8 lbs does NOT eliminate technique, but injuries sure as hell can. But, hey, keep hating. It makes this board so much fun!
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What injury did he have all season that prevented him from effectively riding? He didn't injure his finger until the last home dual.
Lmfao, you have to be this obtuse intentionally. There is no way this can be real.
You do realize the original plan when he transferred was to redshirt, correct? He already had issues with one hand coming in and then broke a finger quite early on the other.
I love to go back and forth in many cases but you are literally a waste of time here…
Oh bullsheet. You don't like going back and forth with me bc more times than not you're on the wrong side of the debate. This is another perfect example.
Nasir hurt his finger Jan 30th. Nearly 3 months into the season. It wasn't "early" whatsoever.
The good thing about perspective is delusion is often only perceived by the differing viewpoint. I am not sure you have posted one intelligent thing on this site ever. If it was done, I sure haven’t read it…
you know who never wants a coaching change? people that consider themselves insiders or influencers of a program.
this place is looking like the end of the jimmy z era. a small group of insiders defending everything, and everyone else that lives in the real world that can see the problems.
this place is looking like the end of the jimmy z era. a small group of insiders defending everything, and everyone else that lives in the real world that can see the problems.
So... it's March now. I was told the team was going to peak and the dual season doesn't matter. It's all about March, right? We're the laughing stock of the wrestling world and anyone who defends TNT are asshat clowns.
Why you bringing clowns into this lol
So they are good allowing the Brands bro's to continue to run Iowa wrestling into the ground.....
I don't post a ton but I read this message board frequently and this is the first I'm hearing of a preseason Bailey injury and intention to redshirt him.
The amount of gaslighting and excuses you make for this joke of a season is crazy.
Tom is reaping what he has sown or as he likes to say getting what he has earned. As a coach he has called the shots on planning, recruiting, assistant coaches, training etc. Even things like negative relationships with former wrestlers his own or others in the sport, negative relationships with opponents, negative relationships with referees. Eventually that negativity starts coming back at you making your life harder.
Then you didn’t read enough or don’t retain information well. He absolutely wanted to redshirt, but the hole at 141 was going to be massive if he didn’t go.
The fact you think I made it up out of thin air is comical. You can hate my stances all you want, but I sure as hell don’t lie…
1. let's see some sources about that preseason hand and the redshirting. they can be official or unofficial (a post on this forum)
2. assuming the above is even true, then your do no wrong best boi Brands' plan was to plug a hole at 141 w/ an injured 133 who wanted to redshirt?
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I’m sure you’re a fine young man…and I’m not sure what I did to deserve that. But since you opted to be a fu*ktard, go f*ck yourself! Nothing more idiot boy.
Not my job to source it for you. I don’t care if you believe it or not. It doesn’t make it any less true.
He was the best option at 141, injured or not.
Haha so basically everything you say is true because you say it's true and the onus is on us to fact check your back peddling bs. Ok bud
I'm just going to say one thing to you. The Brands bros were heroes and inspirations to me and I'm sure a lot of other ppl on this board who wrestled. We respect them the same as you do. But there's a time and a place to pass the torch. The current product is a joke. This season is a joke. Next season will be even worse. The reason people are frustrated with you is because you bend over backwards defending this bs.
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My friend, I don’t provide info because I don’t pretend to have any. And I’ve got nothing but love for Chief, Gobblin, and the others who sadly aren’t posting like they used to. That said, I don’t think their absence on here has to do with us “flies on a pile of ****,” but rather because our program has gone in the tank vice what it once was and they are being good men and not bitching about that fact. And perhaps because they have a connection to the program. I don’t think us discussing the programs weaknesses and inability to contend with PSU, OSU, tOSU, etc., has anything to do with their absences. And if you look back historical at my posts over the several years I’ve been fully on the TNT bus…but as of late the tires are all flat and the drive train has gone to sh*t, and i can’t be on a bus that can’t go anywhere. Go Hawks!
