Golden can coach

[Coach777]

Lifelong UK fan here and I know many on here won’t agree with but you can’t deny Golden is one of the best coaches in the sport at the moment. If he stays he will win multiple titles and in the hunt yearly.

Today’s game was a reflection on how good he is. UK was the more athletic team but UF was the most skilled team and had a great game plan.
- shut down Owen the hottest player in sec
- runs a great offense with scoring threats at all positions.
- excellent rebounding skills and contesting most shots near the basket.
- the most improved team at this point of the season.
- players have great footwork
- player improvement from the previous year is usually outstanding.

Yes they are beatable but they remind me of what I consider the glory days when Pitino was here, he gets the most out of this team. Folks what I stated is directly related to what Golden does with his team. You may not like him but he is good.

 

[UKGrad24]

Golden is the real deal. I don’t think he’s staying at Florida long, the NBA is probably already taking notice and I’d imagine offers are coming given how young he is. If not, he’d be on my short list.

I just assume he’ll be in the NBA within 24 months. According to a Florida guy I talk to some, he wants to coach in the NBA. Hopefully he doesn’t hang another banner in that time. Seems like another Donovan situation brewing.

If he doesn’t go, and we’re hiring in 12-24 months, no reason not to throw the bank and see.

 

[blackcat714]

He is good at working the reffs gets them to make calls in his favor thats for sure

 

[UKBB4Ever]

I’m not all that impressed with Golden. He’s better than what we have but he caught lightning in a bottle last season.

He won’t make another final four in his career.

We beat him last year and could have beaten him today if we had any plan.

 

[UKCowboys]

So.. yall think if they switched sides today and Pope coached Florida and Golden coached UK, Golden would have won? Yall really believe that, LMFAO

 

[BlueBleedingMarine]

Much better than what we currently have

 

[Anon1762656614]

Much better than what we currently have

Really? Florida went 16-17 his first year and missed the tournament. The second year they went 24-12 and lost in the first round. Golden wasn’t great at San Francisco.

 

[Anon1762656614]

I’m not all that impressed with Golden. He’s better than what we have but he caught lightning in a bottle last season.

He won’t make another final four in his career.

We beat him last year and could have beaten him today if we had any plan.

Did you really think we were beating FL after the Dioubate foul?

 

[SWFLwildcat06]

Golden is a good coach no doubt about it. He’s also a snarky little ***** and an apparent sorority creeper.

 

[Cats4321]

Golden is a really good coach. It was obvious the first time I watched him coach. You can usually tell who is a good coach almost immediately.

 

[Anon1770473266]

We'd have beat his butt if the refs didn't cheat us. We're the better team

 

[UKWildcats1987]

So.. yall think if they switched sides today and Pope coached Florida and Golden coached UK, Golden would have won? Yall really believe that, LMFAO

Pope couldn't recruit the FL team so always dumb when people say this IMO. Pope can't recruit.

 

[cat tat2]

Pope couldn't recruit the FL team so always dumb when people say this IMO. Pope can't recruit.

Sure seems to be the case. Pope isn’t recruiting the way he needs to. Things must change in that area or he won’t finish his contract. IMO

 

[Randy Bob]

He is a good young coach, no doubt about it.

 

[Hitman206]

He reminds me of Steve Masiello with the dick pics.

 

[Eastkybball]

I think he’s gotten lucky with the players he gets and lucky to not be caught being a predator perv.
He worked the officials! Pope didn’t which hurt us.
That gaytor chomp at the end of the game by him was so dumb. I say Kentucky by 15 at rupp.

 

[AJG-15]

Golden is 40 , Mark Pope is his 50s….

to win an ncaa championship with no superstars but very coached team is a big deal .

I watch Florida vs Duke early in the season. Duke was given the game by the refs. Against us , yes Florida had some calls but that’s not what we lost.

Golden had Aberdeen but didn’t want to overpay for him. Instead he build a successful team with less money than Mark Pope had at his disposal.

Golden is a better a talent evaluator and developer than Pope. That gives him more option for in game adjustment when his players have defined roles And know what they are dking.

Pope is also good at in game adjustments. He is our coach so let’s hope he can learn the job quickly and be successful .

