Is Gronowski injured?

[Kceasthawk@77]

Fry took over a wreck of a program. Put Iowa "on the map", so to speak.

KF is an average HC who accepts bland, average results. 27 years to catch Woody Hayes!

And as has been stated...being in the B1GWest puffs up his win total exponentially.

Lolol.. AND when Fry played the other 9 teams in the old Big 10 just WHO were the other really good teams? Do you know why they called it the big 2 and the little 8? There were no more really good teams then there are now, even just in the west. Wisconsin (until the last two years) has been WAY better then they were for most of Frys tenure. WAY better. NW many years has been much better then the teams Fry AND everybody else used to steamroll. PSU was added to the league and Iowa has played them MANY years and Kirks gone close to 50/50 against them. MSU had a really good run under Dantonio and we played them most years and split with them. I think if you actually look at the facts with out the Fry colored glasses you'll see Fry did certainly not play in a tougher big ten then the current league. WE won't even get into just how crap ISU was for most of Frys time as compared to this team under Campbell.
And for the record Iowa was pretty much a wreck when Kirk took over as well, as recruiting had really fallen off in Haydens last few seasons and yet in three years we made a run at a national title in 2002..

 

[Tsawvell55]

Lolol.. AND when Fry played the other 9 teams in the old Big 10 just WHO were the other really good teams? Do you know why they called it the big 2 and the little 8? There were no more really good teams then there are now, even just in the west. Wisconsin (until the last two years) has been WAY better then they were for most of Frys tenure. WAY better. NW many years has been much better then the teams Fry AND everybody else used to steamroll. PSU was added to the league and Iowa has played them MANY years and Kirks gone close to 50/50 against them. MSU had a really good run under Dantonio and we played them most years and split with them. I think if you actually look at the facts with out the Fry colored glasses you'll see Fry did certainly not play in a tougher big ten then the current league. WE won't even get into just how crap ISU was for most of Frys time as compared to this team under Campbell.
And for the record Iowa was pretty much a wreck when Kirk took over as well, as recruiting had really fallen off in Haydens last few seasons and yet in three years we made a run at a national title in 2002..

 

[Tsawvell55]

Ferentz meh! HOF your dreaming

 

[r_desihawk]

the silver lining with gronowski is that he did not do anything erratic or dumb like we could’ve seen with cade or hill. despite having zero passing success not once did he launch a jump ball or a horrible INT or hold the ball out for opponents to take away. i suppose that in itself is worth 100 yards by iowa standards. so i would amend his contribution to 8/15 144 yards 1TD which is respectable

 

[Hans81]

Lol

What’s so funny about the truth?

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Ferentz meh! HOF your dreaming

Thanks for your opinion. Just like mine you know what those are worth, right? I've listed lots of actual reasons why he could certainly be considered along side his predecessor. And to add another actual fact, Hayes also coached in what was for many years a very weak big10. Should his wins also be discounted like some want with Kirk? Should Hayes not be given credit for beating all the bad NW, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, etc... teams of that time period? What about Amos Alonzo Stagg who is third on the list? He coached at the University of Chicago. Anyone care to peruse his competition in those days and rate his performance?

 

[Hans81]

I think nerves explain the little wild first throw, and the throws at the ankle. But I don't know what can account for the failed TD pass. It's HARD to throw it that short. I remember Christensen throwing some dirt balls, but that throw was inexplicable.

Could that ball have just slipped out of his hand as he threw it?

 

[3-D_chess]

Ferentz meh! HOF your dreaming

He's in, guaranteed.
The age of meritocracy is over, welcome to the age of mediocracy.

 

[PinkShizzle]

I didn't see the game, just saw the stats. Oof, it was really that bad?

 

[Hans81]

Now we know why Ferentz always schedules patsies for the home opener.

HOF coach, my arse!.

I think that’s the mark of a good coach…letting his team get comfortable for a game.

 

[Hans81]

Hopefully not much or ISU may break him in half.

lol…the clowns are not the Steel Curtain defense that many “fans” are making them out to be.

