Lots of Pro Pope Messages Today…

[crashtestdummy_rivals61973]

I don’t believe for a minute that the average person on here by any stretch wishes for his demise in any way, we are collectively brutally disappointed that he was given the keys to a Ferrari and treated it like an AMC Gremlin. The man and for that matter the players are paid millions, it was stated the program is “swimming in money” yet he failed to build a complete roster this past year and is on course to do substantially worse this upcoming season, to not have signed a single top-50 HS player, is reprehensible, at best. More importantly, he failed as a leader of young men, way too many internal issues throughout this season and for me, that’s unforgivable, he’s unfortunately and sadly in over his head.

 

[SenseMaker_Cats]

Apparently if you think this, you are marked off a list to have an intelligent conversation with. Although that’s what Popes whole career has been. Do just enough, just because you want to win a championship in your heart, it’s sadly not enough to get it done. You have to get the studs and then get them to play as a team at a high level. Pope hasn’t shown he can do that, so his results might be “just enough to not get fired”

Apparently I was 100% spot on. You didn’t say what Zaytoven said. You said that was his #1 intention. Wanting to win and not being able to win at a high level are two totally different things. If you think Pope doesn’t want to win, that’s just goofy.

 

[JohnRambo82]

First is being a loudmouth, ignorant jerk like yourself who changes his name after being embarrassed by his old name or band, whichever one of them happened. Seriously you are one of the biggest pieces of **** on here.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Guys we have to give Pope 10 years to prove he’s the next Hurley

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Deserves a 3rd free of injuries.

No he doesn’t

 

[preacherfan]

If Pope was in the real world as a CEO he would of been terminated because his performance regressed badly from his first year and its obvious he doesnot have control of the lockeroom and nobody wants to play for him .

I would love to see some real examples to back up this statement about CEO's being terminated. I can give you one who wasn't terminated and should have been and that is Marissa Mayer. There was a move to remove her after 3 years but she managed to hold on for a total of 5 years. I can't think of a single CEO of a major company who was terminated after 2 years for incompetence. When it has happened it was for other violations.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

I would love to see some real examples to back up this statement about CEO's being terminated. I can give you one who wasn't terminated and should have been and that is Marissa Mayer. There was a move to remove her after 3 years but she managed to hold on for a total of 5 years. I can't think of a single CEO of a major company who was terminated after 2 years for incompetence. When it has happened it was for other violations.

Just read some articles or business shows and you will see ceos as wells as sport executives that are ousted quickly for performance .

Its ok if you believe Pope is being judged too harshly .

 

[preacherfan]

Just read some articles or business shows and you will see ceos as wells as sport executives that are ousted quickly for performance .

Its ok if you believe Pope is being judged too harshly .

I did find this:

Notable CEO Departures Within 2 Years (Recent)

• Laxman Narasimhan (Starbucks): Stepped down in August 2024 after 16 months, yielding to pressure for better performance, says WSJ.
• Steven Moskowitz (Crown Castle): Terminated in March 2025 after a very short tenure, notes Reuters.
• Linda Yaccarino (X/Twitter): Reports indicate a planned departure around July 2025, roughly two years after taking the role, according to Bloomberg.com.

Moskowitz was terminated for something other than performance. I am not sure about Vaccarino. You never know about Elon Musk! Narasimhan was really forced out but not terminated. That seems to be more what happened with Tubby and Cal if you want to apply it to coaches.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

Actually, I did but really couldn't find any. Seriously.

I'll make it easy for you. Pope is a coach so do other coaches or sport executives get fired for performance issues within a couple of years of being hired? Absolutely they do.

 

[preacherfan]

Just read some articles or business shows and you will see ceos as wells as sport executives that are ousted quickly for performance .

Its ok if you believe Pope is being judged too harshly .

The most famous ouster after a short stint was Gilbert Amelio. His performance was horrible.

 

[KentuckyFan1965]

Wishful thinking much Op?

