College basketball free agency in full swing.

Franisdaman

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Just got an ESPN app update that "Eliot Cadeau and Michigan have reached a deal for the star PG to return for his senior season".

Not even trying to hide what it all really is anymore.

Headlines like that in the past used to just simply read "Cadeau returning to Michigan for senior season".

6'11 forward JP Estrella (formerly at Tennessee) signed with Michigan, too. This season he averaged 18 min, 10 pts and 5.4 rebs. He shot 60% overall and 40% from three. He has 2 years of eligibility remaining.

The rich keep getting richer.



 

Hawkeye1984

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6'11 forward JP Estrella (formerly at Tennessee) signed with Michigan, too. This season he averaged 18 min, 10 pts and 5.4 rebs. He shot 60% overall and 40% from three. He has 2 years of eligibility remaining.

The rich keep getting richer.



In this model, the top transfers will go to the schools with the deepest pockets. Why are you surprised by that?
 

Franisdaman

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Just got an ESPN app update that "Eliot Cadeau and Michigan have reached a deal for the star PG to return for his senior season".

Not even trying to hide what it all really is anymore.

Headlines like that in the past used to just simply read "Cadeau returning to Michigan for senior season".

When he sees players like Luka Garza (5th year in NBA) making UNDER $2.5M it's no wonder he wants to get paid and stay in college as long as possible.
 
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Why doesn’t the NBA just up the rookie contracts? At some point we hit the top of college budgets and it prevents these blue bloods from stacking the decks.
I never understood why the NBA would gamble on the potential of a young player. Give him a huge rookie contract, then if the kid actually reaches his potential he leaves for bigger money and market when his rookie deal is done.
 

HawkInDenver

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Why doesn’t the NBA just up the rookie contracts? At some point we hit the top of college budgets and it prevents these blue bloods from stacking the decks.
That would likely help. However, there are some really good college players who know they are not likely going to the NBA. For those players, they no doubt want to maximize the amount of money they can make while in college. So, yes, I agree the rich are absolutely able to stack the deck in our current environment. The only thing that seems to help is roster limits -they can't take them all so they are limited to only being able to buy the very best.
 
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Rambler Hawk

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In this model, the top transfers will go to the schools with the deepest pockets. Why are you surprised by that?
So it sounds like Michigan is the NY Yankees and Iowa is the Milwaukee Brewers of college athletics….the only thing that may save us is a salary cap, but not sure how that would get enforced.

I hate to say this, but our neighbors to the East in Champaign have some very rich alumni and I could see their athletic budget going through the roof going forward…😕
 

Zach Jump

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I never understood why the NBA would gamble on the potential of a young player. Give him a huge rookie contract, then if the kid actually reaches his potential he leaves for bigger money and market when his rookie deal is done.

You do realize those contracts are slotted?
 

Hawkangler

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6'11 forward JP Estrella (formerly at Tennessee) signed with Michigan, too. This season he averaged 18 min, 10 pts and 5.4 rebs. He shot 60% overall and 40% from three. He has 2 years of eligibility remaining.

The rich keep getting richer.



He will take Lendenborgs spot. I'm assuming Johnson and Mara come back. They can make more at Michigan than the NBA.
 

OnlyTheObscure

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Why doesn’t the NBA just up the rookie contracts? At some point we hit the top of college budgets and it prevents these blue bloods from stacking the decks.
I think this benefits the nba. Kids stay in school longer so the nba gets a better idea of what they are getting.

suppose to be a good draft this year and more teams are tanking than ever before to lineup. I think it’s because kids are staying in longer and transferring to higher profile schools where the competition is greater.

everybody wins.
 
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DukeSlater

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Real shame what has happened to college athletics.
The shame isn't that players are being paid. That was long overdue given the amount of money they--the players--generate for everyone else. The shame is that the NCAA refused to accept that reality, and so the inevitable happened with virtually no rules or rationale, so we have anarchy. I've long supported paying players, but not in these amounts, and not in this environment. The pendulum had to swing, but thanks to the NCAA's greed and foolishness, that pendulum has flown off its anchor.
 

OnlyTheObscure

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The shame isn't that players are being paid. That was long overdue given the amount of money they--the players--generate for everyone else. The shame is that the NCAA refused to accept that reality, and so the inevitable happened with virtually no rules or rationale, so we have anarchy. I've long supported paying players, but not in these amounts, and not in this environment. The pendulum had to swing, but thanks to the NCAA's greed and foolishness, that pendulum has flown off its anchor.
Only thing ncaa can do is tighten transferring.

you lose in court trying to stop private companies or individuals from giving somebody money.
 
