I've gotten blowback for saying basically the same thing.......that a lot of the anger comes from things not even baketball related but whoever the coach is at the time ends up being the whipping boy. Shameless and selfish?? You betchuh.
I believe a lot of this anger and frustration towards Pope, is because of the last 4 years…
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I've gotten blowback for saying basically the same thing.......that a lot of the anger comes from things not even baketball related but whoever the coach is at the time ends up being the whipping boy. Shameless and selfish?? You betchuh.
I don't wanna play for this nah I'm good. I'm good at making fun of other teams because I love Kentucky basketball. I dunno if we regressed or not, we had an injury to our PG. Without a functional pg it's hard to tell. Yeah it was popes fault but I myself thought Jasper could be back up pg. Played pg and sg in hs. He is a sg though not close to a pg.
Pope had the portal and NIL money to get better players than Golden, Hurley, and Donovan inherited. I'm painting the whole barn.
I love UK basketball too. Which is why I’m so angry at the Pope hire. You can still support the team but call out trash when it is trash. This is how you slide into mediocrity. If no fan cares how bad we are then the executives will keep pushing out garbage.
No, it’s not has nothing to do with calipari. Of course there’s some frustration. Of not doing anything in the tournament. But so many of us wanted a change. At BYU Mark Pope was the worst coach than calipari at Kentucky or really anyone in the last ever except for Billy Gillespie Sutton. It was his résumé. It’s less about Kal days now and more about the fact that our idiot AD that moron hired somebody with a really crappy résumé he just hadn’t accomplished much I mean we’d never hired a coach in the modern era that hadn’t made a sweet 16 at the very least that was Billy Gillespie. All of our successful coaches were final four coaches before they came to Kentucky with the exception of Tubby who kicked butt at some lowly programs. Well then you have Joe Hall, which I don’t know a whole lot about joe B before he went to UK other than he played. There is an assistant coach there and I know there’s just because I’m an alum from Regis College. He was a head coach at Regis College.
Golden though had a resume worthy of patience. That’s the problem a guy with a résumé. The fan base will be patient a guy with notoriety like a Bruce Pearl right now we will be very upset. He’s not winning, but we would still be patient. We would be mostly for the most part of our fans would be saying yeah OK a third year we know what he can do you know that’s the problem with Pope is we can’t say well let’s give them another year. We know what he can do. He’s doing what he’s doing what he does he’s over performed it by just a hair by winning three tournament games that’s it I mean this year a couple more losses and we miss a tournament. I have zero confidence in Mark Pope because he’s done zero to give me confidence if he’s done anything it’s ruined my confidence in him. If we start like we did this year I say fire in midseason do you like these football programs have been doing firing coaches midseason you have plenty of time to find the right guy such a pathetic thing that Barney I mean it’s like a week new coach three days new coach didn’t even talk to other people
So that's what you think, you can just buy a championship? Where are the Boozers? Where is Caleb Wilson? Where is Dybansta? Where is Acuff? All sitting at home with their popcorn like we are
Breaking news: Kentucky fans not happy with Pope after a round of 32 exit and 26 losses in two seasons.
Some of yall choose not to live in reality and I envy it. Sunshine and rainbows no matter what. Almost like you’re children.
Some of yall choose not to live in reality and I envy it. Sunshine and rainbows no matter what. Almost like you’re children.
Lol what is the standard here? Championships and final fours. It's not complicated really. So yes UK fails most of the time to meet that standard
One thing I would imagine everyone could agree on ... if the $22,000,000 number is materially accurate, then the season was a massive failure.
You simply cannot view it in any other terms. It was a huge swing-and-a-miss ... therefore, this season's roster is crucial to get right.
GO CATS !!
You simply cannot view it in any other terms. It was a huge swing-and-a-miss ... therefore, this season's roster is crucial to get right.
GO CATS !!
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Alright Lee Anne we appreciate you posting a deflection post daily of your husband, at minimum, though we need go over some inflection points:
- MP received a job he was severely under qualified for.
- He’s grossly overpaid for a rather poor performance up to this point.
- In the first time in decades, we failed to secure a top 50 HS recruit, let alone top 10-20.
- BYU is doing better in his absence, speaks volumes in of itself.
- He lacks credibility in the basketball world, coaches use his weaknesses against him in recruiting.
- Not known for developing a single big name player, not once in nearly 20 years, not a single top 15 NBA pick nor a collegiate all-american.
- All of the assistants are being fired, even a few good ones to obscure and obfuscate his own weaknesses and failures.
