This is what you all asked for
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We are a good team, but would have been elite with a good offense. Do you deny the offense cost us wins?
You have the right to criticize whatever you want. That doesn't make it the right thing to do.
Criticizing the offense is criticizing Hawkeye football
Guys, where is your confusion coming from?
AGAIN, there was NEVER A THING mentioned about concern that Iowa was going to lose the game.
AGAIN, I had my 2nd largest wager of the year on Iowa. That means I felt Iowa had a significant edge in the game. If I felt that strongly that Iowa had a significant edge in the game, why would I freak out about a tie game in the 2nd Q? I wouldn't and didn't.
My only point was that I would feel a lot more comfortable in a lower scoring game.
Nowhere did I say Iowa was going to lose because they were giving up too many points. Did my other in-game threads communicate a concern that Iowa was going to lose? No. One communicated praise for the coach after a missed Iowa FG. And the other communicated praise for the lack of pre-snap penalties. That was also posted during a 21-21 2nd Q tie
Post #102.
Also laughed at his mischaracterization. Nowhere have I claimed both good offense and good defense are not attainable.
Also laughed at him saying I need to watch more football. That's is quite hilarious to anyone who knows me.
So, yeah, pretty laughable post all the way around
Has some connection to the Ferentzi. F5n5 was the biggest fluffer. It was definitely a member of the family.
He's trying to rewrite history. Him and the CM guy were total Ferentz family bootlickers and if you ever criticized KF or BF they were there, on the spot, defending them and telling us how lucky we were to have them.
And yes, he was a fan of keeping Brian as OC, as much as he'd like you to believe otherwise now.
Even if it did, what good does the criticism do?
Negativity in the community is felt by the players and coaches. And it does NOT make their life easier.
And now with NIL, fan behavior is part of the real-time marketing of the program. How in the hell is money supposed to be raised in the community if everyone is always talking **** about the program? You realize football fans are incapable of thinking for themselves, right?
Why make it potentially harder for the team you root for to win? The answer is, most of the habitual complainers aren't true fans in the first place
Per usual, you have no clue what you're talking about
Because the offense pissed a lot of us off, hurt the team. Since we are all fanatics, we come here to talk to people who understand our frustration.
Nice try. You were one of the biggest BF fanboys on the site.
The offense pisssd off a lot more consumers, and people who never really had the best interest of the Hawks at heart in the first place, than it did fans.
No, the offense didn't hurt the team to near the level people made it out to. Those offenses were part of KF's winningest stretch at Iowa.
People wanted to say Iowa would have won more with a better offense. But they gave no answers to how that better offense was supposed to have been acheived. No solutions = no legitimate complaint. Or they offered solutions that potentially could have hurt the defense.
Also, the complaint is based on a hypothetical that can never be proven. Hypothetically, Iowa could have won more games with a better offense. But given that it's just a hypothetical, that we know can never be proven, the validity of the complaint can inherently only go so far. Not only that, but reasonable arguments against the hypothetical claim exist. In other words, maybe the team would have won significantly more with better offenses, maybe not. So why in the hell does it still have people's panties in a bunch years later?
It should again be noted that there wasn't really room to have won significantly more. If no significant difference, why the significant level of complaint?
Of course, these questions have answers. For most, the complaining originated from a lack of being entertained. Their complaints would receive pushback in the form of Iowa's strong W/L records. So, in turn, the complainers responded that Iowa would have won even more with a better offense. So the whole "better offense" hypothetical complaint was born out of an attempt to justify the "lack of entertainment" complaint. Not real strong.
To further show the level of complaining to have not been warranted; no regrets of having not been elite are even at all a realistic conversation without the program having been very good in the first place. The football program having been consistently good is a credit to KF. Not something to be used against him.
Finally, people who actually had a clue what had happened to the o-line leading into '22, were able to recognize '22 and '23 as a clear outlier that was born out of some bad luck and timing. Throw in an emergency QB in '23, who was the worst QB to take significant snaps at Iowa in at least 40 years, to compliment the worst O-line in at least 40 years, and the fact that fans want to include those outlier seasons as part of some program narrative, is beyond laughable. True fans recognized it as an opportunity to support their team, that had fallen on some bad luck. Unfortuately, there were far too many, who weren't true fans, that "turned" on the Hawks.
