Fed Governor Lisa Cook Fired with Cause

UrHuckleberry

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She is not some random person on the Fed Board. She is in charge of setting the interest rates that she was gaming. Totally unnacceptable. Fired with cause.

And yes , if Ken Paxton did the same thing, he should resign. Doesn't matter what party, what color, what ideology, they should all be held to the same standard.
She in no way is over the difference between residency and non-residency interest rates.
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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Have you called for Ken Paxton to resign?

With Trump, while I think it was a crime so to speak, I really don't truly care about it. I do suspect that it is somewhat common (over claiming on loan applications, then underclaiming on tax documents). My main point has really just been that it humors me seeing people act just over the top offended some random person on a Fed board apparently did something that also just isn't that big of a deal to me.

Let me say myself that this political warfare in my opinion is going way over the top from everyone on all sides of the spectrum.

As the Bible says he who is without sin cast the first stone. I get it we need standards and red lines but I personally think we have moved the goalposts and set the standards a bit toooooo high.
 

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Let me say myself that this political warfare in my opinion is going way over the top from everyone on all sides of the spectrum.

As the Bible says he who is without sin cast the first stone. I get it we need standards and red lines but I personally think we have moved the goalposts and set the standards a bit toooooo high.
That is just a different tune than your other statements in the thread. That is all I'm saying.
 

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LMAO, Nate Silver is using 10 polls, including ones from Trump friendly pollsters and all of them except one show him underwater. Time to accept the fact that Trump is a deeply unpopular president Gramps, despite what Maria Bartiromo and Jesse Watters tell you on your tv. You need to accept that you're in the minority by a wide margin and it will only get wider.

America supports Trump at 53 per cent on crime

Community polls unofficial say as high as 90 plus say crime is a huge problem in their community

Trump after fixing immigration has picked the next big battle he will win and Democrats will crap on their party

Enjoy the cowchips dude
 

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Hitler is very good. He is doing everything possible not to have those Epstein files exposed. Child rapist!
You are so right

While Biden was President for 4 years he hid the Epstein files from the public

His own daughter accused him of child pedophilia in her diary

Ant it took Trump a new President to release the files

Thank You Pharaoh Trump
 

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I haven't forgotten, but here's the thing, and i'm not sticking up for trump, but until he's found guilty and sentenced then.....

You seem to think that our legal system is rigged for Trump...is it just possible that for some reason the courts didn't agree with your positions? I'm not a lawyer, so I don't see the inner workings of things the way you do, l only see the end result. And so far, no matter all the court cases and indictments, Trump is till walking free and in a second term as president.

Maybe he'll be prosecuted after his term , but there's a likely chance by that time he'll be just a tired old man with a poor memory.

Nancy Pelosi was offered by Trump to have 10,000 National Guard troops in DC on JAN 6

Pelosi’s daughter has her mom on tape admitting she was responsible for the Jan 6 chaos

Just saying
 

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Sure, and if that were the line I were seeing on here, it wouldn't make me laugh. It may frustrate me, because it feels like I just want both sides to be better, but I at least would understand it. All the holier than thou talk is what is humoring me. That's all I've been saying. Say "turnabout is fair play" etc, fine. I won't like it, just like I didn't love the NY AG thing either. But at least that is genuine. That's all.
Interesting you use the word frustrated. I was literally thinking about this just before you posted this and the conclusion I came to is this. I think my frustration is being misunderstood as racism or facism or whatever else. But that’s what I am. I am beyond frustrated with the bull **** out of both of these parties, completely. I cannot stand being lied to. I hate liars. I also cannot stand multiple sets of standards or rules. I hate that as well. I believe in pure equality. Every opportunity is equal, what’s done with that opportunity is up the person. That’s how I feel, that’s how I’ve lived my life. So when it’s just constant whining and crying and moaning about stuff that your very party has done to others, I don’t wanna hear about it. Idgaf. That’s on them and that party. You reap what you sow. Dems try to imprison people for nonsense, then you shouldn’t be surprised when they do the same to you. We need real men, with real backbones, to take back the nation. All these limp wristed intellectuals on both sides have done is divide and frustrate the people.
 

