The Butler Did It!

Truewooper

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I don't think we face enough passing teams to justify a 3-4. The Big 10 is a run-heavy conference and 4 down lineman works better.
From what I have seen you can be just as good at run stopping with a 3-4 or 3-3-5. It really just depends. This year we had 5 DL on the line of scrimmage and still couldn't stop the run.

The x's and o's guys I listen to have said the problem this year were DL not being gap sound. And there being confusion some of our players were playing outside in on run fits vs some guys playing inside out on run fits. Seems to be a DL/LB/DB coaching issue.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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I think Butler is kind of a scapegoat, I'm getting some vibes of Riley firing Banker. Did great with the secondary but he inherited a really small d-line, not sure anyone could have done much better. This is more on Rhule for letting his roster management get that bad and also on the S&C/Nutrition people for players that didn't look/play the part. Linebacker coaches, DL coaches, OL coaches need to be reevaluated.
Matt is going to use every scapegoat in the book the next 2 years, until he runs of of them and the finger is finally pointed at him.
 

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From what I have seen you can be just as good at run stopping with a 3-4 or 3-3-5. It really just depends. This year we had 5 DL on the line of scrimmage and still couldn't stop the run.

The x's and o's guys I listen to have said the problem this year were DL not being gap sound. And there being confusion some of our players were playing outside in on run fits vs some guys playing inside out on run fits. Seems to be a DL/LB/DB coaching issue.
Yea the coach from the chiefs has been a huge disappointment. Haven't heard from him in a while. Having Chris Jones makes a difference.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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From what I have seen you can be just as good at run stopping with a 3-4 or 3-3-5. It really just depends. This year we had 5 DL on the line of scrimmage and still couldn't stop the run.

The x's and o's guys I listen to have said the problem this year were DL not being gap sound. And there being confusion some of our players were playing outside in on run fits vs some guys playing inside out on run fits. Seems to be a DL/LB/DB coaching issue.
You're not wrong. Some of that was also as simple as our DL letting themselves get turned
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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I guess my gut feeling is that TJ will hit the road. Hopefully he plays the bowl game either way. I have nothing to base this off of, I just think Rhule is going to sell his soul (again) to keep DR and TJ will be looking for a starting gig.
If TJ is reasonably healthy, he needs to play in the bowl game to recapture a lot of luster from the last 2 games, but more importantly to show others that he's healthy enough to take a look at.
 

mgbreeze

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From what I have seen you can be just as good at run stopping with a 3-4 or 3-3-5. It really just depends. This year we had 5 DL on the line of scrimmage and still couldn't stop the run.

The x's and o's guys I listen to have said the problem this year were DL not being gap sound. And there being confusion some of our players were playing outside in on run fits vs some guys playing inside out on run fits. Seems to be a DL/LB/DB coaching issue.
Yeah, the scheme doesn't matter so much when you've got guys like RVP and Lenhardt literally getting blocked 10+ yards down field. I've never seen so many examples of DLmen turning their backs and trying to put the brakes on.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Maybe, but can't see him getting a starting job somewhere worth it, unless he wants to go smaller.

Right now my guy says DR is looking for a starting spot somewhere else, I think that was his plan all along. Maybe I'm wrong.

If DR does leave, find some experience in the portal. Better spend some money in the trenches either way
DR looking for the job to being given to him would be typical.
 

Truewooper

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Yeah, the scheme doesn't matter so much when you've got guys like RVP and Lenhardt literally getting blocked 10+ yards down field. I've never seen so many examples of DLmen turning their backs and trying to put the brakes on.
Correct. RVP i hope it really is just the DL coach i had a lot of hope he would replace Ty and Nash.
 

mgbreeze

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DR looking for the job to being given to him would be typical.
I don't disagree with you, but it's pretty much SOP for P4 football for starters to leverage their situation into either more wins or more money or both. There's no reason for DR to NOT look around and he's not unique because he's doing it. I mean, I guess there could be one reason to not look around, and that would be to avoid becoming the next Nico Iamaleava.
 

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I don't.