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Hendy Hawk

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The shame isn't that players are being paid. That was long overdue given the amount of money they--the players--generate for everyone else. The shame is that the NCAA refused to accept that reality, and so the inevitable happened with virtually no rules or rationale, so we have anarchy. I've long supported paying players, but not in these amounts, and not in this environment. The pendulum had to swing, but thanks to the NCAA's greed and foolishness, that pendulum has flown off its anchor.
Won't argue with you on money generated, out of hand coaches' salaries and them leaving when they want.
But what is the value of a degree, room and board for many that don't make it to the NFL, NBA or any other
athletic thing out there. I agree about the no guidelines by the NCAA. If I remember right, it all started when congress stuck their nose in it.
Still say it's a shame.
 

LaQuintaHawk

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Or we set a limit to what college players can receive from schools and NIL.............
Sounds good.

I like the idea that if a kid has already transferred once, then he can’t be offered more than a 50% bump by another school over his current agreement. That gives his current team a more realistic chance of matching it and keeping him.

So as an example, a kid making $1M at his second school cannot be offered more than $1.5M from a poaching school.

Let’s face it, it’s the deep pocket schools like Michigan that are the problem. They don’t look at mid-major (or lower) kids in the portal, they go after proven talent at major programs and they know they can outspend those schools. They can offer 2 or 3x a kid’s current agreement like its tip money to them. Need to nip that crap in the bud.
 

Hawkeye1984

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Sounds good.

I like the idea that if a kid has already transferred once, then he can’t be offered more than a 50% bump by another school over his current agreement. That gives his current team a more realistic chance of matching it and keeping him.

So as an example, a kid making $1M at his second school cannot be offered more than $1.5M from a poaching school.

Let’s face it, it’s the deep pocket schools like Michigan that are the problem. They don’t look at mid-major (or lower) kids in the portal, they go after proven talent at major programs and they know they can outspend those schools. They can offer 2 or 3x a kid’s current agreement like its tip money to them. Need to nip that crap in the bud.
Honestly, I’d cap it at 10-15% increase. I’d also limit transfers to a max of 2(with the exception a coach leaves).
 

HawkInDenver

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Honestly, I’d cap it at 10-15% increase. I’d also limit transfers to a max of 2(with the exception a coach leaves).
I'm definately in favor of some kind of salary cap for the team otherwise we just don't have a very level playing field. I'm also in favor of limiting transfers to 2 (maybe 1) unless a coach leaves.

IMHO it won't work to cap salary increase per player because they may have been grossly undervalued when signed first deal. Just my $0.02
 

Hawksfor3

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That would likely help. However, there are some really good college players who know they are not likely going to the NBA. For those players, they no doubt want to maximize the amount of money they can make while in college.
Good point. Trent Condon is in line here, and used this point to describe AF's situation.
 

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I think this benefits the nba. Kids stay in school longer so the nba gets a better idea of what they are getting.

suppose to be a good draft this year and more teams are tanking than ever before to lineup. I think it’s because kids are staying in longer and transferring to higher profile schools where the competition is greater.

everybody wins.
The mock drafts have the top 9 or 10 picks to be true frosh. That's who NBA teams are tanking to get...19 yr old millionaires.

I say let HS kids go NBA...let the NBA take million dollar gambles on these 17 yr olds. Why should colleges take million dollar risks on kids that might be Hausen production?
 
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Hawkeye1984

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This is where it is getting absolutely ridiculous. So now the market for talented guards is 5 million dollars…?????????
Iowa’s whole budget is like 10-12. This is how it will wreck smaller schools in a hurry. I’d say all the schools who cannot afford this lunacy just form a collective and stop playing the schools that want to monopolize the talented players so they can buy championships.
 

HawkBall23

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And these guys making millions from schools/NIL are also on scholarship, right?

So not only are they making millions to play sport, all their school fees and whatever else is being paid for as well.


WhyTF would these athletes ever want to go into their sport's professional version?? Their lives will never be any easier or less worry free than what they are right now.
 
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Zach Jump

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Who is running this organization? Courts or the NCCA. Maybe the activist judges should just apply for job with the NCCA since they determine how to run the business.

Every decision makes sense from a legal standpoint.

Do we restrict the movements of anyone else in this country that has not signed a binding contract?
 
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Hawkeye1984

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Iowa makes an elite 8 run and we are recruiting Kyan Evans, while UnConn is signing 5 million dollar guards like Mullins. I am not sure people really understand the significance of this yet….
 
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Iowa makes an elite 8 run and we are recruiting Kyan Evans, while UnConn is signing 5 million dollar guards like Mullins. I am not sure people really understand the significance of this yet….
Same as it ever was. Just with (unverified) dollar signs now.
 

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Why doesn’t the NBA just up the rookie contracts? At some point we hit the top of college budgets and it prevents these blue bloods from stacking the decks.
I said awhile ago that this would quickly start affecting the league when college players didn't need to come out early to start getting paid more then rookies. Some laughed....
 

Kceasthawk@77

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Honestly, I’d cap it at 10-15% increase. I’d also limit transfers to a max of 2(with the exception a coach leaves).
An increase cap will NEVER fly. The courts have already made that perfectly clear. I do think they can enforce the number of times a player can transfer and still be immediately eligible though..
 
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