History And A Projection

redwine65

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3 of Oregon’s starting O linemen are portal additions this season. We need to be able to develop our own to get better IMO. Maybe get a guy or two if we can but I don’t think buying 3 guys year in and year out is a sustainable business model
I agree, whatever works..like some say Pritchett is starting to get it...but can he do that all next year? is that a roll of the dice? do we need a solid back-up incase? these are the questions that need to be addressed soberly
 

cestrup

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Exactly what the **** is trolling about what I posted? It's 95% factual and then an observation.
Settle down ol boy. Im saying getting people to fight on a message board then watching them fighting from afar is being a troll
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Settle down ol boy. Im saying getting people to fight on a message board then watching them fighting from afar is being a troll
My post isn't intended to get people to fight, maybe just rather they open their eyes. I'm not fighting from afar, I believe I've addressed every single comment on this topic.

Exactly what did I say that would be trolling? An opinion is not a troll. Eveything I said is true.
 
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He was given the job. They could have designed the same quick pass concepts for Dylan which could have minimized his mistakes.
That is where I question your comment. When I watch TJ I see a kid who has much quicker feet and a quicker release. The release is measured from when the QB sees the receiver and then makes the throw. It appears that TI just sets up quicker, finds the open receiver and gets rid of the ball quicker.

All that said, it was one game against a very bad D so we really may not know much yet. Certainly you call plays conducive to your talent but you don’t overhaul the playbook.
 
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My post isn't intended to get people to fight, maybe just rather they open their eyes. I'm not fighting from afar, I believe I've addressed every single comment on this topic.

Exactly what did I say that would be trolling? An opinion is not a troll. Eveything I said is true.
Cesspool is the troll, why he is so in tune with the finer nuances of the sad practice.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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That is where I question your comment. When I watch TJ I see a kid who has much quicker feet and a quicker release. The release is measured from when the QB sees the receiver and then makes the throw. It appears that TI just sets up quicker, finds the open receiver and gets rid of the ball quicker.

All that said, it was one game against a very bad D so we really may not know much yet. Certainly you call plays conducive to your talent but you don’t overhaul the playbook.
That's fair criticism, just remember some on here would take issue with that. I don't.
We have a pocket of fans that see absolutely no flaws in DR's game.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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What If the QB was like Harper Murray and mocked the shooting of Charlie Kirk?
That has zero bearing to what is being discussed here.
DR, for sure, and TJ spend all their interview time being complimentary toward others.

Where do you get an unconnected thought like that?
 

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DR is not going anywhere. Stop talking like that. He's going to be our number one unless he can't come back from injury.
Most of these unknown posters have to be trolls and they are very irritating acting like a Nebraska fan. Geez I’m happy we have two reliable quarterback compared to Rhules first season, Dylan got us to a bowl game last year for the first time in eight years. We’re. 7-3 and Dylan is a big part of the 6 wins. To all you fake neb fans go pound sand
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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show some respect for a veteran! And go back to the Iowa board
First of all, since April 19, 1974, I'm an Honorably Discharged Air Force veteran, you got it??

Other than a year in 1970 when I lived in Virginia and the 3 years I spent in the Air Force, I've lived in Nebraska for 67 years.

Been a NU fan since 1962. Have NEVER been on or visited ANY team website other than this one.
Virtually every thing you said is bullsh*t, So get your facts straight kiddo.
 
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Baxter48

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First of all, since April 19, 1974, I'm an Honorably Discharged Air Force veteran, you got it??

Other than a year in 1970 when I lived in Virginia and the 3 years I spent in the Air Force, I've lived in Nebraska for 67 years.

Been a NU fan since 1962. Have NEVER been on or visited ANY team website other than this one.
Virtually every thing you said is bullsh*t, So get your facts straight kiddo.
I apologize and thank you for your service! i will say when you post don’t write a book, youll lose most people, make a direct and to the point. You do have good points just keep it simple and direct
 
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We’re not married to Dylan Raiola. TJ is exactly the kind of quarterback that can win in college. I’ll be pissed if we lose him.
It doesn't matter what some think. Dylan was the best thing to happen to NU in a long time. If you don't think he has won that locker room you are mistaken. He's not going anywhere. Coach Rhule is not going anywhere.
 
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It doesn't matter what some think. Dylan was the best thing to happen to NU in a long time. If you don't think he has won that locker room you are mistaken. He's not going anywhere. Coach Rhule is not going anywhere.
He’s a PR genius. He’s pretty questionable as a quarterback.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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I apologize and thank you for your service! i will say when you post don’t write a book, youll lose most people, make a direct and to the point. You do have good points just keep it simple and direct
No need for an apology. As far as the request to not write a book, no can do.
Not to be a smarta*s, but I've yet to run out of space on the many posts I've written.

