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Every single camera angle of the event supports those facts. It's not an opinion or debate. Video shows conclusive evidence of what happened, which is what I summarized.
No every single camera does not support those as facts. Especially when you make an opinion like untrained officers and try to allude he wasn’t resisting arrest. I can tell you I’m older now but at his age I was hell on wheels. If I wasn’t resisting arrest it would have taken 1 cop to get me down not 6.
 
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Man, how many hours a day do you spend thinking about me and are most of those hours while you are napping in your deer blind?

Also, why do you call people so many names. You don't do that in real life, you don't walk into a (hunting) store and just call people "retard", do you?
That’s because we don’t find retards in hunting stores.
 

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That’s because we don’t find retards in hunting stores.
Really? So no one with a mental handicap has ever gone to a hunting store before? Ever?

You don't really think that is true, do you? Like you don't think anyone with down syndrome has ever been in a Cabala's?
 
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I mean, the training better matter. 99.9% of the ICE or any law enforcement guys do a great job and clearly the training matters.

Now, I get what you mean but the training really does need to kick in and help them. Which I think it most cases it does.
What are you honestly going to do when you have these masked idiots coming up to trying to antagonize you to do something yet you cannot protect yourself and others? It is an organized bunch of idiots trying trip you up. You are not TRAINED for that and you are in a liberal city full of these idiots that are purposely doing this.

GROW UP, GET A JOB and GO ON WITH YOUR LIFE.
 

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What are you honestly going to do when you have these masked idiots coming up to trying to antagonize you to do something yet you cannot protect yourself and others? It is an organized bunch of idiots trying trip you up. You are not TRAINED for that and you are in a liberal city full of these idiots that are purposely doing this.

GROW UP, GET A JOB and GO ON WITH YOUR LIFE.
I get what you are saying and I would never go near one of these protests (or any protest for anything, those people are all losers). But they need to be trained to keep their cool, which 99% of them do.

And you are totally right about getting a job.

Also, the work from home crowd needs to get back to the ******* office. Period
 
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What are you honestly going to do when you have these masked idiots coming up to trying to antagonize you to do something yet you cannot protect yourself and others? It is an organized bunch of idiots trying trip you up. You are not TRAINED for that and you are in a liberal city full of these idiots that are purposely doing this.

GROW UP, GET A JOB and GO ON WITH YOUR LIFE.
As one of the resident “useful” idiots… this alcoholic retard has been convinced by his fellow retarded commies that attacking law enforcement is fine. Retards gonna retard. He can’t help it. He has to toe the narrative. He wasn’t raised with any kind of fortitude or standard of behavior, it’s why he talks about women like he does. It’s why no woman will go near him. So instead he’s created this whole pathetic persona to make it seem like his life isn’t a pathetic failure in every way possible.
 
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As one of the resident “useful” idiots… this alcoholic retard has been convinced by his fellow retarded commies that attacking law enforcement is fine. Retards gonna retard. He can’t help it. He has to toe the narrative. He wasn’t raised with any kind of fortitude or standard of behavior, it’s why he talks about women like he does. It’s why no woman will go near him. So instead he’s created this whole pathetic persona to make it seem like his life isn’t a pathetic failure in every way possible.
Okay, I have to know. What did you edit on that?

Is this this "toned down" version? My god..safe to say that sleeping in the deer blind is causing some issues.
 

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have you ever been in s situation where you are out numbered this bad? Training does not matter at that point as you have to have your head on a swivel all the time and be on guard. These idiot protesters need to be smacked into submission and quit this ****. Not one of these fools have a productive bone in their body. It is like you are dealing with toddlers. I lived in MPLS for 5 years and dealt with these liberal nuts but this is just beyond ridiculous. I am not even sure out some guy arrested in Omaha turned to these morons on MPLS.
The only outnumbered I saw was an American citizen who had every right to be there Alex Pretti taken from behind and put on the ground where up to 7 officers were beating on him. And then the officers started shooting him because they were poorly trained, escalatory, and trigger happy. Bad combination and at minimum, all should be suspended, and one or a few should be facing murder charges.
 

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Now I get it his name...463 is his version of 764.

Feel free to look it up, it makes sense now.
 