 

[BunchofAholes]

Lolol.. AND when Fry played the other 9 teams in the old Big 10 just WHO were the other really good teams? Do you know why they called it the big 2 and the little 8? There were no more really good teams then there are now, even just in the west. Wisconsin (until the last two years) has been WAY better then they were for most of Frys tenure. WAY better. NW many years has been much better then the teams Fry AND everybody else used to steamroll. PSU was added to the league and Iowa has played them MANY years and Kirks gone close to 50/50 against them. MSU had a really good run under Dantonio and we played them most years and split with them. I think if you actually look at the facts with out the Fry colored glasses you'll see Fry did certainly not play in a tougher big ten then the current league. WE won't even get into just how crap ISU was for most of Frys time as compared to this team under Campbell.
And for the record Iowa was pretty much a wreck when Kirk took over as well, as recruiting had really fallen off in Haydens last few seasons and yet in three years we made a run at a national title in 2002..

Recruiting was down and the roster thin. The program was strong in every other way. It was a respected and known National brand. That's not remotely comparable to what Hayden inherited. The culture, the facilities, everything needed a rebuild. Iowa was a doormat.

KFz certainly did his own rebuild but it's nothing like what Hayden faced.

 

[Pharcyded]

Don’t hold your breath….we have seen this movie script too many times…

I hope. I don't expect it. Hopefully Gronowski plays great next week.

 

[Pharcyded]

LOL at KF benching the starting QB unless he is physically unable to take the field. MG is our QB until he becomes dismembered.

Perhaps, but Brown was reportedly impressive in camp.

 

[WeBeHerkin]

Now we know why Ferentz always schedules patsies for the home opener.

HOF coach, my arse!.

Most all games this weekend were against Patsies.

 

[WeBeHerkin]

OL looked good in general I thought. Lauck held up at LT

 

[Jonesy5960]

It's looks like a short-armed push throwing motion. Terrible mechanics...better get that hashed out quickly.

The guy's a 22 year old QB with a bunch of starts under his belt. You aren't changing his mechanics in the middle of his senior season. If I had to guess, he's still recovering from the shoulder injury. Just because someone is cleared medically doesn't mean he's going to be the same guy he was before the injury/surgery.

 

[Jonesy5960]

I didn't see the game, just saw the stats. Oof, it was really that bad?

Oh no. It was much, much worse.

 

[Jonesy5960]

The Albany QB just came into Kinnick and passed the ball around in a big way.

What the hell is wrong with us?

Sigh... Another Iowa fan who doesn't understand what an effective passing game looks like.

The pass defense certainly wasn't spectacular given the competition, but 13/26 for 134 yards for a passer rating of 106 is hardly passing the ball around in a big way. It's actually one of the worst performances of the day, but then you're comparing him to the Iowa QB and I understand why you feel that way. Will ISU have more success? Most likely. Will the Iowa QB have more success vs a much stronger opponent is what will be the difference in next week's game.

 

[Jonesy5960]

the silver lining with gronowski is that he did not do anything erratic or dumb like we could’ve seen with cade or hill. despite having zero passing success not once did he launch a jump ball or a horrible INT or hold the ball out for opponents to take away. i suppose that in itself is worth 100 yards by iowa standards. so i would amend his contribution to 8/15 144 yards 1TD which is respectable

Not sure if serious....

 

[UIAlumFireFighter]

Sigh... Another Iowa fan who doesn't understand what an effective passing game looks like.

The pass defense certainly wasn't spectacular given the competition, but 13/26 for 134 yards for a passer rating of 106 is hardly passing the ball around in a big way. It's actually one of the worst performances of the day, but then you're comparing him to the Iowa QB and I understand why you feel that way. Will ISU have more success? Most likely. Will the Iowa QB have more success vs a much stronger opponent is what will be the difference in next week's game.

Did I say effective? No.

But my comment takes into consideration that the new QB of FCS Albany(!) tripled the yardage of a 5th-year player of the year. He exhibited a strong arm with the ability to complete long passes.

This, again, versus Big Ten program Iowa…At Kinnick. Nuff said. He was poised from the first snap.