Being direct to the point is good, but this is likely a 70/30 pro-Dylan issue, so my choice is to
include relevant background information. Followed by Dannen's motive.

As a professional handicapper my game is based on details, and the more details the better.
 

Bleed The Red

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And UGA recruited over him

If he leaves, it’ll be for Miami or somewhere like that where they can once again hand him the job to OP’s point

Not somewhere he’ll have to compete
Georgia didn't recruit over Dylan. Wow that's a troll statement and a complete lie and fact! :ROFLMAO:

From Dylan's Jr year in HS all the way through Ohio St and Georgia til he flipped to us, he was the number 1 ranked QB in the nation and most of that time as well, he was the number 1 recruit in the country. I followed his recruitment from the beginning. I never thought he'd even give us another look after how badly Frost fk'd up his official visit by prioritizing getting fk's up with his buddies instead of being there for it. No team will over recruit the number 1 at any position period. Maybe do something that's apparently foreign to you, which is research instead of throwing crap up against the wall and hoping it sticks like normal! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

As a matter of fact, it was his dad that convinced him to give us another look after Rhule was hired as he had pretty much written us off and was gonna stay with Georgia.

Sadly something that will never change is the recruiting bias towards DONU. So many times in the past, we've had highly ranked recruits commit to us and somehow after their commit's their final rankings bottomed out. Dylan dropped from number 1 to number 3 after he flipped to us after spending the better part of 2 years at number 1. The only one that was really immune to it was Callahan as we had commits that made enormous jumps in the final rankings. You don't argue with a dude that's in the national recruiting HOF which Callahan is a member of. He had already been inducted into it before he left to do his 1st coaching stint in the NFL.
 
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My post isn't intended to get people to fight, maybe just rather they open their eyes. I'm not fighting from afar, I believe I've addressed every single comment on this topic.

Exactly what did I say that would be trolling? An opinion is not a troll. Eveything I said is true.
I didn’t call your post a troll and I wasn’t even responding to you originally. I actually agree with your OP and he is entitled.
 

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No need for an apology. As far as the request to not write a book, no can do.
Not to be a smarta*s, but I've yet to run out of space on the many posts I've written.

Being direct to the point is good, but this is likely a 70/30 pro-Dylan issue, so my choice is to
include relevant background information. Followed by Dannen's motive.

As a professional handicapper my game is based on details, and the more details the better.
why do you dislike Dylan so much? So your a professional gambler?
 

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I think NU fans are even more emotional than your regular football fan. Lateef has a bad game against PSU and people will be clamoring for Trae Taylor.
 

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Georgia didn't recruit over Dylan. Wow that's a troll statement and a complete lie and fact! :ROFLMAO:

From Dylan's Jr year in HS all the way through Ohio St and Georgia til he flipped to us, he was the number 1 ranked QB in the nation and most of that time as well, he was the number 1 recruit in the country. I followed his recruitment from the beginning. I never thought he'd even give us another look after how badly Frost fk'd up his official visit by prioritizing getting fk's up with his buddies instead of being there for it. No team will over recruit the number 1 at any position period. Maybe do something that's apparently foreign to you, which is research instead of throwing crap up against the wall and hoping it sticks like normal! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

As a matter of fact, it was his dad that convinced him to give us another look after Rhule was hired as he had pretty much written us off and was gonna stay with Georgia.

Sadly something that will never change is the recruiting bias towards DONU. So many times in the past, we've had highly ranked recruits commit to us and somehow after their commit's their final rankings bottomed out. Dylan dropped from number 1 to number 3 after he flipped to us after spending the better part of 2 years at number 1. The only one that was really immune to it was Callahan as we had commits that made enormous jumps in the final rankings. You don't argue with a dude that's in the national recruiting HOF which Callahan is a member of. He had already been inducted into it before he left to do his 1st coaching stint in the NFL.
I meant at this point if he chooses to enter the portal

Duh
 

dinglefritz

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Most of these unknown posters have to be trolls and they are very irritating acting like a Nebraska fan. Geez I’m happy we have two reliable quarterback compared to Rhules first season, Dylan got us to a bowl game last year for the first time in eight years. We’re. 7-3 and Dylan is a big part of the 6 wins. To all you fake neb fans go pound sand
Easy isn’t trolling. Bigboxes like myself would rather not have to deal with the possibility of Dylan leaving but in today’s NIL transfer world the possibility is real. Look at Carson Beck leaving Georgia for Miami. The days of a returning starter graciously competing for his job are over.
 

dinglefritz

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No, no I’m not. In fact, I doubt I’ve ever even interacted with you. So what the hell are you even talking about?
You’re irritating at times. Sarcastic at times. Overly negative at times. But I don’t think you’re trolling🤔
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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why do you dislike Dylan so much? So your a professional gambler?
It's not a matter of liking or disliking Dylan. He's not all this and that. He's done very well for himself and his career has been managed at every turn. That always leads to entitlement.

