The ring leaders of the Somali fraud were not Somali. Seems a lot of them were taken advantage of. And my argument has never been all one way or another.
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I mentioned NYC because that’s what your post said that I was responding to. When did I mixup state and city? NYC is definitely one of, if not the highest, taxed cities in the US so no argument there.
big cities usually have higher taxes to accommodate for the larger amount of people that live there. I wouldn’t expect Kingstree, SC to have a similar tax rate to NYC, or even Charleston, because smaller cities don’t need the tax revenue. That being said, I’m no advocate for higher taxes, but I do recognize the benefits at the local and state levels.
fair points. I lived in Chicago for a long time and you are correct they do need more services due to the density etc.
I do find it interesting they are all democrat, almost without exception.
I think there's probably some studies explaining why big cities overwhelming end up being D and rural areas overwhelming go R. I'd say it's probably just the voters in those respective areas have different priorities. How you are raised is a major factor, imo - if you grew up in a R house you probably stayed R, and vice versa. If you grew up in an apolitical home, you're probably going to end up supporting whatever party your peers/friends do until you decide to pay attention and dig into whatever policies you end up caring about. Voters in big cities probably look for more robust social services/public transit/etc because it's more expensive and they need more assistance to make ends meet. Voters in rural areas probably care more about things like low taxes/immigration/etc because they likely don't need to rely on any public transit/social services programs due to familial connections.
That's just a big paragraph saying idk, but it's a fun thought study imo.
Taken advantage of??? What? Why is there always some justification for insanely horrible behavior? I do not get it. 72 of the 78 defendants are Somali. The vast majority were Somali, disproportionately Somalian immigrants. It is what it is man. No one put a gun to their head and made them steal money. This was a complex operation dating back to Covid. These are the scum of the earth. Ring leader or not they were super willing to commit 100’s of millions of dollars in fraud. Everyone one of them should be shipped back to Somalia on their dime yesterday. Hopefully one day I’ll get taken advantage of and fleece taxpayers of 100’s of millions of dollars for nothing.
What a ridiculous excuse
We are importing people with IQ so low they can’t even sniff out the most obvious scams.
I’m not saying all of them were. But I am saying with a lot of fraud cases there are what are called Smurfs I believe. People that the “boss” or leaders of the fraud have sign up for something or do something and they pay them (likely a fraction of the overall grift). Happens with homeless people and money laundering and happens in a lot of fraud cases. Depending on how the grift works they may or may not even known what they’re doing is wrong if it’s a con. (Not sure if any in this situation were actually charged, the ones charged could’ve been the ones on the inside of the operation only).
Sure. But all you have to do is watch that Nick Shirley video to see this isn’t some complex scheme. These people had fake daycares period. He’s walking around trying to enroll his “son” into daycare and no one has kids. All of them are complicit and guilty. One thief ripping off another thief doesn’t make them a victim. They’re both pos thieves.
I think you should do some research into the Nick Shirley expose from both sides of sourcing. He is trying to make you angry and was successful. You’re hating the people you’re supposed to, and calling people you know very little about pos. All the while almost ten times this amount of fraud has been commuted from admin allies and not given to their victims. And almost the same amount of money as this fraud was given to Noem for a commercial with her in it.
All fraud is awful and I hate it. But I don’t connect it to an entire group of people and get angry at all of them. It’s not healthy. But it’s what the people who try to divide us want. Hope for your sake you’re able to step back and realize that it can both be awful, you can want things to change, and that it doesn’t have to divide us and make everything rage inducing and connect to everyone.
you're 100% right. We should put partisanship aside and root out fraud at every level. We, as a country, have been complaining for years and nibbling only around the edges. Maybe Trump/Vance can get this started more aggressively. They won't get it done in one term, but hopefully they can create the culture that leads through the next administration, no matter which party is in control
I’m all for going after fraud, but they haven’t shown to care about it whatsoever unless it’s politically beneficial to them, and even then they’ve lied about its extent and who is to blame. But absolutely game to go after it. Was the intention of the various IG positions as well.
