No room for tertiary colleges that don’t specialize in anything.
OT: Rider University Circling the drain
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No room for tertiary colleges that don’t specialize in anything.
I wonder if they will be rescued, like Montclair State rescued Bloomfield College and Kean rescued Jersey City.
Wasn't it not too long ago So Jersey Pols were dumping tons of cash on Rider after they couldn't wrestle control of RU Camden?
Maybe College of New Jersey.Probably their only hope. Think Princeton is interested?
Could see TCNJ swooping in and merging with Rider. If that happens would TCNJ move up to D1 in athletics?
I called it. I said Rider was a dead school walking. The tuition just can't be justified. It's a private school that isn't elite academically, religiously affiliated, or a boarding school for rich kids. My guess is TCNJ merges with them and possibly goes D1 in athletics.
Rider is the textbook example of a university that doesn't need to exist. Higher ed needs consolidation.
Actually, for a while junior colleges have served to get kids where they should be after HS and these schools are getting them up to 2 year degree. It should start with getting HS to where it should be.
What does any of what you posted mean? And what dos that have to do with Rider? Rider is a University not a county college or associate degree granting institution.
In the late 70’s, I was admitted to all the Piscataway/New Brunswick colleges of Rutgers, as well as Rider. I chose Rider for two reasons—size of the school/beautiful campus and New Brunswick being a complete dump in the 70’s. Rutgers, Devco, and many others have completely turned around the city, but it is still a city, which many students aren’t looking for. My one year at Rider was a disaster—Rider was a total party school with open use of cocaine everywhere. Heck, I didn’t even drink so I quickly decided I wasn’t going to waste my parents money there.I ended up commuting at Rutgers in Newark and graduated. Rutgers has a great opportunity coming soon in adding a scenic, suburban small campus that will appeal to many good students and their Mom and Dad. Rutgers is often viewed as an urban school with the campuses in New Brunswick, Camden, and Newark by those who have not seen Busch, Cook, and Livingston. Many New Jerseyans and others write it off because of that perception. Acquiring the Rider campus would open up the university to thousands of students who want to go to Rutgers, but want a campus with a very different environment in Larenceville than we currently provide. I already have possible names for Rutgers-Lawrenceville sports teams. Maybe go with Lakers, Colonials, or Capitals.
ha, I was just about to post that
I get what he's saying but he just threw out an orange when we're playing baseball
I never said Rider was a county college. I said it plays a role that county colleges should play, but they are playing a role that should be played by high schools. And it does so in an expensive way.
Being aligned with the Rutgers name would boost its academic reputation as Rider stinks academically. Both RU-Newark and RU-Camden are Top 100 nationally in USNews. A Rutgers-Lawrenceville satellite campus would move up quickly and like you said, give the students who want the Rutgers education with a more suburban campus feel.
Would there be enough demand for another campus so that you don't cannibalize the existing populations at Newark and Camden?
That's the million dollar question and would be feasible from a financial standpoint? I don't get paid to make that decision, thankfully lol.
All that matters is …..would RU Lawerence help build the season ticket base ?
Would any grads donate towards NIL or a field house ???
Would any grads donate towards NIL or a field house ???
I guess it depends on which direction they are coming from but I was factoring in that some of those commuters may find it more desirable to live on a suburban campus instead of going to classes in Newark or Camden.
If you say so. Not sure how replying to the above posts about Rider with.
“Actually, for a while junior colleges have served to get kids where they should be after HS and these schools are getting them up to 2 year degree. It should start with getting HS to where it should be.”
Gets you to your explanation but okay!
I can see making a Lawrenceville campus specific to graduate, law, politics etc…. Versus an undergraduate campus. Where Rutgers lacks is a presence in politics and state capital.
That actually makes a lot of sense with Trenton right down the street. Use the Rutgers-Lawrenceville campus as like a graduate school for law, poli sci, etc., and move both law schools out of Camden/Newark to Lawrenceville.
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Just from a #s perspective, it appears there are about 3,200 Rider undergrads. Newark has about 8,000, Camden has 4,000. The Rutgers #s include full and part time.
While this is a good conversation, we should not expect that Rider is simply going to close shop in a year or two.
They are not the first school to face financial difficulties. The moves announced seem like a serious attempt to fix their expense issues. If their total enrollment drops, then that would be a more concerning sign.
My own alma mater went through financial difficulties when I attended but those were more from the revenue side. They enacted budget cuts/freezes and reworked their admissions process. It took time before they were on sound financial footing but they turned the university into a perennial Top 50 school in the process.
To be clear, I’m not saying that that’s what will happen with Rider, but with a sound plan they can fix things. I understand that their new president has a background with schools facing financial difficulties so clearly they made the hire knowing what was ahead of them.
They are not the first school to face financial difficulties. The moves announced seem like a serious attempt to fix their expense issues. If their total enrollment drops, then that would be a more concerning sign.
My own alma mater went through financial difficulties when I attended but those were more from the revenue side. They enacted budget cuts/freezes and reworked their admissions process. It took time before they were on sound financial footing but they turned the university into a perennial Top 50 school in the process.
To be clear, I’m not saying that that’s what will happen with Rider, but with a sound plan they can fix things. I understand that their new president has a background with schools facing financial difficulties so clearly they made the hire knowing what was ahead of them.
In today’s environment of declining college enrollment and universities closing around the country, how does a school like Rider maintain enrollment levels when rumors of its impending demise are swirling?
I can't imagine TCNJ has the $ or political support to have NJ give them the $. TCNJ's endowment was $69M for FYE 6/30/24.
Are you saying that it’s impossible for anyone to message a turnaround plan in today’s day and age?
If enrollment drops, then it could be the end. If it remains stable then they will have time to see things through and potentially right the ship. How their alumni base responds will also play a role.
Why hit “reply” if you are going to change my question into something I didn’t say or imply?
I was talking to a neighbor and their son, he attends Rider. They are very concerned at the prospect of Rider losing its accreditation. They have been told that if Rider were to lose its accreditation, then no Rider course credits would be accepted at another institution should the student want to transfer. I said do you mean credits obtained after accreditation is lost and they said no. Regardless of when the credits were obtained that no other school would accept Rider credits for transfer if Rider lost accreditation. A decision regarding accreditation is supposed to occur in March.
sounds like they need to get their kid out of there and transferred to another school
sucks to have the upheaval but this is a life lesson