 

[BetterThanYou]

Golden is good.

Who else won a national title when a point guard went nuts and carried the NCAA tournament?

Kevin Ollie.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Golden is good.

Who else won a national title when a point guard went nuts and carried the NCAA tournament?

Kevin Ollie.

So did Calhoun with kemba walker.

If you want to hope golden is another Ollie then good luck.

 

[peterpiper09]

Golden is obviously a good coach.
Golden is obviously a little punk.
BUT
Golden didn’t hit all those 3s that a big % of normally miss.
Had they not have hit a MUCH better % than normal, Golden would’ve lost on his home floor yesterday to a team that is decimated with injuries.
Moreno, as a freshman, had better numbers than the media coveted Chinyelu and on the road.
I kinda like what Pope is cooking.
He’s learning all the time, and adapting, something the former coach wouldn’t do.
Pope is a smart guy and I personally think it’s gonna be scary good in the near future.

 

[anon1777473514]

If you thought we were winning in Gainesville with Florida making their threes, you had the wrong scout.

 

[UKCowboys]

Pope couldn't recruit the FL team so always dumb when people say this IMO. Pope can't recruit.

LMAO...the Florida kids are Jr's and Srs. If all out kids stick around till then, we will be better. Chandler and MM lit them up as Soph and Frosh

 

[gbl97]

Golden gave Shane Beamer vibes at the end. Now I can't stand him.

 

[CatsDomain]

Golden is a good coach no doubt about it. He’s also a snarky little ***** and an apparent sorority creeper.

My wife noticed during the game that he wears a wedding ring now. Maybe he's trying to clean up his image?

 

[BetterThanYou]

So did Calhoun with kemba walker.

If you want to hope golden is another Ollie then good luck.

I’m saying the jury is still out.

If not for heroics, Florida loses in round 2 to UConn, E8 to Texas Tech.

 

[Anon1770473266]

I think he’s gotten lucky with the players he gets and lucky to not be caught being a predator perv.
He worked the officials! Pope didn’t which hurt us.
That gaytor chomp at the end of the game by him was so dumb. I say Kentucky by 15 at rupp.

Just 15? I'm saying closer to 20

 

[BlueSince92]

Just like Pope didn’t accidentally beat 8 of the top 15 last year including UF, Golden didn’t accidentally win the title last year.

 

[Coach777]

Golden is the real deal. I don’t think he’s staying at Florida long, the NBA is probably already taking notice and I’d imagine offers are coming given how young he is. If not, he’d be on my short list.

I just assume he’ll be in the NBA within 24 months. According to a Florida guy I talk to some, he wants to coach in the NBA. Hopefully he doesn’t hang another banner in that time. Seems like another Donovan situation brewing.

If he doesn’t go, and we’re hiring in 12-24 months, no reason not to throw the bank and see.

Man I hope you are right. Yeah UK fans don't like him but if he was here and winning they would love him. Just look at Calipari prior until he got here and had success. Unfortunately the UK coaching job doesn't have the appeal it may have had 20/30 years ago with all the media coverage available for most D1 schools now. Heck, I wouldn't want to leave the weather and already established success at Florida for UK.

I just like how much Goldens players improve and their solid fundamentals. What's concerning with Pope is I don't see player development. How can you justify BG not have ANY footwork around the rim after 2 years?? There's a thing in sports called "muscle memory" which you do the same repetitive motion that it comes naturally so you don't think about. So obviously this had not been done with BG. If the moves, which involve footwork, were being worked on daily he would have that down within a month easily. Same with JQ and Dioubate. I like Pope but having improved players by developing skills does not seem to be in Pope's resume.

 

[ThroughBlue]

Todd Goldenberg was promised these wins 3000 years ago

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Lifelong UK fan here and I know many on here won’t agree with but you can’t deny Golden is one of the best coaches in the sport at the moment. If he stays he will win multiple titles and in the hunt yearly.

Today’s game was a reflection on how good he is. UK was the more athletic team but UF was the most skilled team and had a great game plan.
- shut down Owen the hottest player in sec
- runs a great offense with scoring threats at all positions.
- excellent rebounding skills and contesting most shots near the basket.
- the most improved team at this point of the season.
- players have great footwork
- player improvement from the previous year is usually outstanding.

