tOSU dual of the century - deja vu

[SRATH]

If NB pins LL, OSU has a shot. If Davino wins, they have a chance, but still slightly below 50% I would guess. Mendez pins and Feldman wins…..they are at 18.

We should win 6 bouts and if they are just decisions, we are at 17. I am counting on Davis kicking Mendez’s ***……-1.Wrong??

If Luke wins, they need a miracle. If Marcus also wins, we should have National Duals- Non-Participant banners unfurl from the rafters.

I expect lots of fireworks.

 

[Walkon86]

So with Cannon out…it appears the dual is out of reach for OSU (I always thought it was…but admittedly they had a shot) with that will Tan Tom, the guy who medical forfeited his own healthy son to drop to the consolation rounds of bigs rather than face Retherford, duck anyone else?

 

[Reslo1]

So with Cannon out…it appears the dual is out of reach for OSU (I always thought it was…but admittedly they had a shot) with that will Tan Tom, the guy who medical forfeited his own healthy son to drop to the consolation rounds of bigs rather than face Retherford, duck anyone else?

Ryan had his son forfeit to avoid Nolf, not Retherford, but your point stands. Wrestling either of those dudes would be less fun than a root canal.

 

[WV lion]

So with Cannon out…it appears the dual is out of reach for OSU (I always thought it was…but admittedly they had a shot) with that will Tan Tom, the guy who medical forfeited his own healthy son to drop to the consolation rounds of bigs rather than face Retherford, duck anyone else?

Brings up an interesting point. Does he sit anyone else.

 

[bdoncsecz]

I hope bouzakis and davino duck, so the delusions can persist for another month ...
Why end it all on the 13th already!

 

[HOA242n!]

Someone posted on FB that Cannon had knee surgery and is out until BIGS.

Someone posted on FB that Cannon had knee surgery and is out until BIGS.

So he had his meniscus scoped? Any other knee procedure and he's out way more than 5 weeks.

 

[El_Jefe]

Ryan had his son forfeit to avoid Nolf, not Retherford, but your point stands. Wrestling either of those dudes would be less fun than a root canal.

That's not true either. It was at 2017 B10s. Jake Ryan was the 11 seed, Jason was the 1. They could not have met until the finals.

Here are the brackets:

2017 Big Ten Wrestling Championships Central - Indiana University Athletics

CHAMPIONSHIPS Central: BLOOMINGTON 2017 --> The bracket is set, and competition is at an all-time high. The 2015 Big Ten Field Hockey Tournament returns to t...

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I have no idea what Tan Tom was thinking by making his son forfeit to the immortal Brian Murphy. The "better draw in consis" excuse was as absurd as it was false.

 

[Reslo1]

That's not true either. It was at 2017 B10s. Jake Ryan was the 11 seed, Jason was the 1. They could not have met until the finals.

Here are the brackets:

2017 Big Ten Wrestling Championships Central - Indiana University Athletics

CHAMPIONSHIPS Central: BLOOMINGTON 2017 --> The bracket is set, and competition is at an all-time high. The 2015 Big Ten Field Hockey Tournament returns to t...

iuhoosiers.com

I have no idea what Tan Tom was thinking by making his son forfeit to the immortal Brian Murphy. The "better draw in consis" excuse was as absurd as it was false.

I stand corrected! I was apparently a victim of the Mandela Effect in this case.

 

[Corby2]

Brings up an interesting point. Does he sit anyone else.

Stiles was out last week but should be back by then

 

[El_Jefe]

I stand corrected! I was apparently a victim of the Mandela Effect in this case.

Poor Keshawn Hayes in 2018 lost the Avoid Zain Wrestle-off to Joey McKenna. The next year, with Zain graduated, he lost the Avoid Jason Wrestle-off to Micah Jordan.

 

[a_mshaffer]

That's not true either. It was at 2017 B10s. Jake Ryan was the 11 seed, Jason was the 1. They could not have met until the finals.

Here are the brackets:

2017 Big Ten Wrestling Championships Central - Indiana University Athletics

CHAMPIONSHIPS Central: BLOOMINGTON 2017 --> The bracket is set, and competition is at an all-time high. The 2015 Big Ten Field Hockey Tournament returns to t...

iuhoosiers.com

I have no idea what Tan Tom was thinking by making his son forfeit to the immortal Brian Murphy. The "better draw in consis" excuse was as absurd as it was false.

no idea? mine would only be to gather more points in consi's - especially the first round. Otherwise, I can't think of anything else either

 

[El_Jefe]

no idea? mine would only be to gather more points in consi's - especially the first round. Otherwise, I can't think of anything else either

That's an idea so incredibly bizarre that it never crossed my mind. Which means I can't rule it out.

Math-wise: Jake Ryan went 1-2 with a pin in consis --> 2.5 pts.

Had he beaten Murphy and lost to Berger in the quarters, he would've drawn the 12-13 winner in Consi Round 2. So right there is 1.5 pts assuming no bonus over the 12-13 winner. Next would've been Elite Van Brill ...