Again, you always have an excuse. Now that we **** the bed at B10s I’m hoping you and MSU will quit with the excuses but likely not.Let's not forget season tickets also recently doubled..Did that happen at Oklahoma st? Such stupid s*it I know
Corby, be careful. You told us one day that TNT talk to you and then another day that you’ve never talked to Tom. So your reputation is already a bit sketchy. For all we know you watch a FLO segment and then regurgitate as your inside info…Exactly theses don't know anything and are jealous that I do
. Can't imagine being a grown man and thinking about another grown man constantly these people have issues. If they ever got married they hate life and the dog probably won't even go by them. Some people just suck at life we can't help them all
Actually, that’s exactly what you do Corby which is why that thought jumped into your head so quickly.
You are the one disputing me. It wasn’t like the ONLY place it was talked about was on here. Again, I don’t pull things out of thin air…
As far as being frustrated with me goes, I INTENTIONALLY try to be as frustrating as possible to the Anti-Brands crowd. It is a mantle I carry with pride!
Do you actually tho? You were oddly quiet during session 2 last night when our guys were getting tossed around the mat.
Don't play now, carry that pride into this 5th or worse finish at Big 10s!! Don't disappear on us during NCAAs either
Sometimes real life gets in the way. And who exactly got “tossed around” when I didn’t have time to post?
Peterson won multiple times in wrestlebacks. Ayala lost in OT. Bailey wrestled well til the 3rd against a likely 3xer and co-favorite to win the hodge. Ryder had already lost before I had to cook dinner. Same with Voinovich. Caliendo looked great. Kennedy lost a 1 takedown match to a tough kid. Angelo won in wresltebacks before defaulting. Gabe was the same as Ryder and Voinovich. Kueter did the same as Peterson.
I sure as hell wasn’t hiding and responded to anyone that mentioned me. So far the ONLY bad loss was Ryder in wrestlebacks. And they are in 4th now, for the sake of accuracy.
And I already said that I would back off if they falter at NCAA’s, so I am not going to be a hypocrite if that happens just to satiate you…
Corby posting double time!!! and both of them are a brands....
Was definitely posted on here that he was planning a redshirt to build to 141. And to anyone with eyes and a memory longer than 6months they’d know Baileys had hand issues in the past.
Never once have I said I talk to Tom not once . I said coaches . Man you guys love moving goalposts. You think I care what you people think because I don't
He 100% made it up. There was a hole at 141. They didn’t bring him in to not fill it.
Sammy Alvarez tried to get another year ended up not getting it. Not saying he would of went 141 but could of been a plan to redshirt. if Alvarez got another year
Bailey committed in March. Alvarez in May. And he was always a long shot to get another year.
Oh, and nevermind he wasn’t even at the same weight. Alvarez was at 149.
Alvarez had wrestled 41 before and if bailey was already commited they could of went out and got another guy so he could redshirt will never now what was gonna shake out cause Alvarez didnt get a year but maybe it was a possibility all I was saying
Lmfao. I sure as hell didn’t make it up. It was spoken about on here quite a bit and even discussed by multiple sources right when he committed. The Alvarez deal was a big part of that and when it fell through, obviously Bailey was the best option left.
But, to say there wasn’t a clear intent to redshirt if possible is either you burying your head in the sand or you being 100% disingenuous. Both of which don’t surprise me when it’s you referencing me…
I agree with MSU here- I feel dirty now. The LR guys were likely a package deal so dates wouldn't matter. The plan could have been that Bailey was a tweener and TnT said we will try hard to find a 141 for one year and use Bailey's redshirt. It just didn't work out and plan B was good luck at 141 Bailey.
Then again with my glass half empty thinking- that was too much critical thinking and planning ahead for Brands- Never mind I rule in favor of Spooner now.
Now that was a well written post. I gotta give credit where it is due!
The board is archived. So is basically everything on the internet. Are you going to prove your claim or just keep yapping? There were a few “theories” posted about a redshirt but they were dismissed as generally illogical, given the need. Bailey was by far the 141 favorite for this year from the time he visited and committed.
So go for it. Post the receipts. This is your chance to own everyone.
If Alvarez got eligibility he was going 141 and Bailey was gonna RS for sure. Not sure what the argument is about and I'm not gonna go read all the BS but that was gonna happen
Dear God that would have been a terrible plan. Alvarez was gassing at 149