Yes they are beatable but they remind me of what I consider the glory days when Pitino was here, he gets the most out of this team. Folks what I stated is directly related to what Golden does with his team. You may not like him but he is good.

He should be choice #1 if Pope doesn't make it here.

 

[TFCat11]

Top 5-8 HC in MCBB at the moment, plus he’s a passive aggressive a-hole, who talks **** and backs it up! The exact opposite of UK’s current HC. Dude’s 120 pounds soaking wet, but he would have Mitch in the fetal position, sucking on his thumb like a little girl, so zero chance he’ll ever be considered…

Instead, he’ll end up at KU or UNC and retire with 5-6 rings. Yay

 

[GBB1992]

Golden is a good coach no doubt about it. He’s also a snarky little ***** and an apparent sorority creeper.

Looks like he could be one of epsteins best buddies no doubt about it

 

[davtay]

Man I hope you are right. Yeah UK fans don't like him but if he was here and winning they would love him. Just look at Calipari prior until he got here and had success. Unfortunately the UK coaching job doesn't have the appeal it may have had 20/30 years ago with all the media coverage available for most D1 schools now. Heck, I wouldn't want to leave the weather and already established success at Florida for UK.

I just like how much Goldens players improve and their solid fundamentals. What's concerning with Pope is I don't see player development. How can you justify BG not have ANY footwork around the rim after 2 years?? There's a thing in sports called "muscle memory" which you do the same repetitive motion that it comes naturally so you don't think about. So obviously this had not been done with BG. If the moves, which involve footwork, were being worked on daily he would have that down within a month easily. Same with JQ and Dioubate. I like Pope but having improved players by developing skills does not seem to be in Pope's resume.

Yeah because CC and MM neither have improved one bit.

Golden's first two year record was worse than Pope's, so you would have wanted him fired before he could win a championship.

 

[Coach777]

How do you excuse none of the bigs not having game around the rim? You understand those skills have to be taught? Do you see how well skilled UF players were? Do you realize what our record could be if BG, Db and Jelly had any skills? Do you remember how well Pitino developed players? It’s pretty safe to say that UF admins saw and knew this along with his game plans and that’s why they hung a natty last year. You don’t see this with Pope. Not sure what you referring to with CC unless you think Pope changed his shooting form?? MM has improved but doesn’t have the skills and is why he is inconsistent.

 

[KatFanInFlorida]

Golden was on Bruce Pearls staff. I am sure he learned a lot from Bruce,

 

[davtay]

How do you excuse none of the bigs not having game around the rim? You understand those skills have to be taught? Do you see how well skilled UF players were? Do you realize what our record could be if BG, Db and Jelly had any skills? Do you remember how well Pitino developed players? It’s pretty safe to say that UF admins saw and knew this along with his game plans and that’s why they hung a natty last year. You don’t see this with Pope. Not sure what you referring to with CC unless you think Pope changed his shooting form?? MM has improved but doesn’t have the skills and is why he is inconsistent.

Here we go again. You compare Pitino, who had kids four years to develop, then you list Jelly, who has been in this country about seven months, JQ who by all accounts couldn't even practice until Nov/Dec, Mo Diabate, who has been here since the summer, all as kids Pope can't develop, in less than one season. Coach who had kids four years is the standard you hold against a coach who has had these players less than 1 season. BG I will give you, but I believe he is just a knucklehead.

You mention FL bigs being skilled. And they are, specially Haugh. But they were also allowed to go over the back, foul with impunity, and walk (Condon).

I mentioned CC who most last year were saying was unplayable at times, and not SEC material, and now has become in his second year, maybe out best player....and shooter. And you imply Pope had nothing to do with his development. But Golden taught all his big men skills and developed them. I believe you are being disingenuous.

 

[UKCowboys]

Here we go again. You compare Pitino, who had kids four years to develop, then you list Jelly, who has been in this country about seven months, JQ who by all accounts couldn't even practice until Nov/Dec, Mo Diabate, who has been here since the summer, all as kids Pope can't develop, in less than one season. Coach who had kids four years is the standard you hold against a coach who has had these players less than 1 season. BG I will give you, but I believe he is just a knucklehead.

