This is what you all asked for
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I'd rather win 38-28 than 20-10.21-21 2nd Q.
I am an Iowa fan also. The program existed before KF and will exist after him.
So that removes any and all remaining doubt that you are absolutely biased in your opinions and perspective on Iowa football.
You guys are really something else.
How could my points be wrong, when I've made no points? I simply asked a question.
I guess I should have put it in poll form. But I merely asked people if they'd feel more comfortable with it 21-21 or 7-7 in the 2nd Q.
So infer whatever wrong points out of that that you wish. Everyone else seems to be.
Smh
No ****.
The question was whether you'd feel more comfortable with it 21-21 or 7-7, in the 2nd Q.
It's still on the table if you wish to give an answer
Saying you'd prefer 7-7 because you'd rather have a defense that can shut the other team down is making "no points" and simply asking a question?
God you're the worst
I would feel much more comfortable with a 7-7 game in the 2nd Q, compared to a 21-21 game.
Too much of my time got wasted correcting dumbasses. And honestly, I would assume the reasoning for a 7-7 preference is obvious. Have you guys watched Iowa football in the last 27 years?
I have a hard time believing anyone who says they feel more comfortable with a 21-21 game in the 2nd Q is being honest with themselves, or has a clue how football works. I have a hard time believing that their entertainment needs are not forming that argument.
People have said they are more comfortable in a 21-21 game because they are confident PP will make the proper adjustments. (Easy to say after the way that game went down, btw).
But there is no need for adjustments from PP if the D has only given up 7. Even with confidence in PP's adjustments, having only given up 7 would be a situation that gives me much more reason to believe that the D is going to do its thing in the game.
Only having given up 7 is a scenario where the D will probably be able to sink its teeth into the game. Once that happens, especially with good special teams, it presents many possible ways to win, even with next to zero offensive production.
We saw that Fri. Once the D got its teeth into to the game, it was Iowa's game. It just wasn't as obvious that that was going to happen as it would have been in a 7-7 game.
Basically, Iowa has more control over a 7-7 game, than they do at 21-21.
There are a lot more ways for Iowa to win lower scoring games. Whereas, higher scoring games require the offense to outscore people, even given defensive adjustments.
The below link gives additional commentary on the advantages of lower scoring games for Iowa, for those who haven't been paying attention for 27 years. Post #66 in the link
Post in thread 'This is the most entertained I have been watching an Iowa game since the days of Nate Stanley…' https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/...-days-of-nate-stanley….8290024/post-171363599
Dude, Brian's not coming back. The quicker you get your mind around that, the quicker you'll be able to process, move on, and hopefully feel better.
You've been doing this for 3 days.
Not a thing to do with Brian, here. Don't know what else to tell ya
Lol, sure thing tiger.
What's funny about your latest Jerry Maguiresque manifesto is your comment...
"People have said they are more comfortable in a 21-21 game because they are confident PP will make the proper adjustments. (Easy to say after the way that game went down, btw)."
You started this thread on Friday at 9:09 pm when the game was 21-21. So you don't like the fact that others are using what actually happened in the 2nd half of that game to reinforce their position... meanwhile your whole attempted "flex" via this thread when you started it was based on what actually happened in the 1st half. Lol.
And….he makes up scenarios that fit HIS beliefs, when an equal number of scenarios can be provided to support 21-21.
To call people who don’t toe the line to his way of thinking “dumb*sses” “clueless”, and “not knowing how football works” is arrogance and condescension of the highest degree.
He is not the savant he thinks he is. His way isn’t always the best way, and his beliefs aren’t always the right ones. In fact, it is often just the opposite.
He is entitled to his opinions (which he presents as facts). So is everyone else. Just because they are different than his doesn’t make them “dumb*sses”, “clueless”, or that they “don’t know football”.
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Oh it's so funny and they've been doing it forever, trying to make everyone else understand why having the worst offense in FBS football is actually a GOOD thing. Because... complimentary football. Lol. So, so funny.
There was NO attempted flex. How many times do we have to go over this?
How is a simple QUESTION, are you more comfortable at 21-21 or 7-7, a flex?
If I did happen to have been concerned that Iowa was going to lose (I wasn't), it wouldn't have been something I would have taken a bit of satisfaction in, that would have been required for a flex.
No one used the PP adjustments logic until after the game. So like I said, quite convenient.
