Live updates: Big Ten wrestling preseeds release on BTN

backdrft76-1

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Am I the only one who hates to see this kind of stuff creeping into our wrestling board? I don’t remember seeing much of it on the old rivals board, but it seems to be getting more prevalent here lately.
Similar things were at times posted to the Rivals board, but those things were quickly cleaned up and promptly addressed with the poster as warranted. This Board seems to be a bit looser and slightly more disorganized.
 
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Eastern HWT

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Yep, was just reading that (albeit, not as early as you, ha!)

Barring a financial stake in Wrestlestat, can't fathom the rationale for abstaining, and the NW no vote is of course interesting.
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Lil Nicky Scarfo

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You’re not the only woman here. I don’t post often, but read daily.
 

Reslo1

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You'll never see growth in it, it's not like wrestling is anything new. For example my wife will gladly watch Penn State wrestling with me on TV. Or go call girlfriend or a relative and talk while I watched the match. She has no desire to ever attend a match, a tournament, or watch anything other than maybe the finals on TV.

She'll go to see a hockey game, maybe a football game, or a concert.

Wrestling is a real niche sport and even many lifetime Penn State alumni fans, barely watch college wrestling, even though Penn State is currently so dominant.
You need more than 1 data point though. Mrs. Reslo isn't a wrestling fan either, but that doesn't mean it's not increasingly popular.


Women's wrestling is the fastest growing sport at the high school level, with over 74,000 participants in 2024-25, compared to 49,000 in 2023-24.
 

Nitlion1986

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You need more than 1 data point though. Mrs. Reslo isn't a wrestling fan either, but that doesn't mean it's not increasingly popular.


Women's wrestling is the fastest growing sport at the high school level, with over 74,000 participants in 2024-25, compared to 49,000 in 2023-24.
My wife hasn't been to a match with me in decades. Both girls used to go to HS matches, districts, regionals and states. My granddaughters don't wrestle but both have gone to PSU matches with me. The first time I tried explaining what a move was or who the PSU wrestler is, or who he is wrestling they have looked at me and said, "pap, I know who that is" or "pap, I know what a single is". They are both fans.
 

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You'll never see growth in it, it's not like wrestling is anything new. For example my wife will gladly watch Penn State wrestling with me on TV. Or go call girlfriend or a relative and talk while I watched the match. She has no desire to ever attend a match, a tournament, or watch anything other than maybe the finals on TV.

She'll go to see a hockey game, maybe a football game, or a concert.

Wrestling is a real niche sport and even many lifetime Penn State alumni fans, barely watch college wrestling, even though Penn State is currently so dominant.
Did she wrestle? My point is as more women are ex-wrestlers, interest may grow
 

HOA242n!

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My wife loves most sports, but hates amateur wrestling. She even likes curling in the winter Olympics, but who doesn't, LOL.
My wife will watch MMA, Muay Thai, or BJJ all day, but absolutely hates wrestling. My older kids (14yr old girl and 10yr old boy) began wrestling before school, then transitioned to BJJ, which they competed in until recently; they can not stand wrestling either. I gave up trying to understand.

I'll be watching the conference championships alone, but I have a friend (former wrestler) coming to watch the NCAA finals with me.
 

Dren007

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You need more than 1 data point though. Mrs. Reslo isn't a wrestling fan either, but that doesn't mean it's not increasingly popular.


Women's wrestling is the fastest growing sport at the high school level, with over 74,000 participants in 2024-25, compared to 49,000 in 2023-24.
The women's program can only help the sport. More eyes more participants. How about a women's & men's dual at Rec same day.
 

Aardvark86

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Certainly fair to believe that women's wrestling can claim to be 'fastest growing' from a relatively lower baseline - pickleball and padel have also made those claims. And certainly fair to expect that growth may continue with more formal programs, potential media content distribution other than monopo-flo, etc. (My tiny HS alma mater - 1200 K-12 enrollment - actually has a program). But at the end of the day, these days there's a huge difference between "subsidized" and "viable" if you're talking about sustainability, it's a long march to the latter category for most college sports. And if a sport is lucky enough to achieve it, then the trick is for the athletes not to immediately decide to undercut sustainability, whether through NIL/revenue share demands (with a smattering of TIX thrown in) or union negotiations (a la the WNBA current labor negotiations.)
 

