Let's keep in mind for Ruth to win his freshman year he would have needed to beat Reader who kicked Amuchastegui's rear in the finals.
Bo - He just had a few lapses the others didn't.
gotta give him credit for trying a throw on Nate - the failure leading to the points in his lossLapses? Losing to Nate Jackson by a point, his first year in lineup? And then returning the favor? Losing to Myles Martin by two points twice, while beating him soundly other times, including the last second score that preserved the old streak and then pinning him in the NCAA finals?
Pinning Moore, but then only decisioning him twice?
Absent Bo, Martin is a multi-time champ, and Moore is a champ. Those two guys alone, held down his bonus %.
We should all have such lapses.
Let's not forget, higher weight classes tend to have less scoring, so we should take that into account with the lower bonus %.
People conveniently forget how good Reader was that year. Ruth might have won, but would've likely been an underdog, definitely nowhere near the lock people assume.Let's keep in mind for Ruth to win his freshman year he would have needed to beat Reader who kicked Amuchastegui's rear in the finals.
We're comparing Mount Rushmore guys. Nate Jackson probably did more post college in freestyle. Two time All American (5th and 8th). No shame in losing to him or Martin, but Bo was clearly better than both. In hindsight, I don't love the term lapse, but they're data points when trying to split hairs among Mount Rushmore types.Lapses? Losing to Nate Jackson by a point, his first year in lineup? And then returning the favor? Losing to Myles Martin by two points twice, while beating him soundly other times, including the last second score that preserved the old streak and then pinning him in the NCAA finals?
Pinning Moore, but then only decisioning him twice?
Absent Bo, Martin is a multi-time champ, and Moore is a champ. Those two guys alone, held down his bonus %.
We should all have such lapses.
Let's not forget, higher weight classes tend to have less scoring, so we should take that into account with the lower bonus %.
Lewnes was being talked about for the Hodge in the preseason of Ruth's freshman yr and Ruth hammered him. You never know how they'll match up.People conveniently forget how good Reader was that year. Ruth might have won, but would've likely been an underdog, definitely nowhere near the lock people assume.
I have watched that Lewnes match several times. The commentator, Cliff Fretwell, mentioned how Lewnes had not been taken down in "27 years!", then Ed proceeded to take him down four times. It was funny to hear Fretwell talking about the young kid on the edge of the mat, not knowing it was Ed's brother, Edmond. Unrelated, but I wonder what Ed's wingspan is? His ability to get to a leg and pull it in was incredible.Lewnes was being talked about for the Hodge in the preseason of Ruth's freshman yr and Ruth hammered him. You never know how they'll match up.
You sound like an iowa fan.One thing to add, Nolf won one of his, in pretty dominate fashion on one leg.
I have watched that Lewnes match several times. The commentator, Cliff Fretwell, mentioned how Lewnes had not been taken down in "27 years!", then Ed proceeded to take him down four times. It was funny to hear Fretwell talking about the young kid on the edge of the mat, not knowing it was Ed's brother, Edmond. Unrelated, but I wonder what Ed's wingspan is? His ability to get to a leg and pull it in was incredible.
Recommendation: when you see Carter next, tell him he’s a 3x NCAA Champ and see what happens.Technically Carter and Brooks are also three timers....... and...
I have watched that Lewnes match several times. The commentator, Cliff Fretwell, mentioned how Lewnes had not been taken down in "27 years!", then Ed proceeded to take him down four times. It was funny to hear Fretwell talking about the young kid on the edge of the mat, not knowing it was Ed's brother, Edmond. Unrelated, but I wonder what Ed's wingspan is? His ability to get to a leg and pull it in was incredible.
By that logic he is also a zero timer. No better than me.Technically Carter and Brooks are also three timers....... and...
Hence the added …and..By that logic he is also a zero timer. No better than me.