I'm not a professional QB evaluator, but those who are, find many faults in his overall game. He has obvious arm talent, yet he almost refuses to really rifle the ball in tight spots when its needed. He also is not good at the long ball.

We all know about his lack of footspeed and inability to escape the pocket. He surely holds the ball too long waiting for a play to develop and generally gets a free pass from the coaches in that area.

I'm glad he's the QB because he had done a lot of peer recruiting which is helping the program build, yet, I do know how kids are after having coached for almost 30 years, and things are not always as they seem.

My fear is due to his lack of mobility, and our OLine's inability to keep him safe in the pocket would be another lower leg/shoulder injury and then he will have a very steep hill to climb. I prefer to not see the young man walk out of college with a limp, but at least he will have a pocket full of money, and that's never a bad thing.

Dominic should be complimented for being able to move Dylan from one situation to another, all the while really never having to compete for a job. That doesn't last forever as Deion/Shadeur have found out. In he NFL, they don't give a crap who your daddy is, its gonna be about production.

As far as my background, I never allow personalities to enter in my decisions. I'm all about performance.
The right haircut, the right headband, the need to look pretty when a throw is made makes no difference to me when it comes to on-field performance.
 
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The huge DR fans won't particularly like this, but it tells a story.

2021 DR in TX, given the job without ever throwing a pass.
2022 DR in AZ New school, same story.
2023 DR in GA, transferred in immediately handed the keys.
Signed with and withdrew from both Georgia and Ohio State.
Signed with NU, given the job without throwing a pass.

He's never had to compete for the starting job, why leave GA and OSU when he would have to compete.
Why no push for him to try to win the job from WIll Howard or Carson Beck?

Metric Raiola (8 1/2 games) Lateef (1 game)
Time to throw 3.1 sec avg 1.9 sec avg (PFF)
Sacks taken 28 (3.1 per game) 0
Yards per designed run 1.1 6.8
3rd down conversions 38% 62%
Explosive plays 4.2 per game 7
Deep ball accuracy 38.7% (12/31 on 20+ yard throw) Unknown
Longest completion 42 yards on a YAC to EJ ++
Under pressure 41.2%, 4 INT's, 5 fumbles obvious

Dannen doesn't care who starts, he cares who wins. Dannen doesn't care who the QB is. He cares that the best one plays, and the money follows. Dannen is here to monetize the program, to awaken a sleeping giant. His objective will be a transparent QB competition next year and may the best man win. Are there portal issues that can result? Yes.

Matt's career has been about survival, he doesn't make changes until it threatens his survival. He panicked last year after UCLA and brought in Dana. He has a problem with Donovan Raiola because he fears the Raiola name.
Dannen was not brought here to write blank checks, in a win at all costs arrangement. He was brought here because he was a compromise between Midwest ties, woke academia and history/friends if friends with MR....The dude is a cuck.
 

dinglefritz

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How about 13-9?
It’s pretty tough to put all the Ws and Ls on a QB. There are a plethora of other factors that contribute to the record and his stats. it still is a team sport with coaches. TDs to INTs coupled with his rushing and passing yards can be a fair measure if 2 QBs are playing behind the same O line with the same play caller.

You would have to factor in some manner the level of defense they were playing against too. No doubt there’s an analytics dude out there who could plug it in to a formula and spit out a number. I don’t think QBR takes in to account the defensive matchup but I could be wrong. It’s why I say, let’s give TJL a few more games before we place the thorny crown on him.

QBs are best measured historically and even then debate is likely. I love to listen to coaches break down video of players especially QBs.
 

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The huge DR fans won't particularly like this, but it tells a story.

2021 DR in TX, given the job without ever throwing a pass.
2022 DR in AZ New school, same story.
2023 DR in GA, transferred in immediately handed the keys.
Signed with and withdrew from both Georgia and Ohio State.
Signed with NU, given the job without throwing a pass.

He's never had to compete for the starting job, why leave GA and OSU when he would have to compete.
Why no push for him to try to win the job from WIll Howard or Carson Beck?

Metric Raiola (8 1/2 games) Lateef (1 game)
Time to throw 3.1 sec avg 1.9 sec avg (PFF)
Sacks taken 28 (3.1 per game) 0
Yards per designed run 1.1 6.8
3rd down conversions 38% 62%
Explosive plays 4.2 per game 7
Deep ball accuracy 38.7% (12/31 on 20+ yard throw) Unknown
Longest completion 42 yards on a YAC to EJ ++
Under pressure 41.2%, 4 INT's, 5 fumbles obvious

Dannen doesn't care who starts, he cares who wins. Dannen doesn't care who the QB is. He cares that the best one plays, and the money follows. Dannen is here to monetize the program, to awaken a sleeping giant. His objective will be a transparent QB competition next year and may the best man win. Are there portal issues that can result? Yes.

