Fed Governor Lisa Cook Fired with Cause

PalmettoTiger1

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You in particular are one of the people I am talking about. How many times have you said that everyone is doing the fraud that Trump committed when getting his loan? You have repeatedly stated that over and over. Like within the past week I believe since his case and the penalty has come up. It wasn't just misrepresenting Mar A Lago, it was claiming multitudes of square footage on a penthouse that didn't exist, and many more things. But you keep stating in all caps how much it doesn't bother you about Trump. That you are loving what he is doing. Zero public trust has been betrayed by him to you. But Cook claims residence in two places and suddenly public trust has been betrayed and you need people that are lily white clean.

Again, if she is guilty, I say treat her exactly like you would anyone else found to have claimed residence in two homes, and move forward. (And I don't know what that is, do they just pay back pay? Are they going to prison for that? (I doubt it)).

It's the "virtue signaling" or whatever the opposite is of that that I find humorous and over the top.

I am going to pass on explaining anymore about Trump and just enjoy the reality that for the next 3 1/2 years Trump is going to reign SUPREME and own the Democrats.

Trump is going to make America Golden.

You can be miserable. I am going to LOVE IT.
 

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And there is ZERO you can do to stop Trump from making America GREAT AGAIN

GET USE TO BEING A LOSER FOR MANY YEARS
He is making America the OPPOSITE of GREAT and ONLY a LOSER in the 38% wouldn't recognize that FACT
 

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He is making America the OPPOSITE of GREAT and ONLY a LOSER in the 38% wouldn't recognize that FACT

It was just announced by some pollsters Trump has the highest public support at this time in his Presidency as a few recent one.

Also on the ground polls are showing that such policies as hard on crime is a 90/10 or higher issue.

I just need to take a nap on you as for the next 3 1/2 years Trump is your worse nightmare.

Hope you find a Happy Place to go to.
 

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It was just announced by some pollsters Trump has the highest public support at this time in his Presidency as a few recent one.

Also on the ground polls are showing that such policies as hard on crime is a 90/10 or higher issue.

I just need to take a nap on you as for the next 3 1/2 years Trump is your worse nightmare.

Hope you find a Happy Place to go to.
LOL, you live in a foggy red bubble by choice and we all know your only source of news is FoxNews, the Tofurkey of the news industry.

And I was wrong about 38%, the latest poll shows his approval at 37%. That's you they're talking about and not many others.


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I am going to pass on explaining anymore about Trump and just enjoy the reality that for the next 3 1/2 years Trump is going to reign SUPREME and own the Democrats.

Trump is going to make America Golden.

You can be miserable. I am going to LOVE IT.
I’m really not miserable at all.

I just think your reaction to this is silly and performative and was pointing out a clear hypocrisy.

I think it’s fine to not really care about what Trump did. I understand why a supporter of his would feel like all big businesses likely do it, or he was just signing and someone else handled it, etc. But I just think it’s literally funny that that would be your opinion, but someone with a much smaller, less important, less public job checks a box incorrectly that saves herself some money (hurting no one personally, not changing her vote for this money or anything) and it’s such a huge deal.

It’s just funny.
 
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LOL, you live in a foggy red bubble by choice and we all know your only source of news is FoxNews, the Tofurkey of the news industry.

And I was wrong about 38%, the latest poll shows his approval at 37%. That's you they're talking about and not many others.


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Keep watching the fake biased polls

They are the same ones predicting Kamala Harris was a shoo in

Those polls find suckers to pay for what the people want to hear
 

dpic73

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Keep watching the fake biased polls

They are the same ones predicting Kamala Harris was a shoo in

Those polls find suckers to pay for what the people want to hear
LMAO, Nate Silver is using 10 polls, including ones from Trump friendly pollsters and all of them except one show him underwater. Time to accept the fact that Trump is a deeply unpopular president Gramps, despite what Maria Bartiromo and Jesse Watters tell you on your tv. You need to accept that you're in the minority by a wide margin and it will only get wider.
 
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Hitler is very good. He is doing everything possible not to have those Epstein files exposed. Child rapist!
 

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Ned: You forgot about Trump inciting the January 6 insurrection and the Supreme Court subsequently giving him a free pass for it, even though the clear language of the 14th Amendment should have made him ineligible for any elective office.

And you forgot about him stealing hundreds of boxes of documents belonging to the Federal Government (many of them classified), and subsequently blowing off the National Archives when it asked, then demanded, their return. With considerable assistance from that sycophantic District Judge in Florida (I forget her name), Trump managed to run out the clock on that prosecution, but it does not change the fact that he committed those crimes.

Hopefully, he will be prosecuted when his term as President ceases (if he does not stroke out before then).
I haven't forgotten, but here's the thing, and i'm not sticking up for trump, but until he's found guilty and sentenced then.....

You seem to think that our legal system is rigged for Trump...is it just possible that for some reason the courts didn't agree with your positions? I'm not a lawyer, so I don't see the inner workings of things the way you do, l only see the end result. And so far, no matter all the court cases and indictments, Trump is till walking free and in a second term as president.

Maybe he'll be prosecuted after his term , but there's a likely chance by that time he'll be just a tired old man with a poor memory.
 

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Based on the evidence that is public, you don’t think he signed fraudulent documents? Is your argument that he was framed or that it just isn’t a big deal?
He did not. The entire crux of the charge is they are stating he overvalued his collateral holding value to get loans. He has long since paid those loans off with interest also. Many independent experts stated NY grossly undervalued his holdings in the charges. It's all bs and this is compared to Cook who absolutely fraudulently claimed two separate homes as her primary residence within just a few weeks time-frame.
 

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I’m really not miserable at all.

