Make America Healthy Again

TigerGrowls

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In another epic win for MAHA, the White House just released new guidelines that turn the outdated Food Pyramid upside down!

Here are the new recommendations:

🐄•Protein Priority: Include protein-rich foods (e.g., meats, seafood, eggs, nuts) at every meal to support muscle health and satiety.

🥛•Dairy: Opt for full-fat, unsweetened dairy products like milk, cheese, and yogurt.

🥦•Vegetables and Fruits: Consume them in whole forms multiple times a day for essential vitamins and fiber.

🫒•Healthy Fats: Incorporate sources like avocados, olives, nuts, seeds, and fatty fish.

🍞•Grains: Emphasize whole grains; sharply reduce refined options like white bread and sugary cereals.

🍬•Limitations: Avoid or minimize highly processed foods, artificial additives, and added sugars; limit alcohol for optimal health.

💧•Hydration and Portions: Drink water or unsweetened beverages; tailor portion sizes to age, sex, body size, and activity level.

👶•Special Groups: Customized advice for infants, children, pregnant/lactating women, older adults, those with chronic conditions, and vegetarians/vegans, ensuring nutrient needs are met without over-reliance on supplements.
 
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dpic73

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He's going to kill us all.

Scientific consensus from bodies like the CDC, WHO, EPA, NTP, and systematic reviews (e.g., Cochrane, York Review) finds no convincing evidence linking optimally fluoridated water to these conditions. Risks appear primarily at much higher exposures (often >1.5–4 mg/L, common in naturally high-fluoride areas like parts of China, India, or Africa).
  • Arthritis — No established link at low levels. High chronic exposure can contribute to skeletal fluorosis (joint pain/stiffness), but this is rare and occurs at levels far above fluoridation (e.g., >8 mg/L).
  • Bone Fractures — Mixed evidence; some studies show increased risk at high exposures (>4 mg/L), but systematic reviews find no consistent association at fluoridation levels. Some suggest possible weak links in older adults, but not conclusive.
  • Bone Cancer (Osteosarcoma) — No credible evidence of increased risk. Early studies (e.g., one Harvard analysis) suggested a possible link in young males, but larger/follow-up studies (e.g., NCI, UK analyses) found none. IARC classifies fluorides as "not classifiable as to carcinogenicity in humans" due to inadequate evidence.
  • IQ Loss and Neurodevelopmental Disorders — The strongest concern. The 2024 NTP monograph found moderate confidence in an association between fluoride >1.5 mg/L and lower IQ in children (based mostly on studies from high-exposure areas). No clear evidence at 0.7 mg/L; some ongoing research on prenatal/low-level exposure, but current reviews (e.g., CDC, Australian NHMRC) find no convincing risk from fluoridation.
  • Thyroid Disease — Limited/moderate evidence of dysfunction (e.g., hypothyroidism) at higher exposures, but inconsistent and not established at fluoridation levels.
Benefits and Overall Safety
Community water fluoridation reduces tooth decay by ~25% in children and adults (per CDC and recent reviews), with the primary side effect being mild dental fluorosis (cosmetic spotting on teeth) in some children. Major health organizations (CDC, ADA, WHO) endorse it as safe and effective at recommended levels, with benefits outweighing risks.

Excess fluoride (from any source) can be harmful at high doses—like many substances (e.g., salt, iron). The key is exposure level. Claims linking fluoridation directly to these diseases often extrapolate from high-natural-exposure studies or overlook dose distinctions.

 
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TigerGrowls

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Scientific consensus from bodies like the CDC, WHO, EPA, NTP, and systematic reviews (e.g., Cochrane, York Review) finds no convincing evidence linking optimally fluoridated water to these conditions. Risks appear primarily at much higher exposures (often >1.5–4 mg/L, common in naturally high-fluoride areas like parts of China, India, or Africa).
  • Arthritis — No established link at low levels. High chronic exposure can contribute to skeletal fluorosis (joint pain/stiffness), but this is rare and occurs at levels far above fluoridation (e.g., >8 mg/L).
  • Bone Fractures — Mixed evidence; some studies show increased risk at high exposures (>4 mg/L), but systematic reviews find no consistent association at fluoridation levels. Some suggest possible weak links in older adults, but not conclusive.
  • Bone Cancer (Osteosarcoma) — No credible evidence of increased risk. Early studies (e.g., one Harvard analysis) suggested a possible link in young males, but larger/follow-up studies (e.g., NCI, UK analyses) found none. IARC classifies fluorides as "not classifiable as to carcinogenicity in humans" due to inadequate evidence.
  • IQ Loss and Neurodevelopmental Disorders — The strongest concern. The 2024 NTP monograph found moderate confidence in an association between fluoride >1.5 mg/L and lower IQ in children (based mostly on studies from high-exposure areas). No clear evidence at 0.7 mg/L; some ongoing research on prenatal/low-level exposure, but current reviews (e.g., CDC, Australian NHMRC) find no convincing risk from fluoridation.
  • Thyroid Disease — Limited/moderate evidence of dysfunction (e.g., hypothyroidism) at higher exposures, but inconsistent and not established at fluoridation levels.
Benefits and Overall Safety
Community water fluoridation reduces tooth decay by ~25% in children and adults (per CDC and recent reviews), with the primary side effect being mild dental fluorosis (cosmetic spotting on teeth) in some children. Major health organizations (CDC, ADA, WHO) endorse it as safe and effective at recommended levels, with benefits outweighing risks.

