OT: Notre Dame Not Happy

kupuna133

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Man I knew the ND fans are delusional but I had no idea their counsel would be just as delusional. Why would ND want to break their agreement with the ACC. ND has them bent over. Also in what world does ND think that the B1G and SEC will allow ND to park their Olympic and all sports but football with them? ND has the easiest way to the National Championship and they are still complaining.
 

RUGuitarMan1

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They should expand the playoff to 16 teams. Seed 1-16 . No byes. 16 vs 1, 15 vs 2 etc. 5 highest conf champs and 11 at large. 1st rd games on campus. Then the 8 winners meet in the New Years Bowls as they do now, etc. If GO5 conferences will only agree if their highest ranked is in playoff, require that team to be ranked in the top 25 and give them the 16 seed.
 

MADHAT1

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I wouldn't be surprised to lear ND is looking for a way to leave , especially after the ACC commish stated he had an obligation to fight for the football members of the ACC when it comes to getting playoff spots.
>“The University of Notre Dame is an incredibly valued member of the ACC and there is tremendous respect and appreciation for the entire institution,” Phillips said. “With that said, when it comes to football, we have a responsibility to support and advocate for all 17 of our football-playing member institutions, and I stand behind our conference efforts to do just that leading up to the College Football Playoff Committee selections on Sunday."<
 

kupuna133

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They should expand the playoff to 16 teams. Seed 1-16 . No byes. 16 vs 1, 15 vs 2 etc. 5 highest conf champs and 11 at large. 1st rd games on campus. Then the 8 winners meet in the New Years Bowls as they do now, etc. If GO5 conferences will only agree if their highest ranked is in playoff, require that team to be ranked in the top 25 and give them the 16 seed.
Said this exact thing when they expanded last year. The bye and the automatic seed of conference champs/g5 last year ruined the whole reason for expansion. When ASU and Boise get bumped to higher seeds and byes the committee lost all credibility. Once they bypassed 8 the only logical thing was 16.
 

Steve91562

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Well the NCAA should fine Notre Dame kike they did Kansas and Iowa State.
Also every 5-7 program that days it won't go bowling deserves punishment.
Naotre Dame might be a sore loser and not deserve what they're mad about not getting, but
what makes me mad is a 3 loss program that didn't win its conference championship being picked over a 5 loss ACC Champ that didn't deserve a spot but was more deserving ( in my opinion) then a 3 loss Bama squad .
Also feel Miami deserved its spot more than Notre Dame , but the imitation Irish deserved in the playoffs more than the 3 loss low Tide did..

Since loses don't matter for some and are the reason other are left out, let the playoffs be changed to 9 conferences have auto bids for their conference champions ( no matter what their W-L record) and add 7 at large bids .

edit, it was pointed out to me that the NCAA didn't fine Kansas and Iowa State, it was their Conference that fined them.
Here's what Iowa State said to Kansas after they received notice they would be fined

Bama beat Georgia during the regular season which gives them one quality win. At the end of the year they were tied with ND and Miami with a 10-2 record. Miami beat ND, therefore holds the head to head. They also beat common opponents by a greater margin. ND lost the two marquee matches with playoff teams, albeit closes losses, but still losses. They looked better as the year went on, but how much of that was a steady diet of bottom feeders and then a so-so USC. In the end ND just didn't have the quality win and lost the head to head versus Miami. This is not like a 13-0 FSU team being left out.

For the record, ND is probably a better team than Alabama, at the end, but they just didn't show it on the Feld when they had the opportunity this year against quality opponents. Beating up Syracuse doesn't change that conclusion. Even Rutgers with its worst in America defense would've beaten up on the Fruit. So even though some shenanigans, the selection wasn't w/o some logic.

And the shenanigans started with ranking ND above Miami. It's just that Bama + SEC > branding than ND. Miami only got in because the ACC was going to be left out in the cold.

Next year ND is guaranteed a spot if ranked in the top 12. Who bent over for that concession?
 
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Steve91562

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Rankings aren’t actually suppose to mean anything until the last one because the information is incomplete until all the games are played. Not sure we’ll see the weekly shows go away but there’s more clamoring for it. ESPN did pay for it.




All you have to do is remember the 13-0 Seminoles. Before that final game (which they won), they were in the four team playoff rankings. In the final rankings they're out, allegedly because their QB got season ending injury weeks earlier. But in the ranking leading up to the final game they were in.
 