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Based on the evidence that is public, you don’t think he signed fraudulent documents? Is your argument that he was framed or that it just isn’t a big deal?
He signed final documents that he trusted subordinates has supposedly proper vetted

Mistake to trust the process was perfect

Every CEO takes that chance every day
 

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So he didn’t say his penthouse was three times larger than it is?

He did not measure the property

A real estate appraisal was done by a professional for hire company

They made a mistake

Then Trump was blamed for accepting what was a professional for hire real estate appraisal company
which is licensed under NYC laws

The appraisal company should have ben sanctioned or sued by Trump
 

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He signed final documents that he trusted subordinates has supposedly proper vetted

Mistake to trust the process was perfect

Every CEO takes that chance every day
If we held corporations to the same standards there wouldn’t be an executive in the country that is innocent. People sign off on stuff everyday at much larger levels than this and nothing is done. Ever.
 

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LMAO, Nate Silver is using 10 polls, including ones from Trump friendly pollsters and all of them except one show him underwater. Time to accept the fact that Trump is a deeply unpopular president Gramps, despite what Maria Bartiromo and Jesse Watters tell you on your tv. You need to accept that you're in the minority by a wide margin and it will only get wider.

Polls out today

Trump at 53 per cent approval

Higher than last three presidents at this point in each presidency

DAM TRUMP IS KILLING

LOVE PHARAOH TRUMP

BTW DECIDED TO DESCRIBE TRUMP WITH PHARAOH TRUMP AS EGYPTIAN RULERS WERE MAGNIFICENT BUILDERS

I THINK WE NEED A PYRAMID IN WASHINGTON DC

LOVING TRUMP

BEEN INVITED TO HIS BIRTHDAY PARTY DUDE
 

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Polls out today

Trump at 53 per cent approval

Higher than last three presidents at this point in each presidency

DAM TRUMP IS KILLING

LOVE PHARAOH TRUMP

BTW DECIDED TO DESCRIBE TRUMP WITH PHARAOH TRUMP AS EGYPTIAN RULERS WERE MAGNIFICENT BUILDERS

I THINK WE NEED A PYRAMID IN WASHINGTON DC

LOVING TRUMP

BEEN INVITED TO HIS BIRTHDAY PARTY DUDE
LINK TO SAID POLL?

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That is just a different tune than your other statements in the thread. That is all I'm saying.

Don’t misunderstand that I absolutely think that the past administration was destroying democracy and the fabric that made America great

This administration with Trump as the rudder is doing a fantastic job of returning America to the top of the mountain

With that clear

I just think that all sides need to concentrate on policy that works for Americans as much as possible

Not this personal attacks

As an example the man who threw the turkey subway sandwich at the agent was guilty of something and arresting him was correct but i was thinking a felony was a little over the top

he should have been forced to do community service

no indictment was a disservice to law and order

he should be punished

losing his job was a no brainer fire the idiot
 

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Dude you are aware that Trump does NOT EVALUATE PROPERTIES FOR TAXES

COUNTIES HAVE TAX ASSESSORS WHO DO THAT

TRUMP HAS ZERO TO DO WITH PROPERTY ASSESSMENT

I ASK MYSELF HOW CAN A PERSON IN AMERICA BE SO UNEDUCATED AND MISINFORMED ABOUT
THIS

YOU MUST NOT OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY

CONSIDER YOURSELF HAVING BEEN INFORMED
Sigh ... Of course counties "evaluate properties for taxes." The process is called "assessment," and it is usually performed by one or more employees in the local County Assessor's office. But property owners have a role in the process. At least they do in California. Property owners are supposed to submit information concerning the Property in order to assist the County Assessor in reassessing the value of the Property. In California at least, real property is reassessed on two occasions: when there is a "change of ownership" or when the property is "substantially improved." In both cases, the property owner is required to submit forms that provide the requisite information.