OK, now it makes more sense lol.

 

[LB99]

So with Cannon out…it appears the dual is out of reach for OSU (I always thought it was…but admittedly they had a shot) with that will Tan Tom, the guy who medical forfeited his own healthy son to drop to the consolation rounds of bigs rather than face Retherford, duck anyone else?

Sorry. Late to the party here. Cannon is out? Why?

 

[Corby2]

Sorry. Late to the party here. Cannon is out? Why?

Knee won't be back until big 10

 

[eddy line]

Sorry. Late to the party here. Cannon is out? Why?

Knee. Dunno how serious but supposedly back for B10s.

Edit: Corby beat me to it.

 

[LB99]

Knee won't be back until big 10

Gotcha. Thanks. Just tuned in. I’ll edit my post as it was in poor taste.

 

[Corby2]

Knee. Dunno how serious but supposedly back for B10s.

Edit: Corby beat me to it.

He had it scoped

 

[lionlover]

My understanding is that Cannon was in a wheelchair up until last week. Almost certain he's a no until March.

Did you see his body?

 

[wrestlingfan22]

PSU will win the dual but this should have some awesome matchups if everyone is healthy and shows up.
125: 1 vs 2 in the country
133: 2 vs 4 in the conutry
141: 1 v 12 in the country (Ohio State looking for bonus)
149: 1 v 7 in the country (PSU looking for bonus)
174: 1 v 5 in the country
184: 1 v 8 in the country (old team factor)
197: 1 v 10 in the country (PSU looking for bonus)
285: 3 v 12 in the country

Matches I am most excited for are in BOLD.

 

[Random4598375]

PSU will win the dual but this should have some awesome matchups if everyone is healthy and shows up.
125: 1 vs 2 in the country
133: 2 vs 4 in the conutry
141: 1 v 12 in the country (Ohio State looking for bonus)
149: 1 v 7 in the country (PSU looking for bonus)
174: 1 v 5 in the country
184: 1 v 8 in the country (old team factor)
197: 1 v 10 in the country (PSU looking for bonus)
285: 3 v 12 in the country

Matches I am most excited for are in BOLD.

You can put that 133 match in bold, underlined, and exploding text. That's THE marquee match of the entire dual season.

 

[Nitlion1986]

You can put that 133 match in bold, underlined, and exploding text. That's THE marquee match of the entire dual season.

I don't know. I really liked the excitement in the 1 vs 7 PSU v Maryland match up. Especially how SVN recovered from being pinned (per Clemsen).

 

[Headlock]

He had it scoped

Now that is an extraordinary measure to take to avoid PJ

 

[Random4598375]

Now that is an extraordinary measure to take to avoid PJ

They're just trying to outdo Ferrari, who is sitting out a third week in a row in order to keep the injury excuse in tact for why he lost to Rocco.

 

[Goggles Paisano]

I think at this point Cannon will sit vs PSU which may result in his keeping the #1 for Big10s.

Antrell and PJ get the #2 & #3 respectively and meet in the semis. My money is on PJ, regardless, whomever wins that match abuses Cannon in the finals. If there were justice, Cannon would drop out of the #1, and PJ and Antrell meet in the finals, but I don't see that happening.

PS - I am still pissed at that Ref.

 

[Lil Nicky Scarfo]

They're just trying to outdo Ferrari, who is sitting out a third week in a row in order to keep the injury excuse in tact for why he lost to Rocco.

 

[lionlover]

I don't know. I really liked the excitement in the 1 vs 7 PSU v Maryland match up. Especially how SVN recovered from being pinned (per Clemsen).

FINALLY...someone that gets it!

 

[lionlover]

If NB pins LL, OSU has a shot. If Davino wins, they have a chance, but still slightly below 50% I would guess. Mendez pins and Feldman wins…..they are at 18.

We should win 6 bouts and if they are just decisions, we are at 17. I am counting on Davis kicking Mendez’s ***……-1.Wrong??

If Luke wins, they need a miracle. If Marcus also wins, we should have National Duals- Non-Participant banners unfurl from the rafters.

I expect lots of fireworks.

Don't worry pal, I may be outskilled, but I have a huge size advantage!

 

[lionlover]

Gotcha. Thanks. Just tuned in. I’ll edit my post as it was in poor taste.

That never stopped me from posting.

 

[Nitlion1986]

That never stopped me from posting.

Nor should it.

 

[The Pitchfork Rebel]

So with Cannon out…it appears the dual is out of reach for OSU (I always thought it was…but admittedly they had a shot) with that will Tan Tom, the guy who medical forfeited his own healthy son to drop to the consolation rounds of bigs rather than face Retherford, duck anyone else?

Ryan whining about not having a full squad in 3..2..1....

 

[The Pitchfork Rebel]

Gotcha. Thanks. Just tuned in. I’ll edit my post as it was in poor taste.

Wait, bitter and sour posts aren't the whole point of posting?