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The only outnumbered I saw was an American citizen who had every right to be there Alex Pretti taken from behind and put on the ground where up to 7 officers were beating on him. And then the officers started shooting him because they were poorly trained, escalatory, and trigger happy. Bad combination and at minimum, all should be suspended, and one or a few should be facing murder charges.
I think it is safe to say that the entire thing could have been totally avoided. At WORST it should have been an arrest with a little bit of a beating.

But when you are stupid and have to be strapped, stupid things can happen.
 

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They are out looking for trouble and got it. I don’t feel bad for the guy or the gal. They are radicalized to the point where they’re interfering with a federal investigation. A good way to not get shot is to not get into these completely avoidable situations of high tension.

There are ice agents all over the country. Most are welcoming them and allowing them to do what they’re instructed to do. These protestors are simply too dumb to try and rationalize with and/or paid agents.
A federal investigation doesn't give you the right to shoot and kill someone who wasn't an imminent threat. Neither the guy nor the gal who were shot and killed in Minnesota were imminent threats.

Law enforcement investigations themselves need to be completely overwritten. I'm also a believer in the 4th amendment and think there should be an official warrant for each and every investigation, and especially when raiding into homes or businesses. I don't know how you hypocritcal MAGA Trumptards can justify raiding into people's homes without official documentation. Maybe there wouldn't be so many protesters if the agency was actually following law and the constitution.
 
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A federal investigation doesn't give you the right to shoot and kill someone who wasn't an imminent threat. Neither the guy nor the gal who were shot and killed in Minnesota were imminent threats.

Law enforcement investigations themselves need to be completely overwritten. I'm also a believer in the 4th amendment and think there should be an official warrant for each and every investigation, and especially when raiding into homes or businesses. I don't know how you hypocritcal MAGA Trumptards can justify raiding into people's homes without official documentation. Maybe there wouldn't be so many protesters if the agency was actually following law and the constitution.
I think you have to understand that most people on message boards are not acting how they do "in real life"...

The guys calling everyone retards, they don't do that at work or at home or at the store. They are normal people.

The guys calling everyone "Shitlibs", I think it was, they don't go using that in real life around the neighborhood or at church or school.
 
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For instance, say that the dude that got killed was your brother or your son, whatever.

No one, in real life, would go "Well, that shitlib retard got what he deserved for being a shitlib tardo...time to head back to my deer blind"

It just isn't what you would do, it isn't what any normal person would do.
 

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Too much to unpack but I’ll start here. If these ICE officers are not as trained as they should be I would blame the left leaders for inciting “peaceful” protests. If there were no leaders like Frey, Waltz, the mayors of Chicago, Boston and New York, Newsom and Schiff that impeded the operation of immigration enforcement, there would not have been a need to rapidly hire thousand of ICE agents. If Biden and Harris and the listed fools above allowing millions of illegal aliens into the country and harboring these fugitives, there would have been no need to rapidly hire thousands of new Border Patrol officers.
Funny how you can justify this moron with regards to what’s required for notifying a LEO that you have a weapon on you but ignore the laws on the books about entering the country illegally. Or understand that you don’t need a weapon if you are going to peacefully protest.

the biggest problem of it all is that most people don’t understand immigration law. DHS falls under the DOJ which is under the executive branch. The people claiming the due process simply don’t understand that these people entering the country illegally are heard by administrative judges under the executive branch. That judge can immediately deport if the alien is detained near the border or the alien is unable to prove 2 years continuous presence. That’s their due process. This is a civil court and doesn’t fall under Article III of Federal law. But constant interference of this process precipitated the hiring of thousands of agents in a short period of time. But uninformed and paid agitators want to muck up the process and end up being killed. While unfortunate they have no one to blame but themselves and the morons paying them and the liberal leaders who encourage their actions while they sit safely away from the protests just pulling strings.
Those are separate issues that I don't agree with myself. Minnesota is a horribly run state. I think the Democrats immigration policies were horribly stupid and caused problems. But that doesn't mean that creating a modern day Gestapo who break into homes and businesses and conduct enforcement actions illegally is the right answer for these issues. And it's appalling that so many on the right excuse and encourage illegal use of law enforcement just because it supports their political agenda.

With that being said, you righty Republicans, conservatives, MAGA... whatever you call yourselves, you love being hypocrites. I thought that Republicans were the party of state's rights and small government?