- He doesn’t understand the current college basketball landscape, made horrible decisions last season, he was desperate and brought in players that were essentially hired mercenaries.
- His teams lack identity, it’s basically whoever he can get, you look at the teams in this year’s FF, they have a system each adhere to and they recruit the players that fit that mold, not even all elite players, though each is an integral component, MP lacks the ability to do that.
- He‘s a career underachiever, winning at 63% against oftentimes inferior opponents.
- Biggest offense, he fails as a leader in developing young men, he‘s too passive and weak, that parlayed itself in the teams demise throughout the year, as Iowa State said, they knew they would collapse under pressure, and they did…
Alright Lee Anne we appreciate you posting a deflection post daily of your husband, at minimum, though we need go over some inflection points:
- MP received a job he was severely under qualified for.
- He’s grossly overpaid for a rather poor performance up to this point.
- In the first time in decades, we failed to secure a top 50 HS recruit, let alone top 10-20.
- BYU is doing better in his absence, speaks volumes in of itself.
- He lacks credibility in the basketball world, coaches use his weaknesses against him in recruiting.
- Not known for developing a single big name player, not once in nearly 20 years, not a single top 15 NBA pick nor a collegiate all-american.
- All of the assistants are being fired, even a few good ones to obscure and obfuscate his own weaknesses and failures.
- He doesn’t understand the current college basketball landscape, made horrible decisions last season, he was desperate and brought in players that were essentially hired mercenaries.
- His teams lack identity, it’s basically whoever he can get, you look at the teams in this year’s FF, they have a system each adhere to and they recruit the players that fit that mold, not even all elite players, though each is an integral component, MP lacks the ability to do that.
- He‘s a career underachiever, winning at 63% against oftentimes inferior opponents.
- Biggest offense, he fails as a leader in developing young men, he‘s too passive and weak, that parlayed itself in the teams demise throughout the year, as Iowa State said, they knew they would collapse under pressure, and they did…
-Caleb Wilson was injured and didn't even get to play in the tournament
-The Boozer twins led their team to a #1 seed and 5 seconds away from a Final Four.
-Do we really have to go over WHY Acuff and Arkansas are sitting at home?
-Mitch Barnhart has gaslighted you into thinking UK has the same standards as BYU.
-I'm not sure why you only bring up freshmen. That's not the only way to recruit.
Regardless, I'm not expecting a championship or even a Final Four. However, he's never accomplished anything to be at the University of Kentucky.
Yeah people aren't happy with pope, you can continue to ***** but until we know what our roster looks like it's pointless. I'm not in that part of my life, you only see things one way. I wasn't happy with losing, I wasn't happy with injuries or the rotation. A new roster can change things. I don't want Danny hurley, he turned us down. I don't want Billy donovan he turned us down twice.
The stats ignore that lots of teams got blown out this year and the sec is better last two years compared to ever. Also luck without having a pg, hell even when lowe played he was injured. Probably be different if he wasn't injured. You can just say he sucks, and keep ragging on Kentucky basketball. I question if these fans are real fans trolls, bandwagon fans, cal fans etc. Easy to fake who you are on a message board
The stats ignore that lots of teams got blown out this year and the sec is better last two years compared to ever. Also luck without having a pg, hell even when lowe played he was injured. Probably be different if he wasn't injured. You can just say he sucks, and keep ragging on Kentucky basketball. I question if these fans are real fans trolls, bandwagon fans, cal fans etc. Easy to fake who you are on a message board
Well you better suck it up, because that horse has a lot of beating left. Wouldn't be this way if we had an AD responsive to the fans legitimate grievances. No, instead we get the 'bad fan' deflecting nonsense like this. Stoops and Calipari would all still be here if not for us bad fans........You're Welcome.
"I don't like what people say because they are probably trolls" - you
Inheriting no players. This is the NIL era and its not football. No returning players only handicaps those who can't recruit. Esp when one brags about a 22 million recruiting budget.
I said at the end of my post he gets next year, so not sure what your point is there.
I also don't give a shît about whatever bullshît excuses you want to concoct, there were good teams when Billy Clyde was here like Donovan's Gators. We found a way. Frankly the SEC wasn't great this year, so that's not even a relevant rebuttal.
Injuries......JQ he knew about ahead of time, so that isn't an excuse. Kam was not the difference between this team being a 7 seed or a 3 seed or higher. Lowe is the only one that is legitimate and even then he should have had a backup PG plan in place because we went through this LAST YEAR.
The results are unacceptable. Period.