Matt's career has been about survival, he doesn't make changes until it threatens his survival. He panicked last year after UCLA and brought in Dana. He has a problem with Donovan Raiola because he fears the Raiola name.

The huge DR fans won't particularly like this, but it tells a story.

2021 DR in TX, given the job without ever throwing a pass.
2022 DR in AZ New school, same story.
2023 DR in GA, transferred in immediately handed the keys.
Signed with and withdrew from both Georgia and Ohio State.
Signed with NU, given the job without throwing a pass.

He's never had to compete for the starting job, why leave GA and OSU when he would have to compete.
Why no push for him to try to win the job from WIll Howard or Carson Beck?

Metric Raiola (8 1/2 games) Lateef (1 game)
Time to throw 3.1 sec avg 1.9 sec avg (PFF)
Sacks taken 28 (3.1 per game) 0
Yards per designed run 1.1 6.8
3rd down conversions 38% 62%
Explosive plays 4.2 per game 7
Deep ball accuracy 38.7% (12/31 on 20+ yard throw) Unknown
Longest completion 42 yards on a YAC to EJ ++
Under pressure 41.2%, 4 INT's, 5 fumbles obvious

Dannen doesn't care who starts, he cares who wins. Dannen doesn't care who the QB is. He cares that the best one plays, and the money follows. Dannen is here to monetize the program, to awaken a sleeping giant. His objective will be a transparent QB competition next year and may the best man win. Are there portal issues that can result? Yes.

Matt's career has been about survival, he doesn't make changes until it threatens his survival. He panicked last year after UCLA and brought in Dana. He has a problem with Donovan Raiola because he fears the Raiola name.
So you are suggesting the coaches in TX never watched him throw a pass in practice and never watched his 8th grade games or film of it and determined this kid is better than what we have now? And, he must not have thrown any passes at his TX school if his AZ coaches gave him the keys without ever seeing him throw a pass. By the time he got to GA, wasn't he already considered one of the top HS QBs in the country? If Quniten Ewers had transferred to Millard North for his senior year, you don't think coaches would have immediately handed him the keys without him throwing a pass in a MN game? Your premise has zero logic.

By the time the Flores kid reached his freshman year, Gretna knew he was going to be their QB for the next four years. The school even changed its no freshman can play varsity football rule for him. He might not have started the first game as a freshman, but there was no doubt he was going to be the regular QB. Why? Because the HS coaches were aware of him and had followed his development prior before his freshman year, and although they had a good kid in place who was going to be a senior, he did not have the arm talent Zane already had coming out of 8th grade. Same reason some 7th and 8th grade bball players step are penciled into a starting spot on their HS team before they ever set foot inside the highschool halls. These guys don't step onto a field or court as a freshman without ever having picked up a football or basketball
 

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Georgia didn't recruit over Dylan. Wow that's a troll statement and a complete lie and fact! :ROFLMAO:

From Dylan's Jr year in HS all the way through Ohio St and Georgia til he flipped to us, he was the number 1 ranked QB in the nation and most of that time as well, he was the number 1 recruit in the country. I followed his recruitment from the beginning. I never thought he'd even give us another look after how badly Frost fk'd up his official visit by prioritizing getting fk's up with his buddies instead of being there for it. No team will over recruit the number 1 at any position period. Maybe do something that's apparently foreign to you, which is research instead of throwing crap up against the wall and hoping it sticks like normal! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

As a matter of fact, it was his dad that convinced him to give us another look after Rhule was hired as he had pretty much written us off and was gonna stay with Georgia.

Sadly something that will never change is the recruiting bias towards DONU. So many times in the past, we've had highly ranked recruits commit to us and somehow after their commit's their final rankings bottomed out. Dylan dropped from number 1 to number 3 after he flipped to us after spending the better part of 2 years at number 1. The only one that was really immune to it was Callahan as we had commits that made enormous jumps in the final rankings. You don't argue with a dude that's in the national recruiting HOF which Callahan is a member of. He had already been inducted into it before he left to do his 1st coaching stint in the NFL.
You mean he was gonna stay at Georgia and be a backup to Carson Beck, that's why Dominic was shopping for a situation for Dylan to just step in. Believe it or not, there are a LOT of schools out there where a QB like DR doesn't fit in their plans. I know back in the day, TO wouldn't have given DR a second look cause he wasn't gonna change our offense to include a QB who can't present a threat as a runner.

Luckily he found a .500 coach who doesn't seem to mind being told what to do.