Nah. When money is being spent on a starting QB Kirk is very heavily involved and has the final say. You can bet the farm on that, and you know America Needs Farmers.
Gronowski getting Heat from the local media
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Iowa now with 60 consecutive games without a 300 yard passer. Next closest, Rutgers with 30 consecutive games.
No QB who could throw for 300 wants to go to Iowa.
It's borderline criminal that he was stuck behind Cade instead of the starter
The poop on the street is that Lester never wanted that but he was overruled by Kirk. I don't know about criminal but Cade never should have seen the field last year outside of an emergency.
He absolutely was the best option, the Cade experiment was an unmitigated disaster, combo of a gawd awful line, ****** QB, and worse WRs. The WRs are a question mark, the line is more than solid, so we will see. It isn't like the staff didn't go after other QBs, Murphy from OSU didn't look great last weekend. Looking at Pribula, that was the miss (although I don't think they had the money).
All will be forgiven with a win on Saturday.
lose with another uninspiring performance and well, at least he is rich.
lose with another uninspiring performance and well, at least he is rich.
It's rare that the best option would be a guy requiring surgery on his throwing shoulder and the idea that he was otherwise destined for the NFL is nonsense. That's a risky bet. The Hawks might have been better served by just keeping Sullivan who showed himself to be Iowa's best QB in years and acquiring someone like Brown as a backup/heir apparent. The money could have been used elsewhere.
Sullivan was hot and cold. He made some nice plays but also some bad ones. One thing for sure, KFz is no better at the Quarterback game using the portal than he is with the conventional method.
He completed 71% of his passes with a 154 passer rating averaging 9 yards per attempt. He also ran for 150 yards with a 3.2 average which is excellent for a qb. He only really played in 4 games but those numbers are better than anyone else in the KF era.
Seems like better moneyball would have been that route and used the money on wide receivers, or any other area of weakness that hasn't exposed itself to the fans yet, but the coaches have lost sleep about such as possibly DB.
So Carson Beck was also a relatively risky proposition, but before Beck even entered the portal, surgery had already been successfully performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache who is a world renowned sports injury surgeon specializing in exactly that type of surgery. He's lead doctor for the Dodgers and Rams and I'm sure that his prognosis for recovery carried a lot of weight with prospective suitors. He's performed Tommy John surgery (the same performed on Beck) on a lot of famous athletes including Clayton Kershaw and Shohei Ohtani. Given this background, it was pretty much a given that Beck would be ready to go in the Spring and make a full recovery in time for the season to begin.
If you're referring to Cade the fallacy applies. If you're referring to MG, it's way too soon to tell, but yeah. He likely keeps starting no matter how he performs.
There is NO ROI for people donating money to these collectives. You have zero control over how the kid plays, IF the kid plays, if he gets injured, or if he just mails it in given he's already getting the money. You know what they say, "A fool and his money are soon parted".. And to be clear, true NIL is what Caitlin Clark was doing at Iowa where she had endorsement deals with major brands and they paid her as a spokesperson or in commercials. Whats going on with 95% of these players has nothing to do with NIL..Name, image and likeness...
I can answer that question as I slept at a name brand hotel last night.
The jury is still out.
Thank you.
Honestly have zero idea what point you are trying to make. Gronowski is 100%, he made some nice throws, the full game is available to watch. There were two major hiccups early with the skip pass in the endzone and the over throw to the back. If he completely ***** the bed next week then feel free to *****, I'll hold off judgement.
My only point was that I don't know if he was the best option available (and neither do you regardless of your certainty that he was) or whether it was even necessary to hit the portal for a starting QB given the presence of Sullivan on the roster.
I'm not passing judgment on MG yet. You're putting lipstick on a pig. He was dog$hit last week. Doesn't mean he'll be dog$hit all year. That story hasn't been written yet. I hope he kills it vs ISU.
Just to be clear, you think the better option in the offseason was to hold on to Sullivan, a dude that transferred to Tulane and was beat out by Retzlaff a QB that didn't transfer until mid summer? There will always be a hindsight scenario, and maybe Gronowski does blow, but from the QBs Iowa was in contact with, he was the only one that bit outside of Brown, and from what I've seen from Brown, both on film and in the spring, I am glad Gronowski came on board.
He threw for 44 yards. He had a QBR of 24. And just like the past 3 years we completed a total of 3 passes to wide receivers. I know, I know, once the game was in the bag we just ran the ball. But while we were actually attempting to pass the ball it looked actually as bad or worse than it ever has. I like the fact that he can run the ball and hopefully be a dual threat QB. But by dual threat he needs to be able to actually pass the ball, not just run it. I'm actually very high on Lester, especially considering what he had to work with last year. Bottom 3 WR group plus QB last year and was still able to find a way to run the ball effectively. That takes some scheming. And I think our defense will be up to the challenge this week. He's going to have 3-4 opportunities this week to make a play, and he's got to be able to do it. We will need a few turnovers from the defense and possibly a few big runs from our backs to win this game.
Sullivan wasn't beat out. He was competing with Retzlaff for the starting job when he got injured being tackled during a practice drill. That's the same Retzlaff who won 11 games as the starting QB at BYU last year. He passed for 152 and ran for 113 against Northwestern on Saturday. He might be better than Sullivan. The guy's no slouch.
So yeah. Maybe that money would have been better spent on a wide receiver or cb.
He had 15 opportunities, and certainly held onto the ball too long at points, but go back and watch the film. His throws to KJ Parker were dead on, I would have liked to have seen more opportunities, but his legs and lack of turn overs are solid. I am far more worried for the linebackers and secondary next week. They did not spy the QB very well last week, and they certainly will need to this week. If Becht has time to throw the ball, the secondary will need to step it up big time or be scorched.
The same Retzlaff that didn't even make it to Tulane until August? Yeah the math doesn't math. He had a negative MRI, and only came up limping. The depth in the WR room is fine, and they did get Barrios from SD, I agree they should have gone after someone else, but I didn't see a lock down corner in the portal. I am certainly no eyesofhawk, but damn you guys go hard after the first game. Why not ***** about the secondary, or the LBs?
Also, he did lose the starting job, and was available
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I think MG is going to be just fine.
Just needs to not worry about being perfect and just go out and try to win games, just play football like he has many times before.
Just needs to not worry about being perfect and just go out and try to win games, just play football like he has many times before.
Ok who do you start without Gronowski on the team? You have 2 QBs that have thrown just over 50 times in 2 and 3 years in previous seasons.
Or you could pick a 2 time FCS MVP and possible NFL pick while you develop a QB this season.
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Apparently you would have stuck with Brendan Sullivan according to some on this board.
Not sure if the first half last week wasn't scheme when it comes to "spying the QB. After the first Q and 1/2 he didn't have another run of any substance. My guess is Phil made some adjustments as well as turning up the heat on him when he did pass. I think Phil knows what he's up against Saturday..
No he dropped the ball , but the throw was there I believe.....
I think the concerns with Sullivan were reading coverages and going through his progressions. And taking care of himself, doesn’t do you any good if he’s on the injured list.
Well like ive said before, I hope MG kills it this weekend. They're going to need it to have a chance.
That's what Hayden got for wearing white pants after Labor Day....
Yes. We've seen exactly this progression with Phil's defense many times. They did nothing after halftime.
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Sullivan came in here as an unpolished QB and it showed. In Tim Lester we have a coach who could fix some of those issues. I would take what Brendan brought to the table over a QB coming off surgery on his throwing shoulder. As pointed out by another poster we could have still brought in Brown for depth with Stratton having the hernia.
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