Mark Whipple
Marcus Satterfield
Glenn Thomas
Dana Holgorsen

Arguably 3 of those coaches had great success at one point, but all look terrible at Nebraska. What's the common factor? All of them being dealt the hand of Donovan Raiola's OL coaching genius.
Satt always sucked statistically over a full season, Dana hadn't been good for a really long time, Whipple was good because of one QB. Some coaches are just bad...like Satt, but most are just dependent on having top of league talent. It is isn't rocket science. We don't have any NFL players, maybe a few late rounders but no really good football players. That is hard to do with so much money, to field a team that is devoid of professional type of football players.
 

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If TJ is reasonably healthy, he needs to play in the bowl game to recapture a lot of luster from the last 2 games, but more importantly to show others that he's healthy enough to take a look at.
I don't know specifics of TJL's injury but i would be very surprised to learn he has not healed in time to tame meaningful practice before the bowl game and subsequently start in the bowl. However, to put TJL in the same game plan that one would have for DR is a mistake and doesnt use TJL's talents to their full potential and will be a poor barometer to judge TJL.
 

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Dana hadn't been good for a really long time
His offenses in his last two years (2021 & 2022) were both top 20, I wouldn't call that a really long time.

Regardless, the offense has looked largely the same the past 5 years. Inconsistent run game, DL camping in the back field almost instantly, weird frequency of screen calls, WR's never seem to be open in time, etc.

I think its fair to assume the poor OL play has at least half, if not more to do with it. Donnie has now gotten a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th chance, I think its also fair to say Dana deserves a 2nd.

Also, very worth noting that Holgorsen's overall winning % blows Rhule's out of the water. He also has twice the number of bowl game appearances and far more wins against ranked opponents.
 
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cHUCK001

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Dana in his first full year get's a pass? This offense averaged 15 points a game in their last SEVEN. Butler sucked, but I would argue that his D outperformed Dana's O this year. Call his *** out as well. Maybe someone should ask Head Coach Dylan Raiola about this.
 

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I don't disagree with you, but it's pretty much SOP for P4 football for starters to leverage their situation into either more wins or more money or both. There's no reason for DR to NOT look around and he's not unique because he's doing it. I mean, I guess there could be one reason to not look around, and that would be to avoid becoming the next Nico Iamaleava.
DR gets a pay cut, not a raise
 

Kakdawg

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Need a splash hire here


Idgaf about a splash hire. I want the RIGHT hire. Before you ask I have no clue whonthat would be lol. Im not supposed to either . I'm just a casual fan. I will tell you what though i HATED the Satterfield initial hire. NEVER liked it at any point. I was also very worried about and didn't like the Butler hire. So if nothing else I had those two right.

Seriously though does splash equal best hire? I'd say no...



Hollla
 

Kakdawg

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So we're basically admitting we just pissed a year away. Sunk cost and all, so this is a good thing, but we have to stop pissing away seasons with ****** coordinators.

I don't disagree but he could've kept him around and pissed another year away lol. Better to cut bait as soon as u know u made a mistake.


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konaki

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You know whose worried in the BIG 10 about this News? NO ONE BUT NEBRASKA.
 

Wasker73

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Should have fired Matt's crony Snow. He ran White off and gummed up Butler's plan.
Are you sure after an extensive search that yields no qualified candidates, we (Rhule) are immensely pleased to announce Mr. Phil Snow has graciously agreed to accept our offer to be the next Defensive Coordinator at the University of Nebraska.
 

Wasker73

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Butler's plan?

Notice how the DB's were terrible when Butler was the position coach, then magically got better when he wasn't, but the defense as a whole got worse?
They were so happy to get Singleton back for his 10th-11th year. You would think the coaches would have come to the realization he can't play long ago.
 

Kakdawg

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Matt is going to use every scapegoat in the book the next 2 years, until he runs of of them and the finger is finally pointed at him.


Not for nothing but I THINK that's what mist head coaches do when the seat gets hot. He took the blame for both the last two games and said don't put it on the players and the coaches lol. THEN turned around and fired the DC šŸ˜‚


I kid but seriously what do you expect him to do or say? I screwed up a few coaching hires so I'm gonna fire myself and give yall this 40+ million dollars back???

I kiD but im sure u get the point....



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