Other than the non-entertained consumers, the only other people who give a crap about the "offense cost wins" narrative, are people who are either sensitive to "nepotism", or people who never had the Hawks best interest at heart and were looking for an excuse to "turn" on them.
There are many ways to vent that don't mutilply negativity in the Hawkeye community
You criticized Iowa football in this thread................but like you said, it wasn't the right thing to do.
Amirite?
It was meant to get a reaction from you.
Successful.
Nah, like I said. I'm sorry it bothers you that I didn't go along with your line of questioning by choosing both.
This kind of thinking is just sad.
If you didn't understand why people have issues with what you post, refer to these paragraphs, because this pretty much sums up why people (rightfully) disagree with you, and no amount of laughing emojis and repeating the same posts is gonna change that.
Funny you say that because I had a post after the ISU game documenting how different Iowa's record would be in the KF era had they won even "most" (not all) of their close losses, many of which were games where the offense objectively (not hyperbole or opinion) failed them. That included games over the last 5 years.
Pretty sure you left a laughing emoji on that as well.
Since it is all about winning and nothing else matters, here are the points the winning teams scored in the 24 losses going back to the 2019 season
2019-10, 17, 24
2020 - 24, 21
2021 - 24, 27, 42, 20
2022 - 10, 27, 9, 54, 24
2023 - 31, 12, 26, 35
2024, 20, 35, 32, 20, 27
2025 - 16
If Iowa had scored at least 20 in all those games, they would only have lost 18 of those 24
If they had scored 27, they would have lost 9
If they had scored 30, they would have lost 6
So even scoring 20 in those games they lost would have yielded 6 more wins over that period and the records would have looked like this.
2019: 11-1 (and the CCG) vs 9-3
2020: no change and it wouldn't have mattered
2021: no change
2022: 9-3 vs 8-4
2023: 9-3 vs 8-4
2024: no change
Three of those games would have gone to OT
Pretty easy to understand why people wanted more offense actually
Depends what you're referring toYou criticized Iowa football in this thread................but like you said, it wasn't the right thing to do.
Amirite?
No, there's no depends about it. You said what you said. You're guilty of criticizing Iowa just like everyone else. The degree to which you criticized is irrelevant even if that's the core of your issue with Iowa fans.
Hope that helps in your efforts to not be a hypocrite anymore!
Yes your thinking is that of a simpleton and is easily disputed.
eyesofhawkbrainofapigeon is the most accomplished hole digger in Iowa message board history.
He is half way to China in this thread….
He is half way to China in this thread….
21-21 2nd Q.
Iowa doesn't win the Rutgers game if the offense looked like it did 2-3 years ago. Can't ALWAYS win with defense. 14-10, 10-7, etc... Sometimes you've just gotta score some points,
Defense buckled down in the 2nd half, though.
This right here! Fran McCaffery proved this as well. If the offense is good, the defense MUST suck.No. Defense can only be good with the offense going 3 and out and turning the ball over at an alarming rate. Defense can’t be good when the offense can score 14 points or more…it’s basically impossible.
A sure sign the hole is getting deeper….. and it’s getting a little tedious, mate. Dig better.
Your claim has been refuted several times. I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Read better
I've never seen someone fight with so much determination to defend points that are completely and utterly WRONG.
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Don't care. A tie is a tie no matter the score.
It's like Fran's basketball teams. Would you rather lose 100-95 or 60-57? Again, doesn't matter. It's the end result I care about most.
You can’t make this up! Says he will not keep repeating himself — then immediately repeats himself. LOL
It’s funny how he demands a simple answer to his question…..when he almost never gives a straightforward answer to anything.
If you were to give him 2 options for an answer, he wouldn’t take either one. Instead he would blather on about stuff that wasn’t part of the question, before refusing to actually give a direct answer.
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Nor has he given a straightforward follow-up response to people who did answer his question......if he even chooses to respond.