And yet you support creating and empowering a modern day Gestapo, a gang of federal agents who overstep their authority and break into people's homes and businesses without legal documentation or due process. And recently, shooting and killing people for no excusable reason. I don't know how you excuse any of that, unless you're just a morally reprehensible person that I would never want to associate with.
 

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For instance, say that the dude that got killed was your brother or your son, whatever.

Wrong..and i have proof. One of my sons wanted to go downtown a few years ago when their was some unrest goin on... don't remember which libtard reasons they were using to riot that time...and asked my opinion... I told him he was an idiot for even thinking about it and its a great way to get hurt or killed and if memory serves, thats exactly what happened. He decided against going...but if he had gone and something happened, i'd have told the world i thought he was being an idiot for even being there.
 

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Wrong..and i have proof. One of my sons wanted to go downtown a few years ago when their was some unrest goin on... don't remember which libtard reasons they were using to riot that time...and asked my opinion... I told him he was an idiot for even thinking about it and its a great way to get hurt or killed and if memory serves, thats exactly what happened. He decided against going...but if he had gone and something happened, i'd have told the world i thought he was being an idiot for even being there.
Fair enough! If that is what you would have done had he been shot and killed, just like the guy in the video, then that is what you would have done. I appreciate your honesty.
 

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A federal investigation doesn't give you the right to shoot and kill someone who wasn't an imminent threat. Neither the guy nor the gal who were shot and killed in Minnesota were imminent threats.

Law enforcement investigations themselves need to be completely overwritten. I'm also a believer in the 4th amendment and think there should be an official warrant for each and every investigation, and especially when raiding into homes or businesses. I don't know how you hypocritcal MAGA Trumptards can justify raiding into people's homes without official documentation. Maybe there wouldn't be so many protesters if the agency was actually following law and the constitution.
It's odd, I didn't see you pop in and argue against illegals or show a single iota of compassion for the nursing student that was killed by an illegal POS. Where were her rights? Where was her due process? What about her family? What about the rest of the Americans that died at the hands of illegals?

The criminal illegals are what ICE is trying to to eradicate but the bleeding heart Aholes are obstructing and committing felonious acts because they want to protect illegal criminals over Americans.

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A federal investigation doesn't give you the right to shoot and kill someone who wasn't an imminent threat. Neither the guy nor the gal who were shot and killed in Minnesota were imminent threats.

Law enforcement investigations themselves need to be completely overwritten. I'm also a believer in the 4th amendment and think there should be an official warrant for each and every investigation, and especially when raiding into homes or businesses. I don't know how you hypocritcal MAGA Trumptards can justify raiding into people's homes without official documentation. Maybe there wouldn't be so many protesters if the agency was actually following law and the constitution.

They were both stupid and both threats. You can’t even acknowledge that making a discussion impossible. You’re more interested in smearing Trump than being honest. ICE are bothering nobody except illegals - they’re going home and the purple haired cross dressers getting in their way for some odd reason
 

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They were both stupid and both threats. You can’t even acknowledge that making a discussion impossible. You’re more interested in smearing Trump than being honest. ICE are bothering nobody except illegals - they’re going home and the purple haired cross dressers getting in their way for some odd reason
Neither one was an imminent threat to the life of the officers who shot them, which should be and is the standard for the use of lethal force by law enforcement. Bad decisions were made on both sides, but that doesn't excuse improper use of force that resulted in death in both instances. I don't know how you can call that anything else other than murder.
 

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Neither one was an imminent threat to the life of the officers who shot them, which should be and is the standard for the use of lethal force by law enforcement. Bad decisions were made on both sides, but that doesn't excuse improper use of force that resulted in death in both instances. I don't know how you can call that anything else other than murder.

They weren’t murdered and your anger is very misplaced. Being a cop in a tense situation demands split second decisions. Using vehicle as a weapon or fighting with cops with a firearm on your person are good ways to end up dead. This should be common knowledge but in this instance you’re using it to justify your hate for Trump.

Here’s a hint, you give him way more power the more you hate him. Maybe ignore it and get back to being a rational, loving person who makes the lives of those around you better.
 

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It's odd, I didn't see you pop in and argue against illegals or show a single iota of compassion for the nursing student that was killed by an illegal POS. Where were her rights? Where was her due process? What about her family? What about the rest of the Americans that died at the hands of illegals?

The criminal illegals are what ICE is trying to to eradicate but the bleeding heart Aholes are obstructing and committing felonious acts because they want to protect illegal criminals over Americans.