You mention FL bigs being skilled. And they are, specially Haugh. But they were also allowed to go over the back, foul with impunity, and walk (Condon).

I mentioned CC who most last year were saying was unplayable at times, and not SEC material, and now has become in his second year, maybe out best player....and shooter. And you imply Pope had nothing to do with his development. But Golden taught all his big men skills and developed them. I believe you are being disingenuous.

You hit the nail on the head. The folks are either kids who don't know basketball, haters, of folks that have forgotten what building a program the non Cal was looks like.

I was saying last year Chandler would be all conference as a SR and had 20 people ripping me, saying he was not a UK player.
I stand by the statement that Chandler would be as good as Richie Saunders as a SR.

Soph Chandler 9.7/3.9....Fr Chandler 2.7/1.0

Jr. Haugh: 17.5/6.3...Fr. Haugh 3.9/3.7
Jr Condon 13.3/8.0...Fr Condon 7.7/6.4
Jr Chinyelu 11.7/11.8....Fr Chinyelu 4.7/5.0

Davtay doesn't use Chandler, who will be a 15 ppg scorer next season as an example of Pope developing player. They use a freshman Jelly and a Soph JQ who played hurt in 4 games. Makes sense. I said day one that the pile of .... Cal left Pope would require 4 years to build into a top program. Folks think we can buy a championship team or that a different coach could walk in and perform miracles, ignoring the fact that guys like Hurley "sucked" by their standards the first few years. The goalposts are always moving on RR

 

[deputy assistant]

He should be choice #1 if Pope doesn't make it here.

I doubt he goes to another college when he leaves UF. UF probably has 4-5 more years tops before he goes to the NBA. I say this as a Gator. He won’t be here long like a Coach K or Dean Smith.

 

[deputy assistant]

How do you excuse none of the bigs not having game around the rim? You understand those skills have to be taught? Do you see how well skilled UF players were? Do you realize what our record could be if BG, Db and Jelly had any skills? Do you remember how well Pitino developed players? It’s pretty safe to say that UF admins saw and knew this along with his game plans and that’s why they hung a natty last year. You don’t see this with Pope. Not sure what you referring to with CC unless you think Pope changed his shooting form?? MM has improved but doesn’t have the skills and is why he is inconsistent.

Golden gets credit for development of UF’s bigs, and rightly so as the head coach, but UF fans all know that the man responsible for that is Assistant Coach Carlin Hartman.

 

[Coach777]

You hit the nail on the head. The folks are either kids who don't know basketball, haters, of folks that have forgotten what building a program the non Cal was looks like.

I was saying last year Chandler would be all conference as a SR and had 20 people ripping me, saying he was not a UK player.
I stand by the statement that Chandler would be as good as Richie Saunders as a SR.

Soph Chandler 9.7/3.9....Fr Chandler 2.7/1.0

Jr. Haugh: 17.5/6.3...Fr. Haugh 3.9/3.7
Jr Condon 13.3/8.0...Fr Condon 7.7/6.4
Jr Chinyelu 11.7/11.8....Fr Chinyelu 4.7/5.0

Davtay doesn't use Chandler, who will be a 15 ppg scorer next season as an example of Pope developing player. They use a freshman Jelly and a Soph JQ who played hurt in 4 games. Makes sense. I said day one that the pile of .... Cal left Pope would require 4 years to build into a top program. Folks think we can buy a championship team or that a different coach could walk in and perform miracles, ignoring the fact that guys like Hurley "sucked" by their standards the first few years. The goalposts are always moving on RR

Thanks for your response and on the homework you’ve done. Yes I know player development doesn’t happen overnight and I’m not expecting natty this year or next. But Popes had these kids since last summer and I see nothing different in the skills around the basket of those I mentioned except MM since their first game. I expected at least some improvement from BG from last year but there has been NONE. It doesn’t take years to develop good footwork and can be done rather quickly if emphasized. I guess we will see if some of the bigs stick around for a few years but haven’t seen anything that gives me hope.

The thing you can hang your hat on with Pope his team plays hard and determined of course sometimes waiting until the second half. Recruiting of course is an issue currently but I believe will improve within a year or two which I believe takes some experience to do well.