 

[Anon1768404051]

In a WrestleStat comparison, it is putting Mirasola over Feldman. Is there info out there as to why it would do this? Feldman has the high rank, wins over Misasola's losses, and it's not like he is a freshman with no history to analyze. Just curious.

 

[Corby2]

In a WrestleStat comparison, it is putting Mirasola over Feldman. Is there info out there as to why it would do this? Feldman has the high rank, wins over Misasola's losses, and it's not like he is a freshman with no history to analyze. Just curious.

It's does some odd things at times. It had a Bellarmine kid majoring Caliendo. WS is awesome and has tons of information. But using it for comparisons isn't its best feature that's for sure

 

[Sandy2176]

The winning streak will be tested in the sense that we could lose multiple weights instead of 0 or 1. I don’t see a real threat, though.

125 Lille MD Bouzakis. It’s pin or get majored for Bouzakis. He can’t actually wrestle with Lille
133 Blaze dec Davino. This is really very close to a 50-50 match and probably the single match I’m most looking forward to in the entire dual season, which means TanTom will probably have Davino duck the match. I hope Blaze rips McCrone limb from limb if TanTom ducks Blaze.
141 Mendez TF Davis. Hopefully, Davis can hold this to a regular decision or even a major, but Mendez is next level. Davis has a better chance to shock the world in March.
149 SVN MD Stiles. Stiles isn’t the same tier as SVN.
157 Duke dec Cannon. Duke takes over #1 for good.
165 Mesenbrink TF Paddy. #1 overall big board recruit vs #70. Wait, what?
174 Levi dec Kharchla. Could be MD, but Kharchla is good defensively.
184 Rocco dec Fishback. Rocco is just starting to explore his powers in the PSU room.
197 Barr TF Geog. Next question.
285 Feldman dec Mirasola. Cole could win if the match score is really 25-5 at that point and momentum is in our side, but in a vacuum, Feldman is the favorite.

25-8. sweating bullets.

What makes you think TR will have Davino duck . Makes Zero sense

I think at this point Cannon will sit vs PSU which may result in his keeping the #1 for Big10s.

Antrell and PJ get the #2 & #3 respectively and meet in the semis. My money is on PJ, regardless, whomever wins that match abuses Cannon in the finals. If there were justice, Cannon would drop out of the #1, and PJ and Antrell meet in the finals, but I don't see that happening.

PS - I am still pissed at that Ref.

Cannon has improved much this year. It's not a fluke

 

[Sandy2176]

In a WrestleStat comparison, it is putting Mirasola over Feldman. Is there info out there as to why it would do this? Feldman has the high rank, wins over Misasola's losses, and it's not like he is a freshman with no history to analyze. Just curious.

It's does some odd things at times. It had a Bellarmine kid majoring Caliendo. WS is awesome and has tons of information. But using it for comparisons isn't its best feature that's for sure

In a WrestleStat comparison, it is putting Mirasola over Feldman. Is there info out there as to why it would do this? Feldman has the high rank, wins over Misasola's losses, and it's not like he is a freshman with no history to analyze. Just curious.

Wrestle start has 4 lower Iowa wrestlers beating OSU. While PSU 3 wrestlers only ranked 1 number lower all projected to loose. Why's that??

 

[dicemen99]

Wrestle start has 4 lower Iowa wrestlers beating OSU. While PSU 3 wrestlers only ranked 1 number lower all projected to loose. Why's that??

Andrade is an Iowa fan and used to tweak his algorithm continuously in the old days responding to Iowa fans blasting him for confirming that Iowa was no longer dominant with his tool.

My bet is that he got sick of all the tinkering one day and just said “f it, how about I just plug ‘Iowa wrestler = +X’ into the algorithm” one day. Or at least it seemed that way a few years ago and not much has changed since.

 

[Corby2]

Andrade is an Iowa fan and used to tweak his algorithm continuously in the old days responding to Iowa fans blasting him for confirming that Iowa was no longer dominant with his tool.

My bet is that he got sick of all the tinkering one day and just said “f it, how about I just plug ‘Iowa wrestler = +X’ into the algorithm” one day. Or at least it seemed that way a few years ago and not much has changed since.

Big conspiracy guy? Imagine that's why it had Connor Cumbee majoring Caliendo. Well looks like its still has it that way. Someone better let Andrade know

 

[dicemen99]

Big conspiracy guy? Imagine that's why it had Connor Cumbee majoring Caliendo. Well looks like its still has it that way. Someone better let Andrade know

Cmon, you’re better than that. Iowans treat Bellamine like family.

You got to throw them a few bones so they keep showing up for their annual preseason *** whipping. Cumbee majoring Caliendo doesn’t even register.

 

[Goggles Paisano]

Slight gut check when PJ hurt his shoulder last night. True shoulder injuries are death in wrestling. Don't be shocked if we see Joe Sealy against Ohio State, especially if Cannon is out again, which is likely.

 

[mcpat]

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