 

[preacherfan]

I'll make it easy for you. Pope is a coach so do other coaches or sport executives get fired for performance issues within a couple of years of being hired? Absolutely they do.

Actually, I really wasn't thinking of Pope. I was honestly asking about CEO's because I see so much incompetence and so few firings. It was an honest question.

 

[philstat]

Wishful thinking much Op?

Just the reality of the situation, it’s not like he’s some new and up comer.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

A little bit

 

[peterpiper09]

No one would ever mistake you for one

You’re correct puss

 

[Bluesbrother]

I don’t believe for a minute that the average person on here by any stretch wishes for his demise in any way, we are collectively brutally disappointed that he was given the keys to a Ferrari and treated it like an AMC Gremlin. The man and for that matter the players are paid millions, it was stated the program is “swimming in money” yet he failed to build a complete roster this past year and is on course to do substantially worse this upcoming season, to not have signed a single top-50 HS player, is reprehensible, at best. More importantly, he failed as a leader of young men, way too many internal issues throughout this season and for me, that’s unforgivable, he’s unfortunately and sadly in over his head.

Nailed it.

 

[FatCatMan]

I don’t believe for a minute that the average person on here by any stretch wishes for his demise in any way, we are collectively brutally disappointed that he was given the keys to a Ferrari and treated it like an AMC Gremlin. The man and for that matter the players are paid millions, it was stated the program is “swimming in money” yet he failed to build a complete roster this past year and is on course to do substantially worse this upcoming season, to not have signed a single top-50 HS player, is reprehensible, at best. More importantly, he failed as a leader of young men, way too many internal issues throughout this season and for me, that’s unforgivable, he’s unfortunately and sadly in over his head.

We’re being gaslit by Mark Pope and Mitch Barnhart. Billy Gillispie never tried to lie to us the way Pope has.

 

[BigBluefoot]

No one makes you support the program next year with Pope still leading it

I support the program, not a coach.

 

[BigBluefoot]

Sure doesn’t look like anything that depicts a pro Pope discussion to me.

Looks like another bashing thread.

Why didn’t you just put this in one of the other 2000 that are on here?

Has it ever occurred to you, that there's a very good reason for that. Take your board policing nonsense elsewhere.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

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[Kyhoward1]

I did find this:

Notable CEO Departures Within 2 Years (Recent)

• Laxman Narasimhan (Starbucks): Stepped down in August 2024 after 16 months, yielding to pressure for better performance, says WSJ.
• Steven Moskowitz (Crown Castle): Terminated in March 2025 after a very short tenure, notes Reuters.
• Linda Yaccarino (X/Twitter): Reports indicate a planned departure around July 2025, roughly two years after taking the role, according to Bloomberg.com.

Moskowitz was terminated for something other than performance. I am not sure about Vaccarino. You never know about Elon Musk! Narasimhan was really forced out but not terminated. That seems to be more what happened with Tubby and Cal if you want to apply it to coaches.

Only dismissed because their name would not fit on company stationary.

 

[Tim0808]

Let's assume that you are 100% right. Then, this will most likely mean that he has a "parting of the ways" next year after the season. UK will go a different direction and we will get a highly successful coach. With the portal and NIL, we will be back on top in short order.

Hall won a title but wasn't always great. He retired. We hired Sutton. Sutton was a disaster We hired Pitino. Pitino left and we hired Tubby. Tubby was Joe B 2.0. Tubby left, we hired Billy G. Billy G was a disaster and we hired Cal. Cal fell off drastically and left. We hired Pope. If you are right, Pope exits and we hire another Cal or Pitino.

I do not think it will be that easy in today's landscape of sports. Coaches do not care about the name anymore.

 

[JohnRambo82]

I do not think it will be that easy in today's landscape of sports. Coaches do not care about the name anymore.

Yeah they do but the name can fade if they don’t keep things in order

 

[Wunky]

If he had credentials when hired, Im sure BBN would have been more accepting and patient. But most feel he didn’t deserve the job to start with, so he has very little wiggle room with success. Most people in general don’t support nepotism or croynism. That’s all this hire was.

