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SuperBigFan69

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Bo was woefully lacking in the area some fans value most - the ability to pretend he's their buddy.

I never really thought Bo was great coach. But every hire NU has made since has gone a long way toward convincing me otherwise.
This is 100% what the main issue was!
 

Baxter48

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so Pelini was a good recruiter?
I’d say average, he had some decent players but lacked in numbers, his biggest blunder was he d capitalize on suh success he couldn’t sell it to recruits , he could have had a top ten defensive every year had he been able to sell it but he failed miserably
 

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I also blame TO for jumping ship on the big 12 for the big 10. Bo did have decent players to play In the big 12 but we needed different type player to play in the big 10 , and actually we still haven’t adjusted our roster to be a consistent winner in the big 10
 

Man Woman & Child

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Ferentz Is both somehow Their best coach ever, and yet Very Bo Pelini like minus the yelling. I'd say Iowa has settled, but no, that is their ceiling I imagine without a Curt Cignetti type hire, which I don't see happening.

And if Bo acted more like Ferentz, he may still be here.
 
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Man Woman & Child

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When we hired Rhule, I dug into his 2019 season heavily and there were a ton of warning signs. My thread on the original rivals forum was not received well by the koolaid club, but it has been 100% true.

For one, the combined record of his opponents was sub .500, and he had multiple squeaker games against teams with losing records (triple OT against 7 loss TCU and 1 score wins against 9 loss Rice, 7 loss West Virginia)

That was an incredibly weak year for the Big 12, and is a total outlier on his resume.

You should take that TCU game with a grain. The Baylor / TCU rivalry is pretty bitter (or at least it used to be) and those types of games can always go all kinds of sideways.

The rest of your point remains though.
 

Man Woman & Child

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No clue how to find it on this board. It was under my original handle “Thall” titled something like “a closer look at Rhule’s 11-3 season”

no doubt @Headcard remembers because he became super emotional over the course of many pages and assured me Rhule was the next Nick Saban

He does that

Wait, headcard is a "he"? I always just assumed that was a chick. Definitely argues like a girl. Are you sure?
 
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SuperBigFan69

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And if Bo acted more like Ferentz, he may still be here.
You mean if he conspired with the AD to get insane raises for accomplishing nothing at all, ran a program where minorities felt like they were treated poorly, violated state hiring rules to hire his own son and ended up as the coach with the most Big Ten losses ever?

I love Bo but I guess if we are taking all of that into account we dodge a bullet.
 

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If we are going entire careers then Mike Riley has 17 wins against ranked teams. 6 of those being top ten wins. Based on that he has proven he can win a big game which Rhule hasn’t been able to do and would makes Riley the better coach.
 

Man Woman & Child

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You mean if he conspired with the AD to get insane raises for accomplishing nothing at all, ran a program where minorities felt like they were treated poorly, violated state hiring rules to hire his own son and ended up as the coach with the most Big Ten losses ever?

I love Bo but I guess if we are taking all of that into account we dodge a bullet.

Hahaha well, when you put it that way
 
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So now, if I understand this correctly.

We are now discussing the very good players that Bo had (and recruited) and how he won a lot of games...

But TO is still saying that Bo should not have been a P4 coach? Good lord.
Bo should not have been the head coach at NU. He didn’t have the psychological make up to survive as a P4 head coach. There’s WAY more to being a head coach than your record but the blow out losses were evidence as well. IF he was P4 head coach material why didn’t somebody else hire him? He lasted exactly one year as LSU’s DC after they brought him back. He was fired after multiple blowout losses with all kinds of NFL talent on his defense.

To top it off he failed as a head coach at YSU. I wish Bo and his family well. I hope he’s happier than he was at Nebraska.
 
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SuperBigFan69

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Bo should not have been the head coach at NU. He didn’t have the psychological make up to survive as a P4 head coach. There’s WAY more to being a head coach than your record but the blow out losses were evidence as well. IF he was P4 head coach material why didn’t somebody else hire him? He lasted exactly one year as LSU’s DC after they brought him back. He was fired after multiple blowout losses with all kinds of NFL talent on his defense.

To top it off he failed as a head coach at YSU. I wish Bo and his family well. I hope he’s happier than he was at Nebraska.
He took YSU to a NC game, didn't he?

Also, everyone goes on all the time about how if they did not have to work, they would not work anymore. He achieved that.

Look, I am an amazing teacher, probably one of the very best teachers to ever teach. But, the second I am financially stable, I am not going to keep working.

I know Bo did not like you (or me) as fans, but trust me, he liked us all as people. He spoke (his brother as well) as some lame things I was at and they are a blast and they like people.

