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PirateBlue08

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We tried to throw the ball low plenty. We were awful at it. Our entry passes were late and poor. Hines particularly was poor at holding his position despite his strength. He will get better, but he wasn't great with his back to the basket. Much better on pick and roll and hitting glass.
Was he taught to do it? It’s not rocket science especially when you have strength and the huge frame he’s got.

And were our guards taught how to make entry passes? Obviously not.

And could our coach design effective plays and teach positioning to make this easy?

I have to believe the answer is no. Not sure if it’s because he can’t or won’t. But he definitely didn’t.
 
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HallGuy2323

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Not arguing just asking. Why you wouldn’t want a former player back who knows the system, played decently, and would be cheaper than what he originally wanted ?

knows the system lol. I love you guys who think playing basketball is some sort of rocket science that every coach does something insanely different
 

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Forget all of these lists. The plan is to wait until the last minute and the kids that are not getting picked up are desperate and SHA will bottom feed from the portal and put together a team of castoffs on the cheap. Kids who have a chip on their shoulders and maybe not great offensive skills but willing to hustle on the court and play hard gritty basketball. That is all you can do with a cheap NIL pocketbook.

Probably not a formula to make the dance but an attempt to be somewhat competitive.
 
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dehere23

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Please tell me. Tell me this miraculous system that is so difficult for basketball players to understand.
I don't think it is comprehension, per se. But undoubtedly, some players profile or "fit" a certain style of play more than others. And, some players are a better fit (or not) with certain coaches and the cultures they build with their respective teams. There is definitely a "type" of player that Sha prefers, and Sha definitely deals with his players in a way that is different from some other coaches. Nothing wrong with that. Some of the best coaches in college basketball are notoriously demanding on their players, or play a more demanding style. Others less so. In this portal world, "fit" matters so much, which is why you want some level of continuity, especially with your better players/contributors.
 

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Forget all of these lists. The plan is to wait until the last minute and the kids that are not getting picked up are desperate and SHA will bottom feed from the portal and put together a team of castoffs on the cheap. Kids who have a chip on their shoulders and maybe not great offensive skills but willing to hustle on the court and play hard gritty basketball. That is all you can do with a cheap NIL pocketbook.

Probably not a formula to make the dance but an attempt to be somewhat competitive.
That’s what we did last season and then were fortunate to land Hines late. Look for the same this upcoming season but without the Hines component.
 
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HallGuy2323

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I don't think it is comprehension, per se. But undoubtedly, some players profile or "fit" a certain style of play more than others. And, some players are a better fit (or not) with certain coaches and the cultures they build with their respective teams. There is definitely a "type" of player that Sha prefers, and Sha definitely deals with his players in a way that is different from some other coaches. Nothing wrong with that. Some of the best coaches in college basketball are notoriously demanding on their players, or play a more demanding style. Others less so. In this portal world, "fit" matters so much, which is why you want some level of continuity, especially with your better players/contributors.
A great coach finds ways to coach to his players strengths. Not stubbornly do the same thing every year/game because that’s how he wants the game to be played.

Secondly, there’s nothing Shaheens “system” does that can’t be accomplished by any half way decent d-1 basketball player. Full court press, traps, and patience on offense isn’t exactly reinventing the wheel.
 
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PirateBlue08

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A great coach finds ways to coach to his players strengths. Not stubbornly do the same thing every year/game because that’s how he wants the game to be played.

Secondly, there’s nothing Shaheens “system” does that can’t be accomplished by any half way decent d-1 basketball player. Full court press, traps, and patience on offense isn’t exactly reinventing the wheel.
Exactly. Effort on D and willingness to work hard is really all that's needed to "fit Sha's 'system'". Any dummy can be instructed in about 5 minutes how to run the weave. Dribble handoffs are what we do.
 
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dehere23

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Exactly. Effort on D and willingness to work hard is really all that's needed to "fit Sha's 'system'". Any dummy can be instructed in about 5 minutes how to run the weave. Dribble handoffs are what we do.
But there are kids who have those traits, kids who don’t have them but can develop them with the right HC getting buy in, and kids who frankly won’t do one or both when it comes to playing that way.

A bright spot this year was Sha seemingly targeting at least some kids who fit that profile and extricating from others. That’s coaching. To use a non-Sha example, look at how Hurley got Reed to play this year when it comes to “motor” and tenacity. He was a different kid than what arrived from Michigan and even last year. As another example, Pitino recruited 4 new transfer guards who all came as offense first players, and at least 3 of them probably were never asked to play a lick of defense in their lives, forget about the intense, pedal to the floor style Pitino demands. While those guys all were wildly inconstant offensively, and not nearly as good there as some thought, a reason SJU still had an excellent season was because he got all of them to play 10 times better defense and 1000 times harder than they ever have. Again, that’s coaching.

I worry under Sha what the offense might look like, especially without Clark or offensive rebounders like Payne and Hines. But after this year I am confident Sha is going to target a bunch of guys who will at least play really good D with maximum effort. Which will raise the “floor” on any season and at least give us a chance to have one and avoid two years ago. That’s why I think we should wait till Memorial Day to form any views on what next year may look like.
 

PirateBlue08

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Your point is all sarcasm especially when you say driving to the basket hoping for a foul .
It happens to be a fact. The original point was that we don’t need to feel the need to take a kid back just because he has history under Sha. Our system isn’t hard to learn unless you’re mentally deficient, at least on the offensive end.