Florida's assessment process is obviously a little different from California's, but I am pretty sure that the property owner likewise has to submit information concerning the property in question, as well as information concerning the sale or other disposition of the property. That is when the brouhaha about Trump's valuation of Mar a Lago arose. You say he has zero to do with property assessment? The forms which are submitted typically MUST be signed by the property owner, and usually under penalty of perjury. Trump was the owner of Mar a Lago, no? (Even if he owned it through the medium of a legal entity (e.g., corporation, partnership, LLC, or trust) he would have to sign as CEO, managing partner, manager, or Trustee of such entity).

I own several different parcels of real property. I also practice real estate law. So I know a little bit about this subject. Obviously not as much as you do, but who could hope to match your omniscience when it comes to real property tax assessment, or anything else?
 

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Sigh ... Of course counties "evaluate properties for taxes." The process is called "assessment," and it is usually performed by one or more employees in the local County Assessor's office. But property owners have a role in the process. At least they do in California. Property owners are supposed to submit information concerning the Property in order to assist the County Assessor in reassessing the value of the Property. In California at least, real property is reassessed on two occasions: when there is a "change of ownership" or when the property is "substantially improved." In both cases, the property owner is required to submit forms that provide the requisite information.

Florida's assessment process is obviously a little different from California's, but I am pretty sure that the property owner likewise has to submit information concerning the property in question, as well as information concerning the sale or other disposition of the property. That is when the brouhaha about Trump's valuation of Mar a Lago arose. You say he has zero to do with property assessment? The forms which are submitted typically MUST be signed by the property owner, and usually under penalty of perjury. Trump was the owner of Mar a Lago, no? (Even if he owned it through the medium of a legal entity (e.g., corporation, partnership, LLC, or trust) he would have to sign as CEO, managing partner, manager, or Trustee of such entity).

I own several different parcels of real property. I also practice real estate law. So I know a little bit about this subject. Obviously not as much as you do, but who could hope to match your omniscience when it comes to real property tax assessment, or anything else?
OK, I just learned something. I have lived in 3 states just over the last few years (own multiple properties) have made improvements in each and have never had a state/county send me a document asking for information on the property. one of those states is Florida, different county though
 
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Oh look - a third "mistake" by someone who sits on the Fed Govenor's board. If she continually makes "mistakes" this simple why I wonder what other "mistakes" she makes. Fired with cause.

 

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Sigh ... Of course counties "evaluate properties for taxes." The process is called "assessment," and it is usually performed by one or more employees in the local County Assessor's office. But property owners have a role in the process. At least they do in California. Property owners are supposed to submit information concerning the Property in order to assist the County Assessor in reassessing the value of the Property. In California at least, real property is reassessed on two occasions: when there is a "change of ownership" or when the property is "substantially improved." In both cases, the property owner is required to submit forms that provide the requisite information.

Florida's assessment process is obviously a little different from California's, but I am pretty sure that the property owner likewise has to submit information concerning the property in question, as well as information concerning the sale or other disposition of the property. That is when the brouhaha about Trump's valuation of Mar a Lago arose. You say he has zero to do with property assessment? The forms which are submitted typically MUST be signed by the property owner, and usually under penalty of perjury. Trump was the owner of Mar a Lago, no? (Even if he owned it through the medium of a legal entity (e.g., corporation, partnership, LLC, or trust) he would have to sign as CEO, managing partner, manager, or Trustee of such entity).

I own several different parcels of real property. I also practice real estate law. So I know a little bit about this subject. Obviously not as much as you do, but who could hope to match your omniscience when it comes to real property tax assessment, or anything else?

Trying to clean up on ails 1 I guess

Just accept it that Trump does not get a choice in setting his assessed property valuations
OK, I just learned something. I have lived in 3 states just over the last few years (own multiple properties) have made improvements in each and have never had a state/county send me a document asking for information on the property. one of those states is Florida, different county though

OK Ned since I judge you to be an open minded person let me add to the educational process based on my life experienced.

