great coast, high desert, Bend, Mountains, etc. etc. oh, and Tillamook Cheddar cheese As well as ice cream.

Where do you live?
Oregon is awesome - agree. But lots of communists are ruining it.