Excess fluoride (from any source) can be harmful at high doses—like many substances (e.g., salt, iron). The key is exposure level. Claims linking fluoridation directly to these diseases often extrapolate from high-natural-exposure studies or overlook dose distinctions.

Go ahead and buy you some fluoride to put in your water on top of what you get in toothpaste. Free world.
 

LafayetteBear

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It's being done by the deep state. There is a reason for why they do it and it's not to hurt people. I think it's probably about furthering control over the population.
Wait, wut?! RU serious?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The Deep State strikes again!! 🐘 🤡 :cool:
 

scotchtiger

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Hard to believe it took this long to revise the food pyramid and diet guidance. What the hell have our health officials been doing?


 
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TigerGrowls

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🚨 HOLY CRAP, FDA Commissioner Marty Makary CONFIRMED the FDA purposefully lied to the people for nearly 2 decades against dietary fats to help Big Pharma

People avoided fat and ate MORE SUGAR, so Pharma could sell them more drugs x.com/WallStreetApes…

RFK Jr. just declared open WAR on added sugar

“They suppressed the data for 16 years…Those in the low-fat group had higher rates of heart attacks!”

“We created a generation of children with low protein, high carbohydrates, sugar addiction, and burdened with ultra-processed foods, and what did we do as a medical field? Drugged them at scale!”

“Those days are OVER. We are telling people the truth about food.”

MAHA WILL WIN!
 

scotchtiger

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He said it’s hard to believe it took that long to replace. It didn’t. The visual representation used changed in 2011. I’m sorry it’s inconvenient.


Glad they did something. But did anyone know about it? I didn’t. And it’s still not as accurate as the new one.

We need to hammer nutrition into the minds of the American people. Teach it in schools. Advertisements. Everyone should know what is healthy, what isn’t, and why so many everyday American diet items are horrible for you and should be eliminated.
 
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UrHuckleberry

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Glad they did something. But did anyone know about it? I didn’t. And it’s still not as accurate as the new one.

We need to hammer nutrition into the minds of the American people. Teach it in schools. Advertisements. Everyone should know what is healthy, what isn’t, and why so many everyday American diet items are horrible for you and should be eliminated.
Wasn’t it part of Michelle Obama’s school lunch stuff? I thought that was the one thing you supported. It was announced etc, it’s just that no one really cares that much once they’re established in their life and habits lol
 

baltimorened

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Wasn’t it part of Michelle Obama’s school lunch stuff? I thought that was the one thing you supported. It was announced etc, it’s just that no one really cares that much once they’re established in their life and habits lol
I have a story about Michelle's school lunch program. I was on a school board at the time, left leaning school district, so naturally we got in line on the policies. It took about a month before the head of food service was before the board reporting on the impact. As some might expect, in the cafeterias,staff had to put trash cans at the end of the food line where students just picked half the mandatory items off their trays and dumped them in the trash cans. The amount of waste doubled. By the end of the day, last period teachers were complaining about student attention because they were all hungry.

I think the idea was good, but the kids preferred their burger and fries much more than the fruits and vegetables. From speaking with my grandkids, I don't think much has changed
 
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UrHuckleberry

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I have a story about Michelle's school lunch program. I was on a school board at the time, left leaning school district, so naturally we got in line on the policies. It took about a month before the head of food service was before the board reporting on the impact. As some might expect, in the cafeterias,staff had to put trash cans at the end of the food line where students just picked half the mandatory items off their trays and dumped them in the trash cans. The amount of waste doubled. By the end of the day, last period teachers were complaining about student attention because they were all hungry.

I think the idea was good, but the kids preferred their burger and fries much more than the fruits and vegetables. From speaking with my grandkids, I don't think much has changed
No doubt. But I think that would have to be a long term play. My son prefers junk food too, but if his only options are healthy, he adjusts or goes hungry until dinner...which will then be on the healthier side as well.
 

baltimorened

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No doubt. But I think that would have to be a long term play. My son prefers junk food too, but if his only options are healthy, he adjusts or goes hungry until dinner...which will then be on the healthier side as well.
likely then, he'll live longer than the rest of us whose cells are held together by all the chemicals we ingest.
 

UrHuckleberry

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likely then, he'll live longer than the rest of us whose cells are held together by all the chemicals we ingest.
He certainly likes processed food like the rest, but thankfully actually likes salads, a lot of veggies, and especially fruit. Won't touch things like casseroles or much food where things are mixed in general (other than like salads I suppose), but overall, we've been fortunate with what he likes and don't have to fight him too much on eating outside of him wanting to just snack all day.
 

baltimorened

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He certainly likes processed food like the rest, but thankfully actually likes salads, a lot of veggies, and especially fruit. Won't touch things like casseroles or much food where things are mixed in general (other than like salads I suppose), but overall, we've been fortunate with what he likes and don't have to fight him too much on eating outside of him wanting to just snack all day.
only 1?