Matt also doesn't like you (or me) as fans. They think we are annoying.
 
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He always seemed like a decent guy. Not sure why a few on here have a problem with him.
@Headcard is all the worst traits of a sports fan in one package.

no self-awareness or consistency, total blinders on and not able to levy criticism at his own team.

he/she is also a chiefs homer, and would hilariously claim most Husker losses were due to poor reffing, but accuse anyone critical of reffing in a chiefs game as a conspiracy theorist.
 
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Headcard

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@Headcard is all the worst traits of a sports fan in one package.

no self-awareness or consistency, total blinders on and not able to levy criticism at his own team.

he/she is also a chiefs homer, and would hilariously claim most Husker losses were due to poor reffing, but accuse anyone critical of reffing in a chiefs game as a conspiracy theorist.

Thank you for your continued, unhinged obsession through all your screen names. It is appreciated.
 

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Bo should not have been the head coach at NU. He didn’t have the psychological make up to survive as a P4 head coach. There’s WAY more to being a head coach than your record but the blow out losses were evidence as well. IF he was P4 head coach material why didn’t somebody else hire him? He lasted exactly one year as LSU’s DC after they brought him back. He was fired after multiple blowout losses with all kinds of NFL talent on his defense.

To top it off he failed as a head coach at YSU. I wish Bo and his family well. I hope he’s happier than he was at Nebraska.
No one has hired Saban or urban
 

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Bo should not have been the head coach at NU. He didn’t have the psychological make up to survive as a P4 head coach. There’s WAY more to being a head coach than your record but the blow out losses were evidence as well. IF he was P4 head coach material why didn’t somebody else hire him? He lasted exactly one year as LSU’s DC after they brought him back. He was fired after multiple blowout losses with all kinds of NFL talent on his defense.

To top it off he failed as a head coach at YSU. I wish Bo and his family well. I hope he’s happier than he was at Nebraska.
The bloners will never admit that truth. They think defending him will somehow prove something (nobody knows what that is, because he’s not gonna **** them like they apparently want him to). He should have been an NFL position coach, and he would have been perfectly happy. Instead he took a job, but he’d constantly ***** about it, tried to get multiple other jobs, and hated recruiting. He literally stated those things time after time. Imagine being such a pathetic loser… that pines for that as the head of your program. At one point he was a legit defensive mind and coach. Never was head coach material. There’s nothing wrong with that. Blaming anything other than him for his failures is the sign of a butthurt excuse making person. What a miserable person you have to be to believe he was some kind of victim.
 

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I also blame TO for jumping ship on the big 12 for the big 10. Bo did have decent players to play In the big 12 but we needed different type player to play in the big 10 , and actually we still haven’t adjusted our roster to be a consistent winner in the big 10
The biggest problem with our program is the fact it is stinking rich, while being one of the worst programs over the last 10 years. We are in the top 10 in total revenue despite never finishing close to the top 25, and often finish in the bottom half of college football. There is no natural accountability. On top of this there is a "culture" that exists that has to be met...the guy has to be a "Nebraska" guy, which means we get a bunch of meat heads like Trev, Scott, and his coaching staff that were nepo babies. There is zero professionalism needed because the worst that can happen is you get booed and have to go home to your gated mansion and private country club, and the earlier you get fired, the larger the unearned buyout. The Nebraska way should be hire a hungry, no name, make him work towards his 2nd contract, if it fails fine, start over. Clean house, everybody in the stadium for the last 10 years, gone. Load with incentives or once they prove something up the pay to be competitive. Our soft schedule has covered the poor coaching for two years, but that will end next year, and we will take pretty much anybody as long as we can fired them without major penalty...buyouts need to stop, there needs to be a well-paid general manager that manages NIL, Transfers, and PR and the head coach needs to coach players, positions, and play calls. The pay needs to be split between OC, DC, Head Coach, and General Manager...coordinators get one year contract, and are gone if they don't get the job done. Recruiting comes down to money now, no need for security for players. Get the best teachers and coaches and players will stay anyway. We don't want players who have to "like" their coach, or think he is "chill".
 