My family including in-laws and such have multiple plots of taxable and tax exempt properties over multiple years like 70 and we have bought, sold, rented, improved, developed, maintained with the number of deeds exceeding 1000’s with the states being many including paying taxes in multiple states including Florida including Fort Lauderdale and Tampa with the majority being in South Carolina.

We borrowed money on the properties, paid cash, did exotic swap deals, traded land for land, sold and bought properties using valuations either paying buyer or seller asking price, paying tax valuation, paying professional appraisal valuation with every transaction paying the stamp taxes and other fees.

As of today fo share a personal fun story my wife inherited two small lots from my father in law that he bought one night when I was dating his daughter somewhere around 1965 for $250.
He told me he just bought them for fun. Had too much money and needed to put it somewhere.
So when he passed while the estate was in trust my wife didn’t want two small lots in Lakeland Florida so she tried to donate or sell them. No luck. So after the trust and probate was settled she got this two 3/4 acre lots. Years pass and these two lots bought for $250 now have people calling and asking her if they can buy them. Last effort was $75,000.00 each. To her credit I tell that just keep them and give them to our grandchildren when they are ready for college and then let them sell them to pay for college.

On your being in the military my son and I with me being the lazy one bought and remodeled and rented houses particularly of military members in Charleston and Columbia SC where in many cases they would a house and then get stuck when they moved to a new base. Worked pretty good on flipping for a capital gain but not as well on renting for us. Don’t do that any more.

Anyway with all that explanation I must say that I have no dam idea and don’t what the hell @LafayetteBear is talking about where they ask the property owner to answer question.

The only things I get for property evaluations from the tax assessor is the te-evaluation notices and a tax due notice from the County Treasurer.

Don’t feel like I am missing anything and again it would be interesting to know what I have been missing in real estate as I am clueless on the mystery of county governments asking the property owners to help assess their property.

OVER AND OUT
 

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Sigh ... Of course counties "evaluate properties for taxes." The process is called "assessment," and it is usually performed by one or more employees in the local County Assessor's office. But property owners have a role in the process. At least they do in California. Property owners are supposed to submit information concerning the Property in order to assist the County Assessor in reassessing the value of the Property. In California at least, real property is reassessed on two occasions: when there is a "change of ownership" or when the property is "substantially improved." In both cases, the property owner is required to submit forms that provide the requisite information.

Florida's assessment process is obviously a little different from California's, but I am pretty sure that the property owner likewise has to submit information concerning the property in question, as well as information concerning the sale or other disposition of the property. That is when the brouhaha about Trump's valuation of Mar a Lago arose. You say he has zero to do with property assessment? The forms which are submitted typically MUST be signed by the property owner, and usually under penalty of perjury. Trump was the owner of Mar a Lago, no? (Even if he owned it through the medium of a legal entity (e.g., corporation, partnership, LLC, or trust) he would have to sign as CEO, managing partner, manager, or Trustee of such entity).

I own several different parcels of real property. I also practice real estate law. So I know a little bit about this subject. Obviously not as much as you do, but who could hope to match your omniscience when it comes to real property tax assessment, or anything else?

Just to be clear I OWN PROPERTIES IN FLORIDA

NEVER HAD I HAD TO FILL OUT AND SIGN ANYTHING IN 70 years to present

Wanted to share MY EXPERIENCE

PLEASE ANY PERSON MORE INFORMED JUMP IN
 

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Just to be clear I OWN PROPERTIES IN FLORIDA

NEVER HAD I HAD TO FILL OUT AND SIGN ANYTHING IN 70 years to present

Wanted to share MY EXPERIENCE

PLEASE ANY PERSON MORE INFORMED JUMP IN
You never had to fill out and sign anything in 70 years to present, eh? That's awesome. I sure hope the Florida taxing authorities don't find out about that.

I don't profess to be an expert, or anything approaching it, with respect to Florida's real property tax regime, but a brief Google search indicates that, in addition to being subject to annual reassessment (with a 3% cap on year-over-year increases in assessed value), Florida real property is subject to a "full reassessment to market value ... on January 1 of the year following a change in ownership."