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Leftists prefer her killer, over law abiding citizens. Thats where the country is at. Facts
 

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They weren’t murdered and your anger is very misplaced. Being a cop in a tense situation demands split second decisions. Using vehicle as a weapon or fighting with cops with a firearm on your person are good ways to end up dead. This should be common knowledge but in this instance you’re using it to justify your hate for Trump.

Here’s a hint, you give him way more power the more you hate him. Maybe ignore it and get back to being a rational, loving person who makes the lives of those around you better.
Isn't that from one of the Star Wars movies?
 

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They weren’t murdered and your anger is very misplaced. Being a cop in a tense situation demands split second decisions. Using vehicle as a weapon or fighting with cops with a firearm on your person are good ways to end up dead. This should be common knowledge but in this instance you’re using it to justify your hate for Trump.

Here’s a hint, you give him way more power the more you hate him. Maybe ignore it and get back to being a rational, loving person who makes the lives of those around you better.
The last sentence isn’t possible for these sick people. They have lost control of rationality
 
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Neither one was an imminent threat to the life of the officers who shot them, which should be and is the standard for the use of lethal force by law enforcement. Bad decisions were made on both sides, but that doesn't excuse improper use of force that resulted in death in both instances. I don't know how you can call that anything else other than murder.
Funny - no post from you when the unarmed women was shot by capitol police - she was far less of a threat and the left celebrated it, but you lefties also celebrated CK’s death
 

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It's odd, I didn't see you pop in and argue against illegals or show a single iota of compassion for the nursing student that was killed by an illegal POS. Where were her rights? Where was her due process? What about her family? What about the rest of the Americans that died at the hands of illegals?

The criminal illegals are what ICE is trying to to eradicate but the bleeding heart Aholes are obstructing and committing felonious acts because they want to protect illegal criminals over Americans.

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Honestly I never followed that story and don't know much about it and so I can't comment on it. Yes I think letting criminal and unrestricted illegals in was incredibly stupid by the Democrat party. And yes, I think criminal immigrants should be punished to the full extent of our laws and/or deported. I never denied that.

But you're making a red herring argument that isn't true. No one is up in arms about criminal aliens being deported. What they're protesting is families being torn apart, and illegal methods and excessive use of force of detaining otherwise law-abiding immigrants at their homes and place of business.

I don't think non-criminal illegals are much of a problem, and actually very important segments of our economy rely extensively on their labor. Admit it and don't be hypocritical, I'm sure most people on this board at one point or another had their roof work done by a company that hired illegals, and you probably didn't blink twice about it. Or purchased meat originating from a packing plant that hired illegals. I'm sure you didn't think twice about that decision either.
 

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They weren’t murdered and your anger is very misplaced. Being a cop in a tense situation demands split second decisions. Using vehicle as a weapon or fighting with cops with a firearm on your person are good ways to end up dead. This should be common knowledge but in this instance you’re using it to justify your hate for Trump.

Here’s a hint, you give him way more power the more you hate him. Maybe ignore it and get back to being a rational, loving person who makes the lives of those around you better.
Yes the situation demands split second decisions, and I'm not denying they were tense situations. But law enforcement agents made the wrong decision in both cases, and they should face the full consequences of those wrong decisions.
 
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Honestly I never followed that story and don't know much about it and so I can't comment on it. Yes I think letting criminal and unrestricted illegals in was incredibly stupid by the Democrat party. And yes, I think criminal immigrants should be punished to the full extent of our laws and/or deported. I never denied that.

But you're making a red herring argument that isn't true. No one is up in arms about criminal aliens being deported. What they're protesting is families being torn apart, and illegal methods and excessive use of force of detaining otherwise law-abiding immigrants at their homes and place of business.

I don't think non-criminal illegals are much of a problem, and actually very important segments of our economy rely extensively on their labor. Admit it and don't be hypocritical, I'm sure most people on this board at one point or another had their roof work done by a company that hired illegals, and you probably didn't blink twice about it. Or purchased meat originating from a packing plant that hired illegals. I'm sure you didn't think twice about that decision either.
So, if they are an illegal (violation of U.S.C. 1325) and they have a family and regardless of whether they have committed criminal acts while in the United States, the actions by ICE to detain and deport that person is not acceptable because those persons have a family and a job? Although being an illegal is grounds for deportation.