I’m supporting pope till I see what he does this coming season but I get it why some on here don’t like him. You don’t know what you’re going to get with him. They’ll win a game you think they could lose and vice versa and it be polar opposite. Can’t get whooped like we did so many times at a place like Kentucky. Next season we need to be a top team in the conference and see some consistency. Like I said I’ll support the guy I like coach and hope he can do it.
Since you are the one, what does he have to do next year to prove he can get 'er done? What is the criteria?
I believe it’s because we were supposed to be improving and I don’t see it. Getting flogged for most of every other game to come back and barely beat our opponents
Whatever the criteria is…if it doesn’t work, the fans didn’t say it and they’ll claim they knew better the whole time. Exactly what happened from last season to last offseason to this season. Timeline of events:
a.) Pope ain’t gonna win with these mid major fellers and shootin’ all them threes
b.) Pope needs to add more athletic guys and build for defense
c.) Pope needs to add these fellers that’s already played in major conf’ernces
d.) Pope put together a bunch of ‘o guys that can’t run his offense. Now he’s coachin’ like Cal and I knew it wouldn’t work.
^ Zero accountability for this type of shenanigans. And a lot of the people who pull this stunt know they did it and a lot of us watched in real time. Now they are doing it this off-season with the opposite opinions.
When there is no proof it was 22 million. Who cares if it is, when players get injured or don't pan out then what?
22 Million dollars blah blah blah…
Until someone shows me a team that won a CBB natty by paying 22M we have no precedent to say that’s a formula for such a result. It’s trying to take a dunk but the lights are out and the rim may or may not be where you think it is.
Until someone shows me a team that won a CBB natty by paying 22M we have no precedent to say that’s a formula for such a result. It’s trying to take a dunk but the lights are out and the rim may or may not be where you think it is.
Well we know pope sure didn’t win
I don’t think you buy championships.
Florida didn’t.
UConn didn’t and went back-to-back.
Kansas didn’t.
Gonna have to see it before I believe that’s how it works in CBB.
We don’t disagree. That’s why when you’ve seen my criticisms this year, they had nothing to do with:
a.) studs
b.) portal class
c.) 20M dollar roster
Pope had enough of that to do better than he did with it. I absolutely *speculate* that much of the sub-optimal performance was related to injuries, but I also believe he mismanaged the roster quite a bit and will have to be better going forward.
I gotta say this portal season is something I'm not looking forward to. Pope is under the gun. Him proving me wrong is something I'd enjoy. It just feels like he knows that he can't do this job, so it's just not fun for anyone
I’m with the OP. Give him another year. Started with nothing. No players and a short window. Injuries derailed his first 2 teams.
Good guy. National Champ here which is select company. He’s smart and making changes. Excited to see next season.
Good guy. National Champ here which is select company. He’s smart and making changes. Excited to see next season.
Pope made the classic error of overselling his performance. When you tell people that you want to compete for championships, they will hold you to it. He wasn't honest about the state of the program and his own likelihood of achieving his goals. If you tell people it's going to be a rebuild from the ground up, expectations might be a little different. But he can't recruit well enough and can't coach well enough to consistently win at a championship level. We have too many losses where there was a severe lack of focus and effort to conclude that he's going to get us rolling.
It’s funny all these Pope cock guzzlers keep mentioning “look at all the freshman sitting at home like us” But refuse to acknowledge Arizona has 2 elite Freshman starting for them and Illinois has 1 freshman who is the best player on the team and UConns freshman won the game against Duke for them. Pick and choose to fit the narrative they’re trying to spew.
A good mix of high rated freshman and upperclassmen has always been the formula. Most of the pumpers are only capable of linear, black/white thinking though, i.e.“One and done no work no more!!”
and some of the other arguments on this page are just total nonsense. Like they’re desperate to be positive. It’s ok guys, sometimes things suck and pretending it’s gonna be fine is great way to stay mediocre or become flat out sh1tty.
and some of the other arguments on this page are just total nonsense. Like they’re desperate to be positive. It’s ok guys, sometimes things suck and pretending it’s gonna be fine is great way to stay mediocre or become flat out sh1tty.
Can only speak for myself, but disliking Pope as the coach, and disliking Pope.as a person are completely different things. I like Pope..think he is a good guy. But he has no business being the coach here. We know how this ends. With a whimper. Recruiting, discipline, running a tight ship, ability to motivate etc isn't something a coach is going to suddenly do a 180 on. He is who he is.
Who recruited a player with a major injury, and one with a history of injuries? The recruiting tooth fairy? Kam is the only player I'll give him a pass on. I'll give you a hint. He is having to take players no one else is willing to touch for the asking price. The incessant excuses have to stop.