Here is the precise verbiage I read:

In Florida, all real property is subject to annual assessment as of January 1 each year by the county property appraiser. However, the assessed value is limited by the "Save Our Homes" cap, preventing year-over-year increases from exceeding 3% for properties with homestead exemption. A full reassessment to market value is triggered on January 1 of the year following a change in ownership.

According to the sites I quickly perused, the new assessed value following a change in ownership resulting from an arm's length sale of the property is heavily influenced by the purchase price of the property. So the County Assessor would quite likely want information on the purchase price of the property. How do you think the Assessor is going to obtain that information? Via ESP? The information comes from the new owner/taxpayer.

I didn't spend much time looking for the precise forms. This debate is not sufficiently important to me to justify my spending time doing so. But I DID come across the form linked below (an "Informal Assessment Review Form" for Miami-Dade County). It seems obvious that Miami-Dade real property owners routinely file this form if they disagree with the new assessed value their County Assessor came up with following their purchase. (I'm confident other Florida counties have somewhat similar forms.) Perhaps you never took exception to the assignment of a new assessed value for your many parcels of Florida real property. That could be. It fits in well with your willingness to accept as Gospel anything that Donald Trump happens to blurt out.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.miamidadepa.gov/pa/library/assessment-review-form.pdf
 

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You never had to fill out and sign anything in 70 years to present, eh? That's awesome. I sure hope the Florida taxing authorities don't find out about that.

I don't profess to be an expert, or anything approaching it, with respect to Florida's real property tax regime, but a brief Google search indicates that, in addition to being subject to annual reassessment (with a 3% cap on year-over-year increases in assessed value), Florida real property is subject to a "full reassessment to market value ... on January 1 of the year following a change in ownership."

Here is the precise verbiage I read:

In Florida, all real property is subject to annual assessment as of January 1 each year by the county property appraiser. However, the assessed value is limited by the "Save Our Homes" cap, preventing year-over-year increases from exceeding 3% for properties with homestead exemption. A full reassessment to market value is triggered on January 1 of the year following a change in ownership.

According to the sites I quickly perused, the new assessed value following a change in ownership resulting from an arm's length sale of the property is heavily influenced by the purchase price of the property. So the County Assessor would quite likely want information on the purchase price of the property. How do you think the Assessor is going to obtain that information? Via ESP? The information comes from the new owner/taxpayer.

I didn't spend much time looking for the precise forms. This debate is not sufficiently important to me to justify my spending time doing so. But I DID come across the form linked below (an "Informal Assessment Review Form" for Miami-Dade County). It seems obvious that Miami-Dade real property owners routinely file this form if they disagree with the new assessed value their County Assessor came up with following their purchase. (I'm confident other Florida counties have somewhat similar forms.) Perhaps you never took exception to the assignment of a new assessed value for your many parcels of Florida real property. That could be. It fits in well with your willingness to accept as Gospel anything that Donald Trump happens to blurt out.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.miamidadepa.gov/pa/library/assessment-review-form.pdf


For a lawyer you sure don't know the answer before you ask the question. I love it when in a hole someone doubles down and digs deeper.

I used to travel in my work, and I was considered an expert in the area regarding military facilities CONUS AND OCONUS. The laugh I would always get was my superiors in management would always say keep your mouth shut as much as possible in preliminary meetings because when you open your mouth and the THICK HEAVY GULLAH GEJEE CAJUN ACCENT comes out the base dudes are going to think hick and country bumpkin. No way this dude is so country and knows what he is doing. LOL

That was a marketing issue with people perceptions of Southern White Country Boys cannot be experts an only Coat and Ties with polished perfect protocols could fit that bill coming the typical military industrial complex up in the Virginia area or big companies.

I am kind of feeling this with you on your posting and writings. The point is you have opened your mouth and revealed yourself and doubled down on ignorance and lack of experience.

Your Words: I sure hope the Florida taxing authorities don't find out about that.