Moreover, the fact that Cal’s last 5 years were awful gave Pope even less margin for error. The fanbase wants to win now. They are tired of waiting.

 

[Tim0808]

Yeah they do but the name can fade if they don’t keep things in order

I think you are kidding yourself. Players only care about NIL and getting to the league, so now you can recruit anyplace. And most schools will pay coaches now. So the name is irrelevant.

 

[JohnRambo82]

I think you are kidding yourself. Players only care about NIL and getting to the league, so now you can recruit anyplace. And most schools will pay coaches now. So the name is irrelevant.

Tell that to the ones that’s still kicking ***. Brand matters still. Schools gotta keep their brand going. That’s why North Carolina looking for a coach.

 

[chroix]

That’s cool the way this thread is super different than every other ******* thread on this site.

 

[Tim0808]

Tell that to the ones that’s still kicking ***. Brand matters still. Schools gotta keep their brand going. That’s why North Carolina looking for a coach.

Who is kicking ****? Iowa, Illinois, Arizona, Tennessee, Iowa State, Michigan, Michigan State, Duke, St. JOHN, , PURDUE, Alabama? I think there is only a couple basketball brands in that list. You are proving my point.

 

[L.O.D.]

Dont wish for his demise I wish for his resignation

 

[JohnRambo82]

Who is kicking ****? Iowa, Illinois, Arizona, Tennessee, Iowa State, Michigan, Michigan State, Duke, St. JOHN, , PURDUE, Alabama? I think there is only a couple basketball brands in that list. You are proving my point.

Arizona,UConn, Duke, Michigan state and Purdue are all good basketball brands. What you talkin bout Willis? Illinois and Michigan aren’t traditionally bad either

 

[AJG-15]

I agree . Can’t wait for year 3 of MP.

 

[Tim0808]

Arizona,UConn, Duke, Michigan state and Purdue are all good basketball brands. What you talkin bout Willis? Illinois and Michigan aren’t traditionally bad either

I will give you Arizona, UConn, Michigan, State, Duke but the rest of those schools are not blue bloods. Purdue has had a few good years of late, but how many banners have they won? When was last time Michigan state hung a banner? When was last time Arizona hung a banner? That is what I am talking about Mr. Drummond!

 

[JohnRambo82]

I will give you Arizona, UConn, Michigan, State, Duke but the rest of those schools are not blue bloods. Purdue has had a few good years of late, but how many banners have they won? When was last time Michigan state hung a banner? When was last time Arizona hung a banner? That is what I am talking about Mr. Drummond!

Still good schools and blue bloods mixed in. Kansas and North Carolina gonna be back. We gotta find a way back too.

 

[Tim0808]

Still good schools and blue bloods mixed in. Kansas and North Carolina gonna be back. We gotta find a way back too.

I hope. However, I do not think we will see the Pitino or Cal years again.

 

[Blueaz]

I don’t believe for a minute that the average person on here by any stretch wishes for his demise in any way, we are collectively brutally disappointed that he was given the keys to a Ferrari and treated it like an AMC Gremlin. The man and for that matter the players are paid millions, it was stated the program is “swimming in money” yet he failed to build a complete roster this past year and is on course to do substantially worse this upcoming season, to not have signed a single top-50 HS player, is reprehensible, at best. More importantly, he failed as a leader of young men, way too many internal issues throughout this season and for me, that’s unforgivable, he’s unfortunately and sadly in over his head.

Pope, great human. Not great coach.

 

[philstat]

I hope. However, I do not think we will see the Pitino or Cal years again.

Agree, the landscape has changed too much

 

[Cerberus]

Still good schools and blue bloods mixed in. Kansas and North Carolina gonna be back. We gotta find a way back too.

I think many fans believe finding our way back will only happen if and when we change our leadership from the top on down. President, AD, and coaching staff. Bad part, I just don’t see that playing out, hope I’m wrong!