I also agree about the IGs but based on what we're seeing they haven't done a bang up job.
Politicians are going to politic. The old expression "it's amazing what you can get done if you don't care who gets the credit" maybe need to renter our government halls
All I need to know is what he reported was true. That’s all that matters to me. There’s a reason Walz dropped his reelection campaign after this story.
whoa, with all due respect that was the argument I used back in the ICE in Minneapolis days when many were certain of "murder". I asked the same question and pointed out that no charges had been filed, and was excoriated by the left for such a statement.
But, I agree with you..if there's a valid complaint, what haven't they charged the daycare owners for fraud. (or maybe that have and it just hasen't been reported)
Sure, but in one case it would be an administration charging itself (after very publicly claiming innocence all over the news and blocking outside investigation). And in the other, it would be the side claiming the fraud also not charging anyone for fraud, different right?
OP. Here is what happens when you implement your strategy. Shocker, who would’ve thought. What kind of special mental illness do voters in NY have? Hahahahah
Exactly. The problem is when they get to implement those same shi tty policies at the national level.
I think the left knew the worm was turning and it was happening pretty quickly. Hence the “policy change” to open borders. Why else would you open the border, then pay to relocate them to states that just so happen to not enforce voter ID laws, then put millions on taxpayer funded food assistance, healthcare, housing, spending money, etc…. Any reasonable person understands precisely what’s going on. Then stories like this solidify the narrative - she’s joking, but is she? They’ve lost mainstream, moderate Americans - that’s obvious not only in the mass exodus from those states but also the lack of accountability you see in those states. So SF can have 50 square blocks of people shi—ing all over the streets and open air drug markets but if you don’t file for a permit you can’t build a shed in your backyard and the state will fine you. That’s the modern left - and most normal people hate them.
This all starts at home, and is propagated by the government facilitating victimhood, not rugged individualism. The exact opposite of Mamdani and his ilk. Also, the exact opposite of being an American.
You do realize, that's only around 800k people. It's not a huge issue, and yes, get a better job.
Our public schools have become an absolute disgrace since the creation of the NEA. When you have folks like Aaron Maybin having to give funds to the school he teaches at in Baltimore to supply heat, we have a major problem.
Lmao. It's hilarious how libs celebrate cities like Chicago and Philly for a year or two of a downturn. Meanwhile, they miss the last 20 years of horrendous murders and violent crime. It's like patching a hole in a submarine and telling the Captain, we're going to the bottom, just not quite as fast.
FYI, the most dangerous cities in America are run by Dems. Get a clue. 100% of the top 10, and have been for decades. Get a clue. You're sh&t don't work and never has.
Violent crime up 18%, arrests down 43% in Chicago over 10 years https://share.google/cc1Bca0gHIpfBg8A4
Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities in America (2026 Data) https://share.google/8zUT14N4MzP7gomMv
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What is the largest city with a Republican mayor?
Crime declining in Chicago and Philly is part of the wider nationwide crime decline over the last 30ish years. Crime spiked after covid but it was still relatively down to the 90s and has resumed the downward trend.
This is literally the dumbest post I've ever read and you have absolutely no facts to back this up. Charter schools use lotteries regarding students admissions. You are completely fos, and don't have a fking clue what you're talking about.
His post is complete bullsh-t, and he hasn't a clue of what he speaks of. That's not how Charter Schools work.
They only have to use a lottery if applications exceed capacity. Until that point it's first come first serve.
I think it depends on where the school is, where I came from in Pa it was first come, from what I've seen from news reports in NYC it's lottery, I would imagine it's school district by school district or state by state.
Only a moron could take Cali from red to black. And folks want to elect that elitist moron for president. Lmao
Yeah, destroy the state, mock people for leaving, then don't own you are responsible. It's lib America 101. Blame, blame, blame, and hypocrisy.
The lottery is only required when applications exceed enrollment availability and families have to APPLY to enter the lottery.