My Words: Been doing it forever and still am till I die and real estate attorneys I work with in Florida are doing it too for me. I will go with MY proven experience and expert advice PROVIDED BY PROFESSIONAL FOLKS IN FLORIDA TO ME and not some off the wall uninformed novice wet behind the ear's wannabe rookie so called expert @LafayetteBear When you hit a minimum of 300 transactions get back to me and we can talk.


Your Words: In Florida, all real property is subject to annual assessment as of January 1 each year by the county property appraiser.

My Words: I would say you answered your own question does Trump set the Property evaluation. NEVER. Like Trump We typically receive any reassessment notice; however, Trump nor I have no interaction with the assessor's office unless I wish to contest the latest tax assessment. Same with Trump.

In an attempt to educate you on my experience I feel typical I need to add. The assessed value is NOT THE MARKET VALUE. THE MARKET VALUE is what someone will pay for it. Business 101 for Dummies. Florida may reassess yearly, but South Carolina is typically every 5 years with a guy with a tape and ruler and comparing recent sales price or comps based on registered real estate sales prices which they have.


Trumps Mar Largo could bring 2 billion. Yes, that is with a B. The court and DA were totally dishonest at evaluating it at 18 million and not allowing expert real estate appraisers explain the actual value. LAWFARE AT IT'S FINEST.

DUDE STOP ARGUING FROM LOW GROUND AND AN UNINFORMED POSTITION. I LOVE IT WHEN YOU SAID YOU READ ABOUT IT. I DON'T READ ABOUT IT. I AM DOING IT.

Hope you don't take this as being disrespectful. Just my experiences are real world and typical. It does NOT AGREE WITH YOUR ATTEMPTED NARRATIVE.
 
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Did Lisa Cook, Adam Schiff, or Leticia James ever meet with or take money from Russian oligarchs or Russian cutouts? Manafort did so repeatedly. He's a crook, just like his Orange complected capo.
so, how was the taking money from oligarchs relevant to mortgage fraud?
 

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This should shock you, but Growls tweet didn’t share the full story.
to be honest, I don't care enough to read all the "who shot john's" of manafort's sordid background.

I guess I'm too pollyanna in my belief that if you commit a crime you should be punished, somehow. If cook falsified mortgage documents - punished.

People come up with all the rationalizations - victimless, clerical error, yada yada.

But look at the Indian tractor trailer driver. In the US illegally, trying to earn a living, makes an illegal uturn (maybe because he could I=n't understand the signage, kills three people....there are plenty of rationalizations, but he'll be punished.

And, please, I'm not equating mortgage fraud with initiating traffic deaths. I'm only trying to point out that we have two crimes (assuming both actually committed crimes). When we get to the point where we overlook one and not the other, it's a slippery slope. And I don't care about the whataboutisms. If Trump was guilty of fraud then he should be punished...same with Biden, Schiff, etc as well as any other Republican who did the same or similar things. IMo its when we overlook prosecution of one person it opens to door to people questioning "what about....". If everyone's on an equal footing, that should go away.

Like I said, pollyanna........
 

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to be honest, I don't care enough to read all the "who shot john's" of manafort's sordid background.

I guess I'm too pollyanna in my belief that if you commit a crime you should be punished, somehow. If cook falsified mortgage documents - punished.

People come up with all the rationalizations - victimless, clerical error, yada yada.

But look at the Indian tractor trailer driver. In the US illegally, trying to earn a living, makes an illegal uturn (maybe because he could I=n't understand the signage, kills three people....there are plenty of rationalizations, but he'll be punished.

And, please, I'm not equating mortgage fraud with initiating traffic deaths. I'm only trying to point out that we have two crimes (assuming both actually committed crimes). When we get to the point where we overlook one and not the other, it's a slippery slope. And I don't care about the whataboutisms. If Trump was guilty of fraud then he should be punished...same with Biden, Schiff, etc as well as any other Republican who did the same or similar things. IMo its when we overlook prosecution of one person it opens to door to people questioning "what about....". If everyone's on an equal footing, that should go away.

Like I said, pollyanna........
No issues with any of that. Just think saying Manafort and Cook did the same crime, why are they being treated different is hilarious.