Dylan and Lateef audition time

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I’m pretty confident that Dylan has an arm or hand problem that might need some surgical intervention. They admitted to a throwing hand issue early in the year.
If that is the case, then that surgery should be eminent since his leg injury has knocked him out for the rest of the year. No reason to delay the repair if he indeed has that issue.
 

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If that is the case, then that surgery should be eminent since his leg injury has knocked him out for the rest of the year. No reason to delay the repair if he indeed has that issue.
Yeah. Dunno. He’s thrown a fair number of wobbly ducks this year that I didn’t recall seeing last year. It might be nothing more than a dead arm syndrome kind of thing too where he just needs time off. His hand was an obvious problem early and i think he’s underthrown just about every pass longer than 25-30 yards I’ve seen him throw this year.
 

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Yeah. Dunno. He’s thrown a fair number of wobbly ducks this year that I didn’t recall seeing last year. It might be nothing more than a dead arm syndrome kind of thing too where he just needs time off. His hand was an obvious problem early and i think he’s underthrown just about every pass longer than 25-30 yards I’ve seen him throw this year.
Dead legs is a thing for middle distance runners. My kid was perhaps too conditioned early and was pressing to complete with kids in the 800 (relay) and 1600. I could see it coming on, but dead legs really hit him at the big statewide invite a month before states and he was garbage at the 1600, his favorite race in high school. He went back solely to base running and was able to put together his best 800 at the state meet. The conditioning stayed intact, he just needed to let the leg muscles get springy again.
It sucks for NU, but this could end up being a bonus for Raiola. Rehab, get into breaking your season down on film early, and get some rest.
 

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I feel badly for Dylan. But I’m excited about the opportunity for Lateef. I’m very much a Dylan fan, and I feel terrible for him and the team.

That said, I am a mobile QB fan-a-holic. I miss the mobile QB. And, if Lateef has a good last 3 games, let the QB controversy begin.
TJ is just a place holder and truth, and here are the reasons why. While TJ may be able to run the ball and has a cannon of an arm, he still doesn't have as good of an arm as Dylan as he can make all the throws when given the time to do so as this OLs Pass Pro is far worse than atrocious as well as great touch on his passes which is also something that TJ does not have nor did he in HS. TJ doesn't possess Dylan's athleticism or intangibles either. Prime examples, TJ couldn't have done what Dylan did against Michigan as well, being under fire all game long and taking 7 sacks while throwing it for 308 yards at a 72.09% comp rate and almost led us back to a win which we shoulda won that game anyway. TJ could never pull off plays like he did against Minnesota be completly laid out completing a shovel pass or a left handed throw or other plays throughout the season the left wondering how the heck he pulled that off as some were just unbelievable highlight reel plays. TJ never had that ability in HS but Dylan did. Last, he doesn't possess Dylan's iron will mentality as he never had it before he got here and is something he won't be able to develop while here as you either have it, or you don't. 98% or more of the problems Dylan has had this year is solely on the OL as the extremely horrid OL play especially Pass Pro is probably the worst we've ever seen here. I can pretty much say in confidence that if Dylan was at Ohio St, Sayin isn't starting as even he doesn't possess what Dylan does and fact. Matter of fact, if their roles were reversed Sayin would get destroyed here and not be able to do half of what Dylan's done here. Guaranteed, Sayin wouldn't have been able to do what Dylan did against Michigan as he's nowhere near as athletic a Dylan and Sayin isn't fleet of foot either.

There was a legit reason Dylan was a 5* and TJ was a low 4*
 
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TJ is just a place holder and truth, and here are the reasons why. While TJ may be able to run the ball and has a cannon of an arm, he still doesn't have as good of an arm as Dylan as he can make all the throws when given the time to do so as this OLs Pass Pro is far worse than atrocious as well as great touch on his passes which is also something that TJ does not have nor did he in HS. TJ doesn't possess Dylan's athleticism or intangibles either. Prime examples, TJ couldn't have done what Dylan did against Michigan as well, being under fire all game long and taking 7 sacks while throwing it for 308 yards at a 72.09% comp rate and almost led us back to a win which we shoulda won that game anyway. TJ could never pull off plays like he did against Minnesota be completly laid out completing a shovel pass or a left handed throw or other plays throughout the season the left wondering how the heck he pulled that off as some were just unbelievable highlight reel plays. TJ never had that ability in HS but Dylan did. Last, he doesn't possess Dylan's iron will mentality as he never had it before he got here and is something he won't be able to develop while here as you either have it, or you don't. 98% or more of the problems Dylan has had this year is solely on the OL as the extremely horrid OL play especially Pass Pro is probably the worst we've ever seen here. I can pretty much say in confidence that if Dylan was at Ohio St, Sayin isn't starting as even he doesn't possess what Dylan does and fact. Matter of fact, if their roles were reversed Sayin would get destroyed here and not be able to do half of what Dylan's done here. Guaranteed, Sayin wouldn't have been able to do what Dylan did against Michigan as he's nowhere near as athletic a Dylan and Sayin isn't fleet of foot either.