The bottom line, they have still violated U.S.C. 1325 which is grounds for deportation.

But wait... you are correct. If a natural born American citizen commits a crime, he shouldn't go to jail because he has a family and he had a job at a restaurant.

My bad... I guess we change the law to fit the narrative. You win.
 
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Those are separate issues that I don't agree with myself. Minnesota is a horribly run state. I think the Democrats immigration policies were horribly stupid and caused problems. But that doesn't mean that creating a modern day Gestapo who break into homes and businesses and conduct enforcement actions illegally is the right answer for these issues. And it's appalling that so many on the right excuse and encourage illegal use of law enforcement just because it supports their political agenda.

With that being said, you righty Republicans, conservatives, MAGA... whatever you call yourselves, you love being hypocrites. I thought that Republicans were the party of state's rights and small government?

And yet you support creating and empowering a modern day Gestapo, a gang of federal agents who overstep their authority and break into people's homes and businesses without legal documentation or due process. And recently, shooting and killing people for no excusable reason. I don't know how you excuse any of that, unless you're just a morally reprehensible person that I would never want to associate with.
Again, you understand the immigration has to be a federal issue, right? So that has nothing to do with local and state governance vs big government. People know if they are here legally or illegally. You don’t sneak into a country and hire these coyotes if you can just go to a border check point and come across.

as far as overstepping, they are the only authority, When you block and impede ICE and CBP or DHS operations you are no longer just a protester you are breaking the law. Neither one of these individuals had a sign to protest, they did nothing but interfere with a law enforcement operation. One of them had a firearm and the other used a vehicle as a weapon. You can spin it to attempt to justify your opinion but if people would have simply allowed law enforcement do their job, both persons would still be alive. They didn’t and they aren’t.
 

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Honestly I never followed that story and don't know much about it and so I can't comment on it. Yes I think letting criminal and unrestricted illegals in was incredibly stupid by the Democrat party. And yes, I think criminal immigrants should be punished to the full extent of our laws and/or deported. I never denied that.

But you're making a red herring argument that isn't true. No one is up in arms about criminal aliens being deported. What they're protesting is families being torn apart, and illegal methods and excessive use of force of detaining otherwise law-abiding immigrants at their homes and place of business.

I don't think non-criminal illegals are much of a problem, and actually very important segments of our economy rely extensively on their labor. Admit it and don't be hypocritical, I'm sure most people on this board at one point or another had their roof work done by a company that hired illegals, and you probably didn't blink twice about it. Or purchased meat originating from a packing plant that hired illegals. I'm sure you didn't think twice about that decision either.

Speaking of those hard working aliens... have you ever heard of U.S.C. § 1324a(a)(1)(A)? I guess we will ignore that one as well.

How about the left wanting to toss the 2nd Amendment in the trash but now they want everyone to take up arms against ICE?

The left wants everyone to show an ID at the bank, get on an airplane, buy a firearm or show vaccination papers (and arrested people) but don't think it's necessary for voting.

The left begged to see the Epstein files. Bill Clinton dominates the dump and now the left moves on to Maduro. Those are fishing boats. Those were honest fisherman.

Minnesota implicated in billions of dollars of fraud so the left starts insurrections against ICE as a distraction to see if it takes the focus off the Somali BS. Melissa Hortman was going to blow the lid off regarding the fraud and was assassinated.

The American left is the biggest group of hypocrites in the history of this country. You all change your perspective and focus to fit your current narrative.
 

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Honestly I never followed that story and don't know much about it and so I can't comment on it. Yes I think letting criminal and unrestricted illegals in was incredibly stupid by the Democrat party. And yes, I think criminal immigrants should be punished to the full extent of our laws and/or deported. I never denied that.

But you're making a red herring argument that isn't true. No one is up in arms about criminal aliens being deported. What they're protesting is families being torn apart, and illegal methods and excessive use of force of detaining otherwise law-abiding immigrants at their homes and place of business.

I don't think non-criminal illegals are much of a problem, and actually very important segments of our economy rely extensively on their labor. Admit it and don't be hypocritical, I'm sure most people on this board at one point or another had their roof work done by a company that hired illegals, and you probably didn't blink twice about it. Or purchased meat originating from a packing plant that hired illegals. I'm sure you didn't think twice about that decision either.
What kind of a loser dork buys store bought meat?