Can someone please explain the onside kick attempt
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Practice.
Remember, this was a scrimmage for us.
It didn't work. They need more practice.
Remember, this was a scrimmage for us.
It didn't work. They need more practice.
One of the worst execution of an onside kick I have ever seen. The ball didn’t go 2 yards. Guess they don’t have onside kicks in Ireland hahahaha
That’s hardly justification. Risk far outweighed reward.
this. No other reason
This exactly. The game was a laugher, so might as well try out plays like that in real time game conditions.
It wasn't a laugher at the time of the onside kick
this
I sent a text to a friend "we just tried an onside kick that failed. it's too early and the score is too close to be trying trick plays"
I disagree. It was 20-3 with 8 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter, against Norfolk State. Did you want to wait until we had 40 on the board? That's rubbing it in. You attempt an onsides kick to work on it "while its still a game".
It was against Norfolk State, there was no risk.
It wasn’t Scullion on the onside kick, they put the backup in for it. The TV crew called it out as they were setting up for it.
Said it in the game thread, I thought it was stupid to practice such a thing and put it on tape for no good reason. That’s a play you can work on in practice just as easily as in a game.
Got it. I didn't know they put in a different kicker.
Didn’t he do something similar 2 years ago? An awful onside kick in one of the early games that had us all shaking our heads and we pulled that one off against Michigan State. He admitted that the one earlier in the year had been an intentional practice on sidekick? I seem to remember something interesting like that.
It was great in this specific way.. if Greg found out that it needed a lot more practice before he'd consider trying it again, unless absolutely forced by the game situation. Even then.. maybe he tries a bloop.. always wondered why you never see an onsides attempt where teh kicker blasts it directly at an opponent hoping for a rebound. They must practice different tactics and that why everyone goes for the high-hop thing.
It all worked except for the kick, Norfolk State wasn’t even thinking onside kick and RU had a wall of blockers. Kid just flubbed the kick and it didn’t go far.
There was one done this season. Forget where and by whom. But did see it on a highlight show.
They literally kicked it right at someone.
it didn’t matter at all. Provided no data. Was not a risk as there was never a chance we were losing the game. He got a back up a situational practice kick. That’s all.
Please explain yourself since Norfolk State wasn’t expecting it and they would have easily recovered if the kick went far enough. Additionally they had a wall of red jerseys out front so whoever recovered likely would’ve advanced the ball as well. Clearly you missed all of this.
If we use our backup kicker to kick onsides kicks, it just provided a huge data point for no reason.
if he just did that to throw people off, then he’s playing 4d chess and it didn’t matter
As your favorite Rutgers Football poster would say "we were not losing that game". So no real risk.
The kicking team can't advance a recovered onside kick.
And the benefit of trying ? Pointless in the game. One ‘practice’ OSK rep serves no purpose and the idea he wanted to get an immediate series for the O is just as obtuse. If any unit needs more experience and coaching it’s the D, which happened anyway, but 50 yards closer to the end zone than if kicked off. No sound logic to it .
The benefit is called scoring more points if you recover. And they would have done the latter if it went the required distance.
They score a touchdown there on a short field and it's 20-10. This may have been the dumbest thing Greg did since the time out in Illinois game
Risk? This game was a blowout. It was always going to be a blowout. GS was trying things and obviously had zero fear that this would be a competitive game.
Uhm....we had a guy not only do so BUT go all the way to the end zone for a TD, do a flip into the end zone AND get a grin-and-eye-roll from Greg for doing so ( @PatrickRU92's favorite: The Beef O'Brady's Bowl).
Has that rule since changed?
Greg is quite intentional with his decisions in these types of games. It could be as simple as wanted to change things up and put some wild goose chase film out there for opposing coaches to thumb through. It was Norfolk State. It just doesn’t matter either way
This exactly right here. Again, IIRC, we did this in the 2023 season early, a miserable failed onside kick, then ran one to perfection against MSU during the comeback. Also - again IIRC - there was a noticeable difference between the 2 attempts (aside from fail/successful).
We returned that kick. It’s the kicking team that can’t advance a recovery