There was a legit reason Dylan was a 5* and TJ was a low 4*
I hope Lateef is more than a place holder because who knows what Dylan will look like going into next spring.
 

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I hope Lateef is more than a place holder because who knows what Dylan will look like going into next spring.
I see it this way, it's a good thing for Dylan as he can see things from the other side allowing him to learn, grow and become better. This worked wonders for a former player we all know well. This person had a knee injury and wasn't a go for the spring, instead he shadowed his DL coach who also happened to be the DC and soaked in as much as he could and that dude's name was Ndamukong Suh and look what it did for him. Dylan has this kind of mentality as he's more than just uber competitive, he also has a winner's mentality which is something you can't teach as it's ingrained. Look who his dad was and his accolades while here and the NFL. If we had an actual OL, no one would even be talking about this as Dylan wouldn't be hurt right now and everyone would be seeing what Dylan's truly all about playing wise plus we'd be 9-0.

On a side note on Suh, the difference between him being the greatest defensive linemen in the modern era which he is and the greatest player of all time, The Heisman which he was screwed out of as he already had every major award he could possibly have given his position except the Heisman and is the only player in history to have all that he did. He also got screwed out of being the number 1 pick in the draft.
 
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TJ is just a place holder and truth, and here are the reasons why. While TJ may be able to run the ball and has a cannon of an arm, he still doesn't have as good of an arm as Dylan as he can make all the throws when given the time to do so as this OLs Pass Pro is far worse than atrocious as well as great touch on his passes which is also something that TJ does not have nor did he in HS. TJ doesn't possess Dylan's athleticism or intangibles either. Prime examples, TJ couldn't have done what Dylan did against Michigan as well, being under fire all game long and taking 7 sacks while throwing it for 308 yards at a 72.09% comp rate and almost led us back to a win which we shoulda won that game anyway. TJ could never pull off plays like he did against Minnesota be completly laid out completing a shovel pass or a left handed throw or other plays throughout the season the left wondering how the heck he pulled that off as some were just unbelievable highlight reel plays. TJ never had that ability in HS but Dylan did. Last, he doesn't possess Dylan's iron will mentality as he never had it before he got here and is something he won't be able to develop while here as you either have it, or you don't. 98% or more of the problems Dylan has had this year is solely on the OL as the extremely horrid OL play especially Pass Pro is probably the worst we've ever seen here. I can pretty much say in confidence that if Dylan was at Ohio St, Sayin isn't starting as even he doesn't possess what Dylan does and fact. Matter of fact, if their roles were reversed Sayin would get destroyed here and not be able to do half of what Dylan's done here. Guaranteed, Sayin wouldn't have been able to do what Dylan did against Michigan as he's nowhere near as athletic a Dylan and Sayin isn't fleet of foot either.

There was a legit reason Dylan was a 5* and TJ was a low 4*
First of all, Dylan has very limited athleticism. Second of all, DR would be a backup at both OSU or GA. He wouldn't have just been handed the job day one like he was at NU. Before you get all goo goo about him you might want to read what the real pros say about his overall QB skills.
 

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I see it this way, it's a good thing for Dylan as he can see things from the other side allowing him to learn, grow and become better. This worked wonders for a former player we all know well. This person had a knee injury and wasn't a go for the spring, instead he shadowed his DL coach who also happened to be the DC and soaked in as much as he could and that dude's name was Ndamukong Suh and look what it did for him. Dylan has this kind of mentality as he's more than just uber competitive, he also has a winner's mentality which is something you can't teach as it's ingrained. Look who his dad was and his accolades while here and the NFL. If we had an actual OL, no one would even be talking about this as Dylan wouldn't be hurt right now and everyone would be seeing what Dylan's truly all about playing wise plus we'd be 9-0.
As dominant college football players its very easy to compare Dylan to Suh, voted the most dominant college football player of the 2000's. Reality check time, forget the NIL money, he's rated mid pack in the BIG QB's.
 