We did none of that.. At home.. With bigger, stronger, faster players.

 

[r_desihawk]

Not sure if serious....

Recall cade’s poor throws when frustrated for instance INT against say NW last year or that random throw into triple coverage (that yielded a TD by pure luck) or Sull’s more than occasional efforts to make a play where none existed. something like that could easily have given up a score and/or taken one away from us. So good decision making imo is worth 100 yards. in summary, quasi serious

 

[wilson reborn]

One more pathetic half from Gronowski, Kirk should bring in Brown. And let him throw the ball.

 

[PinkLockerRoom]

He has a massive knee brace on under his uniform for whatever that’s worth.

 

[IowaFarmBoy2]

They played OK State last season and he was fine in that. Plenty of QB's look bad against Iowa's defense, especially if the team can't run the ball. None of those things are "the hard truth" especially when your first sentence begins with "Mac likely."

Maybe you missed watching the game. Entirely a bad shoulder. It is hard truth. OSU wasn’t a D goliath

another bad qb situation regardless of how you want to hope

 

[Hawksfor3]

Pic and eligibility left?

Available:

 

[BunchofAholes]

So, getting back to the OP. Have we heard anything more than "cramps"? Did he get a stinger? Was it mentioned in the post game?

 

[ClarindaA’s]

Watch us put up 45 on Iowa State

 

[UIAlumFireFighter]

Watch us put up 45 on Iowa State

I like where your head’s at.

 

[hawksfan2025]

Watch us put up 45 on Iowa State

Maybe in the new NCAA Football video game!

 

[Jonesy5960]

Recall cade’s poor throws when frustrated for instance INT against say NW last year or that random throw into triple coverage (that yielded a TD by pure luck) or Sull’s more than occasional efforts to make a play where none existed. something like that could easily have given up a score and/or taken one away from us. So good decision making imo is worth 100 yards. in summary, quasi serious

OMG. Sullivan was freaking Patrick Mahomes compared to what we saw yesterday. If he plays anything like this the rest of the year Iowa will struggle mightily to become bowl eligible.

 

[wilson reborn]

OMG. Sullivan was freaking Patrick Mahomes compared to what we saw yesterday. If he plays anything like this the rest of the year Iowa will struggle mightily to become bowl eligible.

It was a mistake letting Sully go.

 

[Jonesy5960]

It was a mistake letting Sully go.

I don't know what happened there, but it was obvious that the staff was all in on MG and then acquired Brown as well. I assume that was what drove him out. He was easily the best performer at Iowa QB since Stanley, not that that's saying much at all.

 

[Jonesy5960]

Watch us put up 45 on Iowa State

Did you want to place a wager on that? I'll give you 2-1 odds.

 

[wilson reborn]

I don't know what happened there, but it was obvious that the staff was all in on MG and then acquired Brown as well. I assume that was what drove him out. He was easily the best performer at Iowa QB since Stanley, not that that's saying much at all.

He was a pretty good QB. $1.3 million later we have chaos.

 

[ClarindaA’s]

Did you want to place a wager on that? I'll give you 2-1 odds.

No, I’m hopeful. Not stupid

 

[WeBeHerkin]

Watch us put up 45 on Iowa State

It’d kind of be one of the most Kirk things ever.

 

[SecretHBOTer]

The QB we’ve seen in the last 3 years that impressed me the most with his willingness to pull the trigger and see things quickly has been Jackson Stratton.

 

[Jonesy5960]

He was a pretty good QB. $1.3 million later we have chaos.

Agree. I'm still hoping that yesterday was the greatest trap set in the history of mankind.

 

[Burghawk87]

Maybe you missed watching the game. Entirely a bad shoulder. It is hard truth. OSU wasn’t a D goliath

another bad qb situation regardless of how you want to hope

I watched the game. Claiming all of these things as hard truths after 1 game when maybe one of them applies is a reach. I don’t understand the need to proclaim everything as black and white. I don't disagree that after 1 game the qb situation doesn’t look ideal but damn man, it's 1 game. Give it a chance to breathe itself into existence. We'll know more after week 2 (or 3) depending on how things look.