F7Mello

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Not actually buying baschs argument roe data science. The problem is that the data set is waaaaay to small to have any statistical power behind it. Particularly in you have a criterion like too that can become go/no go without any volume weighting

You'll never see growth in it, it's not like wrestling is anything new. For example my wife will gladly watch Penn State wrestling with me on TV. Or go call girlfriend or a relative and talk while I watched the match. She has no desire to ever attend a match, a tournament, or watch anything other than maybe the finals on TV.

She'll go to see a hockey game, maybe a football game, or a concert.

Wrestling is a real niche sport and even many lifetime Penn State alumni fans, barely watch college wrestling, even though Penn State is currently so dominant.
May be hard to believe, and perhaps they've run away when seeing you, but there are women on the planet besides your wife. Try using binoculars to find them
 

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Not sure why it matters- but I’ve been female my whole life. Hopefully, as girls and women’s wrestling grows, there will be more women on the board!

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Did she wrestle? My point is as more women are ex-wrestlers, interest may grow
I noticed at the ohio state dual at bjc there were a lot of women there. Nice surprise and i agree it would be nice if more were interested in this sport
 
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My wife hasn't been to a match with me in decades. Both girls used to go to HS matches, districts, regionals and states. My granddaughters don't wrestle but both have gone to PSU matches with me. The first time I tried explaining what a move was or who the PSU wrestler is, or who he is wrestling they have looked at me and said, "pap, I know who that is" or "pap, I know what a single is". They are both fans.
Be careful of the questions you ask; you may not want to hear the answer.
 

ccdiver

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I think this every year during a couple of the weeks in March, but can this week possibly be going any slower? It feels like the pre-seed discussion is already a week old, but it’s still two long days until we have final brackets, and then 24 more excruciating hours until we have wrestling.

Then Sunday night the really torturous time drag starts.
 

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My wife will watch MMA, Muay Thai, or BJJ all day, but absolutely hates wrestling. My older kids (14yr old girl and 10yr old boy) began wrestling before school, then transitioned to BJJ, which they competed in until recently; they can not stand wrestling either. I gave up trying to understand.

I'll be watching the conference championships alone, but I have a friend (former wrestler) coming to watch the NCAA finals with me.

I don't know why but when I see BJJ I think of this scene:



To me it has some weird rules about fighting from your back.
 
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LB99

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It all makes the conference look bad. It makes the coaches look too lazy to sit down and hash out seeding like has been done for decades. Then they all complain. It’s just a bad look. I’m guessing this will be the first and last year for Wrestlestat involvement in B1G seeding.
 
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I have a stupid question / observation.

Has the B1G released the underlying raw numbers, originating from the goofy 3rd party rating service, that resulted in the quizzical pre-seeds?
 
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Am I the only one who hates to see this kind of stuff creeping into our wrestling board? I don’t remember seeing much of it on the old rivals board, but it seems to be getting more prevalent here lately.
It’s kind of like locker room talk, some good some bad but they’re still on my team knuckle heads or not (within reasonable exception).
 

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If this is “AI” I want no part of it.
If it's AI they had no idea how to use it. AI needs quality inputs and it improves with better framed questions/inputs. First iteration can be alarmingly bad. Anyway you break down what they did it seems clear that wrestling backups (ducked in some cases) was punitive and so was having limited matches. we can argue the merits of that data. an 8 dual in conference schedule when there's 14 teams isn't ideal either. I guess 5 more in conference duals is just too difficult?
 
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HOA242n!

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I don't know why but when I see BJJ I think of this scene:



To me it has some weird rules about fighting from your back.
Took me a while to get used to it, fighting from your back seems so counterintuitive (and frankly, sissy/unmanly/whatever). My wife and daughter are not going to outwrestle a 200lbs. grown man. But, that man can't do anything unless they can get past their legs and good luck getting past their guard (with ankles intact) unless you know what you are doing; their guard games are really, really good. My son and I are a lot more aggressive and pretty much never pull guard. I love to wrestle, hence my destroyed shoulders. The only time I'll pull guard is if I'm rolling with someone I'm afraid I'll hurt with a takedown or explosive guard pass...or a really good wrestler, who will otherwise smash me.

Admittedly, it's hard to watch someone doing the booty-scooty, even if you like and are familiar with BJJ.
 
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We’re almost within 48 hours of the of a lot of explosions in the BJC. It’s going to be Insane from the Very Start. Let’s Go PSU. Bonus baby….
 
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May be hard to believe, and perhaps they've run away when seeing you, but there are women on the planet besides your wife. Try using binoculars to find them
Women don't watch sports as much as men watch . Sports fans in general don't watch free:folk style wrestling very often. I'm literally know Penn State fans might watch the finals of the NCAAs maybe .
 
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