Life lesson = don’t go to a ****** school
Better to go the CC route than a mediocre private like Rider.
OT: Rider University Circling the drain
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Better to go the CC route than a mediocre private like Rider.
Like RU95 said I would not wait until next semester to make the decision to move on. Spoke with an administrator (athletic department not academic) he said that there are many things in motion. Nothing set in stone with deadline or indication they will have accreditation “removed”. The biggest issue he says is financial versus academic. But there are rumors that many of their professors are actively looking for other landing spots and they may have a shortfall of “full” professors for next semester and may have to rely on adjunct professors. There is a formula for “academic health” (his words) that the accreditation provider uses. Part of that formula is strength of professorship adjunct versus full time professorship. Apparently Rider already had a high percentage of part time professors prior to this financial issue.
I am not a fan of the cc route but I agree with this. For the life of me, and my views on this are well known given the discussion on Clemson etc, but, it's a better option. I know a kid that didn't get into any top 30s, went to cc and then transferred after a year to Columbia.
Exactly, kick *** at a CC and transfer to a legit university. That’s the degree you will end up with.
My neighbor's son said his professors are telling him a lot of the same things you have stated.
Worked with a guy that had 3 kids and told all 3 he would only pay for college if they went this route. They could transfer wherever they wanted but they had to go to CC for 2 years first.
My Dad told me I could go anywhere I wanted... provided it was a state school.
This was back when any state school had a respectable tuition in or out of state.
TCNJ is in better financial shape than Rider, but they have their own issues. They are not going to merge or acquire Rider. I could see them trying to purchase some of the housing type properties if Rider were to shut down though.
More of these private schools will disappear in next 5 years. Public school satellite campuses also are shutting down. Don’t expect state schools to expand real easy footprints outside their core locations. Online education is changing the landscape. But schools expanding to areas to offer hands on experiences and partnerships with private industry may be something to watch.
agree
Covid and the fight with the return to office/classroom has changed the dynamic
It’s very popular in the rest of the country and even in NJ for counties that don’t begin with the letters Mo.
yes I get that and certainly appreciate the fully dynamic of it all. I am jaded on it as I want my boys to start at school and get acclimated, make friends, lay of the land, etc etc.. I have one more to go and we're planning our school visits etc, not withstanding some schools that are on our baseball circuit.It’s very popular in the rest of the country and even in NJ for counties that don’t begin with the letters Mo.
Supply and demand.
We’ve known for nearly 20 years that a plateau in US HS graduations followed by a decline was going to hit starting now. Combine that with already known very high college sticker prices and tighter student loans and then add today’s economic situation and a steep decline in new* international students and you get a perfect storm for a lot less demand.
* it was announced a couple of days ago that new international student enrollment is down 17% against 2024 and about 23% against 2023.
We’ve known for nearly 20 years that a plateau in US HS graduations followed by a decline was going to hit starting now. Combine that with already known very high college sticker prices and tighter student loans and then add today’s economic situation and a steep decline in new* international students and you get a perfect storm for a lot less demand.
* it was announced a couple of days ago that new international student enrollment is down 17% against 2024 and about 23% against 2023.
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My Dad said I could go anywhere I wanted. As long as it was NJ's state school.
Applied and visited out of state school. In the end got the "That's nice. You are going to Rutgers." Momma and Pappa knew best.
Right. Athletics is hemorrhaging money faster than Niagara Falls water flow that the university has no choice but to cover. This would never even be mentioned in the administration, let alone considered.
Their ALL in trouble, Rutgers too! The entire state of NJ is loaded with debt that it will never be able to repay. Margaret Thatcher said it best. "The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of others peoples money". While we are not there yet we have passed the point of no return.
This… unfortunately most in this country, conflate terms like fascism and socialism and capitalism, and don’t understand what any of them mean in reality…this country will get there soon enough…nyc electing jihadi boy may find out sooner than most think…
Rider’s a private college.
Please take the political talk elsewhere.
Please take the political talk elsewhere.
yup, very large 10 year drop is starting now
also why you saw many state colleges admitting record #s in the last two years and jamming them in, because they were told admit anybody with a ******* pulse and a checkbook
Well they had Kean take over NJCU rather than just sell it off to developers which would have been very lucrative based on the location.
I know someone who went to Rider a few years before you did. She has a similar account of what Rider was like. She says she is surprised Rider has lasted so long.
The Rider campus is only six minutes by car from TCNJ's, so TCNJ is the most likely school to take over Rider's campus.
Edit: I agree that it would make sense for Rutgers to have a small suburban campus. I wouldn't count on Rutgers having the vision to recognize that. And I am inclined to think that Rutgers, if it wanted a suburban campus, would want that campus close to the shore, an area that is much more underserved than Mercer County.
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Absolutely not. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear. Even if Rutgers wants another campus, Rider isn't the place to do it. It makes the most sense for TCNJ to take the place over assuming it stays a college campus.
I understand that TCNJ would like to replace its existing dormitories with village-style housing on the campus's perimeter. Maybe it would see the Rider campus as a site for that. My uninformed guess is that TCNJ would like to expand in other ways as well. Is it possible it might want professional schools? In any case, it's hard for me to see any other university wanting the Rider campus, although one never knows.
It would probably be best to plow down the Rider campus and make it a park (i.e., let the town use it). TCNJ doesn't need space miles away connected by buses.
Or maybe Lawrenceville School wants some of the buildings and assets?
I don't see anything wrong with your first suggestion; maybe there's no better use of the campus than as a park or some other municipal facility. Keep in mind, though, that Rider makes payments in lieu of taxes to the township, and those would be lost if the town itself took the campus.
The Lawrenceville School is on the other side of 295 and is actually a little further from Rider by car than TCNJ is. Why do you think the School is more likely than TCNJ to be able to make effective use of Rider's buildings and assets?