We're The Laughing Stock of College Basketball
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You missed my point. Im.saying we want to ignore poor.coaching and try to compensate with elite talent. It didn't work with Cal after 2012 and it won't work.with POpe even if he could recruit. We are hollering about talent while ignoring we are losing to teams with lesser talent than we currently have. It's a coaching issue. The talent issue is just deflection.
Its by far a talent issue before it's a coaching issue with pope
also when you say "It didn't work with Cal after 2012" do u mean that those seasons after 2012 were failures?
crazy
I don’t see why this has to be explained to so many people.
UK fans see Sweet 16 and NCAA appearance as some kind of huge failure worthy of a firing a public stoning. Coaching circles won’t see it like that.
To fire Pope right now would send a message to other coaches that fam expectations mean you have to achieve unreasonable levels of success every single year when historically it’s rarely actually been that way.
By giving him a year 3, it shows we’re willing to give a mulligan AND gives him both the opportunity to get it right and the opportunity to prove beyond a reasonable doubt he is not the guy for the job.
I gotta add this to this post so yall don’t confuse me for a Pope hater/love when Kentucky loses type of guy…..
The reason I picked this year for all of us to go was mainly because I was pumped about the Pope era. We spent 22 million right? We were in title talks. Seemed like we were recruiting our a ss off. Everything seemed positive.
I really believed Pope was about to go on a dynasty. Everything was laid out for him. NIL. Kentucky. His ties to Kentucky. This was what I thought even after freaking out when I initially heard he was hired.
I’m disappointed. I give Pope a hard time on here. But in all seriousness I thought he would be better than this. Even if the record was the same. The way the losses are. How can you get spanked over and over? That’s on him and he needs to go or go crazy. Do something.
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He’s not UK material man. No way around it. I’m not making any more excuses for Pope. This is Kentucky, he can’t be doing that crap here. Anyone defending it anymore doesnt care about the legacy of our program and wants us all to lower standards. Keep lowering those standards and before you know it we will suck just like Indiana
They were laughing at us with BCG but they sure weren’t laughing when we hired Cal. It’s time to make the same move and go get a great coach and stop this garbage we’re seeing and get back to being elite again. Nothing against you guys and girls that like Pope, but he’s not the answer just like BCG wasnt. Time to go get an AD and a great basketball coach.
We’re getting embarrassed literally every other game. The blowouts are becoming more consistent.
at least that team was entertaining
Read a post the other day that summed up the current state of KY basketball beautifully.
It talked about how our "historic" win against Vandy. To paraphrase, it was the first victory since forever (can't recall the yr) against a ranked opponent when UK wasn't ranked.
Think about the perspective. That's bc WE WERE ALWAYS RANKED and the opportunity for those type of victories didn't EXIST, nor should they! With the tradition, support, and money we have there's no excuse not to be in the top freakin 25. We are lowering the bar.
It talked about how our "historic" win against Vandy. To paraphrase, it was the first victory since forever (can't recall the yr) against a ranked opponent when UK wasn't ranked.
Think about the perspective. That's bc WE WERE ALWAYS RANKED and the opportunity for those type of victories didn't EXIST, nor should they! With the tradition, support, and money we have there's no excuse not to be in the top freakin 25. We are lowering the bar.
I don’t see how. Highlight plays for that team were few and far between. Unless you found some kind of sick humor in watching freshman Devin Askew struggle to get the ball across half court.
At least Pope’s teams (and no i’m not happy with him and think we should look for better) have won their share of big games. To me thafs more entertaining, the 4 tennessee games, florida, duke, gonzaga last season, arkansas this season, st. john’s, than anything i watched that 9-16 team do.
The only memorable moments of the 9-16 season for me were the tennessee win, and the local kid who’s name i can’t even remember now going nuts on mississippi state.
But watching either team far too often feels like trying to eat glass.
I think I've figured out the problem with our coach fellas! Dude aint got no hair!
Because of MB. With him gone, the chance of Pope being fired increased, but he isn't stepping down until June, so I'd say it's still near 0.
I agree with everything but we have seen the same lack of preparation and substitution patterns in every game he has coached here. He could recruit an all star team and those simple things won’t change. That’s why he must go. I don’t need another 10 loss season no matter the reasons to understand what I see from him right now. His recruiting is pathetic whether he pulls Stokes or not. That is a strictly Peterson/money issue for Kansas and it’s the sole reason he is even coming back here at all.
Pope is here next season. He’ll need to improve a lot if he’s going to be here after next season.
Ironic, that this tweet is from a Kansas fan, who got thumped last night by a terrible Arizona St team.
UK was rolling early, and the damn wheels just completely came off! How?
The coach… That’s how!
The coach… That’s how!
Pope failed the class in Substitution 101UK was rolling early, and the damn wheels just completely came off! How?
The coach… That’s how!
By Pope being overly concerned about his team’s “fatigue”, because they were about to start to break a sweat, while Bucky’s team was busting their *** for him for 40 minutes straight!
Both teams are a reflection of their coach, and that tells you everything you need to know about Pope being a fit at UK.
That team was bad but there was the Covid mess going on and NIL was just kinda getting rolling. So that was embarrassing but even they didn’t get blown out like this team does.
Because people like Matt Jones say it’s so. So shut up and accept it.
Unless you found some kind of sick humor in watching freshman Devin Askew struggle to get the ball across half court
now we get to b watch it with upperclassman
I for one, agree with you. I just don't think an Athletic director is going to look at it that way. I hope I'm wrong.
It's a toxic relationship, one that if it were any family, spouse or friend I would do everything in my power to get out of.
Pretty good to ok average one day, the next there is nothing I like about them and it's 60/40 good enough to keep me from moving on.
If they were just dog crap bad it would be an easy decision, for me - the university - for everyone.
This built in excuse of injuries is not enough, but somehow we make it so.
Pretty good to ok average one day, the next there is nothing I like about them and it's 60/40 good enough to keep me from moving on.
If they were just dog crap bad it would be an easy decision, for me - the university - for everyone.
This built in excuse of injuries is not enough, but somehow we make it so.
Or the 1989 team (Sutton’s last year)
Or 2006 and 2007, which are about like this team. Or 2013. Or even 2023.
This fanbase is eaten up with hyperbole based on recency bias.
Those are just excuses that season was horrific and this one is pretty bad as well
Oh it was bad. But at least you could see they weren’t very good and still tried. They acurallt lost a bunch of close games if I remember correctly. This bunch just…I dunno man. They aren’t very smart. They make bad decisions.
I cussed him out last night yelling at my TV. I’ve NEVER seen a Uk coach allow what he did last night.
I did too! Pope was like a deere in headlights!
The OP is a catastrophist, like my mom. Everything is taken to the worst possible scenario, lol.
And you’re a coward who disappears when things don’t go your way and come back later to act like you are a real fan.
He has been here along time and is a respected member of this board. He was known for being a very positive poster, but even the most positive person can get frustrated with how this season had turned out. I guess you are a glass half full kind of guy and I respect that but right now the glasses is pretty cracked.