You are really embarrassing yourself in this thread
Of course I am. You're clearly owning everyone here. Your intellect is pretty staggering.
I don't mean to be arrogant. A lot of people who are right end up getting called that.
But I absolutely despise certain types of sports fans. You find a lot of them on this board. And I have no problem being condescending or rude to them.
They are bad for Hawkeye athletics and sports in general. They can make it harder for my team to win and I absolutely take it personally
Oh my god this is great. Please don't ever leave this board, and please keep posting. Lol.
If Iowa is down 10-7 late in the 4th with the worst ranked offense in FBS I have very little confidence they can score to win or tie.
If Iowa is don 45-42 late in the 4th with the 50th ranked offense I feel good about their chance to tie or win.
You keep talking about our D getting their teeth into a game. And you’re right against the Nebraska’s, Minnesota’s, NW’s. But in our really successful years where we won legit bowl games, beating LSU, South Carolina, Florida, etc we also were able to score points. We haven’t been competitive against a top 25 team since that Penn State game that got us up to number 2 in the rankings. It’s been blow out city. Our defense played incredible against Michigan in the B1G championship and we still got blown out. We lost the 1 game we had a chance to make the playoffs against M St because we scored 1 touchdown.
And if Iowa is ahead 45-42, there is no reason to believe the D can hold the lead. Ahead 10-7 late gives much more confidence the D can hold the lead. This has been covered already.
21-21 or 7-7 in the 2nd Q? Care to take a crack?
Until a team like ISU who knows PPs tendencies and uses them against him.
ISU runs a side line, Iowa covers and then blows by Sebastian for the catch and they are in FG range for the win.
Don't every want to see that again or hear post game comments from an Iowa defender about how they were tricked using their own tendencies to beat them.
What about when it's inside of 2 minutes, we have the ball, we're losing but a successful final drive would give us the lead with little to no time left on the clock?
I'm talking last possession, final drive and it's Iowa’s ball and they are behind.
Your scenario is just the opposite.
So it's 50/50 based on the scenario.
You've not proved that one score is better over these 2 scenarios to win both.
He's still mad about Brian.
Yes, we've had plenty of opportunities like the one you describe above, last possession, that could've been Ws with a decent offense.
And if it was on the defense I don't feel good about them stopping the other team when they know they've now got 4 downs to make a 1st to move the ball.
Nu2u claimed I was digging myself into a hole.
My best guess is that he was trying to say something similar to the people who have accused me of backtracking and eating my own flex in this thread.
But the flex is something that only exists in your minds. And I have challenged and refuted with supporting logic that claim in posts #36, 42, 45, 51, 52, 54, 89, 125, 149, 154, 167, 179
Nu2u claimed I was digging myself into a hole.
My best guess is that he was trying to say something similar to the people who have accused me of backtracking and eating my own flex in this thread.
But the flex is something that only exists in your minds. And I have challenged and refuted with supporting logic that claim in posts #36, 42, 45, 51, 52, 54, 89, 125, 149, 154, 167, 179
The defense that he has such confidence in to hold a lead late sure didn’t work out so well against Kentucky and Missouri in bowl games, last year vs. Iowa State, etc. Note that all 3 of those games could have been won if the OFFENSE had been able to pick up a late first down or two, or put together a late scoring drive. There were also games like Minnesota in ‘23 and Iowa State this year where the Hawks had plenty of time to drive into position for a game winning/tying field goal attempt (in the Minnesota game they only needed 15-20 yards), but failed to move the ball. There are others…these are just the ones off the top of my head.
It works both ways. Unfortunately some folks don’t understand that.
Yeah @eyesofhawk subscribes to the KF church of crappy offense, taking very few offensive risks, punting and playing field position, and letting the defense and/or special teams bail you out in the end. It's a very effective strategy for winning close, low-scoring games against crappy opponents. But it's also the reason that, any time we get in vs. a good-to-great-to-elite opponent, we get our doors blown off. We don't just lose, we lose embarrassingly bad. And even worse, we already know going into those games that we have zero chance to win.
Has nothing to do with the comparison I made.
But since you brought it up...ISU ran a wheel route vs Castro when Iowa happened to be in "man" coverage.
Iowa is a notorious "zone" team. So no, PP's tendencies were not used against him
Appreciate the effort to get through to him, and I agree, but psst...he's trolling. Just like 95% of the time.