Sources: University of Utah nearing landmark private equity deal expected to generate $500 million
Ross Dellenger article on yahoo sports
This will be the end of college athletics, and for anyone that is on board with that private equity deal for the BIG, it was uneven distribution of finances, and leads to the loss of university autonomy. I don't fully understand why anyone would want this type of financial structure in college athletics. This would have been a 15 year deal, and it doesn't solve the actual problem with BIG universities outspending their profits.The Big Ten almost got a $2.4 billion capital deal across the finish line before at least two schools foiled the project.
I have to wonder what sort of power was given to the Private Equity Group (PEG). PEG's don't generally make deals without a lot of power if things don't go well.This will be the end of college athletics, and for anyone that is on board with that private equity deal for the BIG, it was uneven distribution of finances, and leads to the loss of university autonomy. I don't fully understand why anyone would want this type of financial structure in college athletics. This would have been a 15 year deal, and it doesn't solve the actual problem with BIG universities outspending their profits.
They won't have a say over staff and personnel, yeah right.I have to wonder what sort of power was given to the Private Equity Group (PEG). PEG's don't generally make deals without a lot of power if things don't go well.
This is a 7 year deal at max, and they are expecting to make back more than 500 million. I don't possibly see how that math can possibly work out. it is vague as to what revenue Otro will be collecting, but you can bet they will not be losing money.I have to wonder what sort of power was given to the Private Equity Group (PEG). PEG's don't generally make deals without a lot of power if things don't go well.
How do you possibly make that back in 7 years? Maybe the mafia couldThis will be the end of college athletics, and for anyone that is on board with that private equity deal for the BIG, it was uneven distribution of finances, and leads to the loss of university autonomy. I don't fully understand why anyone would want this type of financial structure in college athletics. This would have been a 15 year deal, and it doesn't solve the actual problem with BIG universities outspending their profits.
Funny that Michigan and USC say this is nothing more than a payday cash loan. Those programs are going no where.I want the BIG to still exist thru 2046 as this deal would make a reality.
Paying OSU extra to keep them in the fold is better than having OSU,mich, Oregon,USC and PSU leave the BIG and we are relegated to minor league status.
Wonder why Beth Goetz is on record as supporting it.Funny that Michigan and USC say this is nothing more than a payday cash loan. Those programs are going no where.
I think that Goetz has over 200 million in athletic department debt and this is a band aid. I think 5 institutions are hemmoraging money, although MSU is going to do much better with the $401 million donation. UCLA, Rutgers, Maryland, and even OSU have negative revenue. Other schools like Oregon see an uptick in financial distributions. It is a short term fix to a long term problem. The biggest concern would be what the media deals will be worth in 2030.Wonder why Beth Goetz is on record as supporting it.
Do we think the athletic directors in BIG and petiti are stupid?
Lot of business firepower in these institutions have analyzed this deal...stupid?
Well Fox owns BTN basically.Did not realize Iowa debt was that large
Outside of covid year Iowa has been in black or just below break even.
I know 2020 was a disaster but I thought it was 50 million in red, not 200.
Historically Iowa was one of handful of programs in black. I have tracked it for at least 25 years .
The issue on media is: are we in a bubble where sports programming is valuable to a number of suitors.
On the horizon could be massive consolidation in media( warner Bros to Netflix or sky dance).
That reduces bidders with price- fixing very possible.
This creates risk to futures revenues.
You reduce exposure to risk by getting partners that share risk .
Petiti is a media guy. He should see future trends early.
Delaney beat all other leagues to punch with BTN.
Maybe petiti knows something.
Fox owns 50%, schools own rest.Well Fox owns BTN basically.
That money that Iowa was was the covid year plus loans taken from the endowment for infrastructure . I haven’t seen any of the tv deals that you are discussing effecting the bidders for those deals. In fact Netflix could now become a bidder, as prime is as well. I will always be in favor of equal distribution, and maintaining autonomy.Did not realize Iowa debt was that large
Outside of covid year Iowa has been in black or just below break even.
I know 2020 was a disaster but I thought it was 50 million in red, not 200.
Historically Iowa was one of handful of programs in black. I have tracked it for at least 25 years .
The issue on media is: are we in a bubble where sports programming is valuable to a number of suitors.
On the horizon could be massive consolidation in media( warner Bros to Netflix or sky dance).
That reduces bidders with price- fixing very possible.
This creates risk to futures revenues.
You reduce exposure to risk by getting partners that share risk .
Petiti is a media guy. He should see future trends early.
Delaney beat all other leagues to punch with BTN.
Maybe petiti knows something.
Perfect world I agree with you.That money that Iowa was was the covid year plus loans taken from the endowment for infrastructure . I haven’t seen any of the tv deals that you are discussing effecting the bidders for those deals. In fact Netflix could now become a bidder, as prime is as well. I will always be in favor of equal distribution, and maintaining autonomy.
Personally the way that msu is going about it, is appealingPerfect world I agree with you.
But, I have to think all those athletic directors also agree with you yet are considering the alternatives.
Maybe getting bad advice?
Shifting landscape requires nimble business plan?
Just find a wealthy donor to drop in 400 mill?Personally the way that msu is going about it, is appealing
They are taking 100 million of that to start their own. Iowa doesn’t need 400 million. I mean it would be nice, but it’s a different situationJust find a wealthy donor to drop in 400 mill?
If we had that kind of money my wife would want to build a high rise hotel for rescue dogs.They are taking 100 million of that to start their own. Iowa doesn’t need 400 million. I mean it would be nice, but it’s a different situation
********, my type of woman.If we had that kind of money my wife would want to build a high rise hotel for rescue dogs.
Pic?If we had that kind of money my wife would want to build a high rise hotel for rescue dogs.
In bigtime college sports there have been 2 " black swan" events in last 5 yearsSo you're telling me that there all these millions of dollars in revenue through TV, tickets, merchandise, etc.... and this many universities are that much in debt.
Maybe they all need to take some of their own finance 101 courses? It's all just madness at this point.
Yeah, and then it says this "though the company will house several departments that traditionally fall under the university's athletic department, such as athletic personnel and divisions".They won't have a say over staff and personnel, yeah right.
That's a good question. Sometimes companies are run very shittily and they do come in and Febreze the **** to make it better.probably for the OT board, but is there anything Private Equity doesn't ruin?
Will this be like companies outsourcing janitorial services to Service Master?Yeah, and then it says this "though the company will house several departments that traditionally fall under the university's athletic department, such as athletic personnel and divisions".
Exactly. 2.4 billion through 2046 for 18 teams? I'm glad Michigan and USC torpedoed that proposal.If Utah can get $500M, the Big Ten in its entirety should be magnitudes larger.
You could have a cap for the schools portion. But outside NIL will always be there and you will lose in court if you try and limit what a kid makes off the field.At what point do universities and athletic programs decide to quit the arms race? Or have we reached the point of no return in terms of the reliance on athletic programs to generate revenue?
Is it possible for Iowa (as an example) to band together with other like-minded institutions and form a separate league w/ separate conferences, agree to a strictly enforced salary-cap, and play by a different set of rules? Where healthy revenue can still be generated to sustain the league, make it profitable (if not lucrative) for universities, and support an even playing field where money becomes a secondary factor in the success of a particular program?
You could have a cap for the schools portion. But outside NIL will always be there and you will lose in court if you try and limit what a kid makes off the field.