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As dominant college football players its very easy to compare Dylan to Suh, voted the most dominant college football player of the 2000's. Reality check time, forget the NIL money, he's rated mid pack in the BIG QB's.
I'm talking Dylan's lineage of who his dad was. A winning mentality is ingrained, not acquired. Read the finished post
 

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I see it this way, it's a good thing for Dylan as he can see things from the other side allowing him to learn, grow and become better. This worked wonders for a former player we all know well. This person had a knee injury and wasn't a go for the spring, instead he shadowed his DL coach who also happened to be the DC and soaked in as much as he could and that dude's name was Ndamukong Suh and look what it did for him. Dylan has this kind of mentality as he's more than just uber competitive, he also has a winner's mentality which is something you can't teach as it's ingrained. Look who his dad was and his accolades while here and the NFL. If we had an actual OL, no one would even be talking about this as Dylan wouldn't be hurt right now and everyone would be seeing what Dylan's truly all about playing wise plus we'd be 9-0.
The problem is we will never have an actual OL as long as his uncle is here, and possibly by extension as long as Dylan is here too. I like Dylan I just don’t see his potential ever being fully realized here. I hope he transfers to Miami or an SEC school so he has a chance at the next level.
 

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First of all, Dylan has very limited athleticism. Second of all, DR would be a backup at both OSU or GA. He wouldn't have just been handed the job day one like he was at NU. Before you get all goo goo about him you might want to read what the real pros say about his overall QB skills.
Wrong answer about his athleticism as you don't have to be a runner to be athletic. That laid out shovel pass in the Minnesota game is athleticism and other things he's done, The Michigan game is another example.
 

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I'm talking Dylan's lineage of who his dad was. A winning mentality is ingrained, not acquired. Read the finished post
I read the entire post and shook my head most of the time. Daddy doesn't guarantee sh*t. Maybe if Dylan were an OLineman he could have been groomed to excel. How many legacy kids have we had that were better than their dad's? The majority are not.
 

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First of all, Dylan has very limited athleticism. Second of all, DR would be a backup at both OSU or GA. He wouldn't have just been handed the job day one like he was at NU. Before you get all goo goo about him you might want to read what the real pros say about his overall QB skills.
All Behind a worse than garbage OL. Nobody has gotten a chance to see what he can do behind a stellar OL as he's never had one while here.
 

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Wrong answer about his athleticism as you don't have to be a runner to be athletic. That laid out shovel pass in the Minnesota game is athleticism and other things he's done, The Michigan game is another example.
You'll lose an argument about DR's athleticism all day long buddy. The first requirement to athleticism is a large number of fast twitch muscles, of which DR has only a few. It's not his fault, he just lacks them. DR runs like an offensive lineman.
 

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Now you're starting to stray away from the topic at hand.
All Behind a worse than garbage OL. Nobody has gotten a chance to see what he can do behind a stellar OL as he's never had one while here. Having a great OL makes your QB shine.
 

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All Behind a worse than garbage OL. Nobody has gotten a chance to see what he can do behind a stellar OL as he's never had one while here. Having a great OL makes your QB shine.
The most dangerous opponent in college football is a true dual-threat QB who can hurt you with his legs.
 

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Now you're starting to stray away from the topic at hand.
No I'm not bud, your opinions are excuses for the truth at hand. Truth TJ isn't half of what Dylan is. God forbid Dylan transfers and goes to a team that has a stellar OL and he lights it up then that makes your point here a mut one
 

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The most dangerous opponent in college football is a true dual-threat QB who can hurt you with his legs.
There are only 30-40% of Dual threats in the league, the majority are not. They are dangerous, but dual threats usually aren't world beaters in the passing game but there are some that are
 

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There is only 30-40% of Dual threats in the league, the majority are not. They are dangerous, but the dual threats usually aren't world beaters in the passing game but there are some that are
We're not talking about the league, we're talking about DR's lack of athleticism.
There are multiple teams in the BIG that DR could not even start for.
 

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We're not talking about the league, we're talking about DR's lack of athleticism.
There are multiple teams in the BIG that DR could not even start for.
Julian Sayin is the same boast as Dylan, he has no twitch and is not fleet of foot. The difference is, he has a stellar OL and Dylan has a better arm than he does and all of this is truth. So what is your excuse to this one.
 

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No I'm not bud, your opinions are excuses for the truth at hand. Truth TJ isn't half of what Dylan is. God forbid Dylan transfers and goes to a team that has a stellar OL and he lights it up then that makes your point here a mut one
"Excuses?" I see you edited your original post... You realize there are a lot of teams out there that have systems in place that wouldn't function with a kid having no mobility and chronically holds the ball too long?

We're not really being disrespectful to each other here and that's a good thing. Its a difference of opinion and I doubt seriously DR has the ability to shove my words down my throat.
 

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Julian Sayin is the same boast as Dylan, he has no twitch and is not fleet of foot. The difference is, he has a stellar OL and Dylan has a better arm than he does and all of this is truth. So what is your excuse to this one.
DR would be his backup, as well as multiple other schools in this conference. Are we done yet?