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The biggest problem with our program is the fact it is stinking rich, while being one of the worst programs over the last 10 years. We are in the top 10 in total revenue despite never finishing close to the top 25, and often finish in the bottom half of college football. There is no natural accountability. On top of this there is a "culture" that exists that has to be met...the guy has to be a "Nebraska" guy, which means we get a bunch of meat heads like Trev, Scott, and his coaching staff that were nepo babies. There is zero professionalism needed because the worst that can happen is you get booed and have to go home to your gated mansion and private country club, and the earlier you get fired, the larger the unearned buyout. The Nebraska way should be hire a hungry, no name, make him work towards his 2nd contract, if it fails fine, start over. Clean house, everybody in the stadium for the last 10 years, gone. Load with incentives or once they prove something up the pay to be competitive. Our soft schedule has covered the poor coaching for two years, but that will end next year, and we will take pretty much anybody as long as we can fired them without major penalty...buyouts need to stop, there needs to be a well-paid general manager that manages NIL, Transfers, and PR and the head coach needs to coach players, positions, and play calls. The pay needs to be split between OC, DC, Head Coach, and General Manager...coordinators get one year contract, and are gone if they don't get the job done. Recruiting comes down to money now, no need for security for players. Get the best teachers and coaches and players will stay anyway. We don't want players who have to "like" their coach, or think he is "chill".
This is 100% spot on. Those that can’t see it are the real problem in the fan base.
 
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SuperBigFan69

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The bloners will never admit that truth. They think defending him will somehow prove something (nobody knows what that is, because he’s not gonna **** them like they apparently want him to). He should have been an NFL position coach, and he would have been perfectly happy. Instead he took a job, but he’d constantly ***** about it, tried to get multiple other jobs, and hated recruiting. He literally stated those things time after time. Imagine being such a pathetic loser… that pines for that as the head of your program. At one point he was a legit defensive mind and coach. Never was head coach material. There’s nothing wrong with that. Blaming anything other than him for his failures is the sign of a butthurt excuse making person. What a miserable person you have to be to believe he was some kind of victim.
No one thinks he was a victim.
You act like a victim, but also try to act super macho, it is super weird.
 

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He took YSU to a NC game, didn't he?

Also, everyone goes on all the time about how if they did not have to work, they would not work anymore. He achieved that.

Look, I am an amazing teacher, probably one of the very best teachers to ever teach. But, the second I am financially stable, I am not going to keep working.

I know Bo did not like you (or me) as fans, but trust me, he liked us all as people. He spoke (his brother as well) as some lame things I was at and they are a blast and they like people.

Matt also doesn't like you (or me) as fans. They think we are annoying.
So fans don't provide any money to the coaches? Is it all from donors? Or are coaches stupid. My experience being around coaches is that they are often really stupid in the sense of awareness and consciousness of the world around them and how things work. Their minds being wrapped up in if a guy has got the right hips, or burst, or good hands, active hands, size, strength, speed...this is why I advocate away from hiring CEOs as coaches because they likely suck as a CEO being that they are a coach, and instead hire a literal CEO of football or general manager, and pay the coaches less to do the coaching. The collective group should decide on recruits and then the coaches build the scheme around the talent...recruiting to a scheme just shows weak coaching ability.
 

SuperBigFan69

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So fans don't provide any money to the coaches? Is it all from donors? Or are coaches stupid. My experience being around coaches is that they are often really stupid in the sense of awareness and consciousness of the world around them and how things work. Their minds being wrapped up in if a guy has got the right hips, or burst, or good hands, active hands, size, strength, speed...this is why I advocate away from hiring CEOs as coaches because they likely suck as a CEO being that they are a coach, and instead hire a literal CEO of football or general manager, and pay the coaches less to do the coaching. The collective group should decide on recruits and then the coaches build the scheme around the talent...recruiting to a scheme just shows weak coaching ability.
I think that you are right and I think that "recruiting to a scheme" for the most part is BS and just coach-speak and sports radio talk BS.

Now, there are exceptions of course, like option QB's and stuff like that, but good players can pretty much play in any scheme.

It is probably different for other sports though, like basketball, where a lot of coaches want that stretch 4 and that 5 that can shoot a three.
 

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He took YSU to a NC game, didn't he?

Also, everyone goes on all the time about how if they did not have to work, they would not work anymore. He achieved that.

Look, I am an amazing teacher, probably one of the very best teachers to ever teach. But, the second I am financially stable, I am not going to keep working.

I know Bo did not like you (or me) as fans, but trust me, he liked us all as people. He spoke (his brother as well) as some lame things I was at and they are a blast and they like people.

Matt also doesn't like you (or me) as fans. They think we are annoying.
Even if Rhule doesn't like the fans (overall I bet he does) he at least acts like he appreciates the fans.

Pelini just liked to cry about the fans & came off as if they were the reason for any of his team's failures.
 

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So creepy seeing a few posters obsess so much over another poster. Like they have man crush with each other talking about someone they obsess. So weird