Steve91562

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It's been discussed to death, but the notion of having two G5 teams in the CFP while Notre Dame (and arguable Texas) are out of the CFP seems off in some way.
It was never supposed to be the top 12 teams. It was always the top nine or ten and the AQs which are pity bids for the smaller leagues.
 
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RUTGERS95

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they should reduce the playoff to the top 4 conference pods winners. You do this by expanding the SEC and BIG to 24 each. The rest play head to head from top to bottom for a conference trophy based on wins. That would generate massive revenues, create more ownership in the games, interest, content, capture every single media market and most of the country and more.

would force ND to join a conference and bring in teams from the ACC and B12
 

mdk02

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ND in B10 would be huge…South Bend fits geographically…hockey already in B10…sports like lacrosse would be icing on the cake. Would love to see ND v Hopkins in lax.

And if ND insists on a deal to preserve their football television deal? I think neither the B10 nor SEC would put up with that favoritism

And if they do make a deal, would that mean a team would be dropped?
 
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I’m truly enjoying what a bunch of whinny self important aholes the south benders are being…not even Indiana’s best team ….lol
 

Colbert17!

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I can care less about ND and their football team. What makes them so special that the NCAA has to make special rules for them? Really sick of how everyone has to bend over for them. Join the B1G 10 or SEC as a football member and see what happens.
 
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RUAldo

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And if ND insists on a deal to preserve their football television deal? I think neither the B10 nor SEC would put up with that favoritism

And if they do make a deal, would that mean a team would be dropped?
ND’s leverage is at an all-time low so the B10 and SEC may be able to get them to fall in line. ND just isn’t “special” in this new era of playoffs, conference realignment, and NIL. Not to mention when IU is ranked #1 you can bet that doesn’t help South Bend who forever was the pride of the state of Indiana when it came to football.
 

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JL23

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As someone who experienced the snubs of all snubs in 2023, I can't say this enough...

Notre Dame - Eat ****. The conference, and its member schools, threw you a lifeline in 2020 w/Covid. You've done nothing but leech off the league prior to and since that point. Here's an idea - if you don't want to join a conference, then play a solid OOC schedule. You've got no one to blame but yourselves.

ACC - Get ******. For reasons mentioned before ad nauseum, this league is complete dog **** in every sense of the word. You didn't promote FSU once during the snub, but now promote other schools to get in? And you wonder why we sued your sorry ***, fleeced you in court, and will be leaving in a few years.

ESPN - Eat a bag of dicks. Putting a 3 loss Bama team in, undeservingly so, again, is literally making a mockery of the entire system. ND / BYU should have gotten in. Right now, the entire regular season, and conference championship games, are essentially meaningless.

WTBS, I don't blame ND for opting out. Personally, I wish FSU would have done the same thing vs. Georgia. College athletics, and particularly, college football, are one of the last pure things in life. Please, for the love of God, stop ruining it
 

yesrutgers01

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Don't think the are crying, they are negotiating a new TV contract ptobsbly be worth about 60 -75 mil a year, Their prigram valuation is 1.85 nil. They are letting the NCAA know that ND doesn't need them , they need ND. Think about this there is what 32 teams in the NFL. I can see a future where the top 30-35 football set up a league like the NFL, play their games on Saturday, maybe a Sunday night and Wednesday night game. They would break off from the NCAA some might think I am crazy. But let me ask you this, if in 1995 someone would have said in 30 years college players will be making millions to play college football you would have said they were crazy.
Then don't say it was player choice as they didnt want to give ESPN extra money. lol
 

RU Cheese

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I remember when the playoffs were 4 teams, and all of the expansion proponents said "no one will argue over the 12 v 13 teams, it's not the same"
 

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I remember when the playoffs were 4 teams, and all of the expansion proponents said "no one will argue over the 12 v 13 teams, it's not the same"
I don’t know if the thought was there wouldn’t be argument over wherever the cut line was but more that “it’s not the same” because the argument over 9-14 is less important than near 3-6. The farther down you go, the less consequential it is.

Whether it’s 16 or 24, I’ll take more on campus playoff games over bowls all the time. More opportunity for lower status programs to achieve a notable/meaningful goals as well.
 

bigmatt718

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ND’s leverage is at an all-time low so the B10 and SEC may be able to get them to fall in line. ND just isn’t “special” in this new era of playoffs, conference realignment, and NIL. Not to mention when IU is ranked #1 you can bet that doesn’t help South Bend who forever was the pride of the state of Indiana when it came to football.
ND had a grand total of ONE game where they were Top 20 in TV ratings: Their game vs Miami Opening Night. They're not as important as they think they are.
 
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