I just think your reaction to this is silly and performative and was pointing out a clear hypocrisy.

I think it’s fine to not really care about what Trump did. I understand why a supporter of his would feel like all big businesses likely do it, or he was just signing and someone else handled it, etc. But I just think it’s literally funny that that would be your opinion, but someone with a much smaller, less important, less public job checks a box incorrectly that saves herself some money (hurting no one personally, not changing her vote for this money or anything) and it’s such a huge deal.

It’s just funny.

Let
 

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He did not. The entire crux of the charge is they are stating he overvalued his collateral holding value to get loans. He has long since paid those loans off with interest also. Many independent experts stated NY grossly undervalued his holdings in the charges. It's all bs and this is compared to Cook who absolutely fraudulently claimed two separate homes as her primary residence within just a few weeks time-frame.
So he didn’t say his penthouse was three times larger than it is?
 
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He did not. The entire crux of the charge is they are stating he overvalued his collateral holding value to get loans. He has long since paid those loans off with interest also. Many independent experts stated NY grossly undervalued his holdings in the charges. It's all bs and this is compared to Cook who absolutely fraudulently claimed two separate homes as her primary residence within just a few weeks time-frame.
TigerGrowls: He was overvaluing various properties for one purpose (e.g., to qualify for mortgage loans) and undervaluing them for another purpose (real property taxes and federal estate taxes, which are typically computed with reference to the FMV of the subject property). And he was doing so contemporaneously. How does that not constitute fraud?
 
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TigerGrowls: He was overvaluing various properties for one purpose (e.g., to qualify for mortgage loans) and undervaluing them for another purpose (real property taxes and federal estate taxes, which are typically computed with reference to the FMV of the subject property). And he was doing so contemporaneously. How does that not constitute fraud?
The only fraud that matters and means you aren’t worthy of public office is if you’re on the Fed’s board.
 
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TigerGrowls: He was overvaluing various properties for one purpose (e.g., to qualify for mortgage loans) and undervaluing them for another purpose (real property taxes and federal estate taxes, which are typically computed with reference to the FMV of the subject property). And he was doing so contemporaneously. How does that not constitute fraud?

TigerGrowls: He was overvaluing various properties for one purpose (e.g., to qualify for mortgage loans) and undervaluing them for another purpose (real property taxes and federal estate taxes, which are typically computed with reference to the FMV of the subject property). And he was doing so contemporaneously. How does that not constitute fraud?
I'm afraid growls might be caught up in an argument similar to those who downplay Cook's fraud on mortgage applications. I own more than one house and have been tempted many times to claim primary residence on all of them at mortgage application time. I don't think there's any doubt that information on trump's loan applications was correct. Clearly it was not. Similarly, and this is where fair debate comes in , the court substantially undervalued some of his properties. Valuing Mar a Lago at $28million is laughable.

Similar circumstances it appears for Cook...still to be proven for sure. But from what I've seen, she was not 100% forthright on her applications.

To me if one was indicted so should the other...and so should James and Schiff - if the fraud is provable,

Fair is fair, and no one is above the law.
 

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I'm afraid growls might be caught up in an argument similar to those who downplay Cook's fraud on mortgage applications. I own more than one house and have been tempted many times to claim primary residence on all of them at mortgage application time. I don't think there's any doubt that information on trump's loan applications was correct. Clearly it was not. Similarly, and this is where fair debate comes in , the court substantially undervalued some of his properties. Valuing Mar a Lago at $28million is laughable.

Similar circumstances it appears for Cook...still to be proven for sure. But from what I've seen, she was not 100% forthright on her applications.

To me if one was indicted so should the other...and so should James and Schiff - if the fraud is provable,

Fair is fair, and no one is above the law.
This is not apples to apples imo. Not the same stated crime.
 
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TigerGrowls: He was overvaluing various properties for one purpose (e.g., to qualify for mortgage loans) and undervaluing them for another purpose (real property taxes and federal estate taxes, which are typically computed with reference to the FMV of the subject property). And he was doing so contemporaneously. How does that not constitute fraud?
Disagree with your opinion here. No one in NY was ever indicted for anything similar to what they went after Trump for. The bank lenders even came in and vouched for him. This is lunacy.
 
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So he didn’t say his penthouse was three times larger than it is?

I laugh every time I see people say Trump said something or did something

Trump has people to do these things

Do you really think Trump measured the penthouse

No someone else measured it and in the end all he did was sign the final documents

The CEO of a major corporation does not have time for the tiny

He has to do the big

Yes he is ultimately responsible for the conduct of every employee as to their actions and his management and response to those actions but he does not have puppet strings controlling them

Sometimes employees accidentally or purposely go off the rails

I assume you work for someone so I pose the question to you foes your boss know every detail or watch like a hawk your every breath you take

Hopefully NOT LOL
 

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TigerGrowls: He was overvaluing various properties for one purpose (e.g., to qualify for mortgage loans) and undervaluing them for another purpose (real property taxes and federal estate taxes, which are typically computed with reference to the FMV of the subject property). And he was doing so contemporaneously. How does that not constitute fraud?

Dude you are aware that Trump does NOT EVALUATE PROPERTIES FOR TAXES

COUNTIES HAVE TAX ASSESSORS WHO DO THAT

TRUMP HAS ZERO TO DO WITH PROPERTY ASSESSMENT

I ASK MYSELF HOW CAN A PERSON IN AMERICA BE SO UNEDUCATED AND MISINFORMED ABOUT
THIS

YOU MUST NOT OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY

CONSIDER YOURSELF HAVING BEEN INFORMED
 

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I’m pretty sure you posted that “no one is above the law” not that long ago

did you have a change of heart or do you want a two-tier justice system?
He’s consistently inconsistent. I’ll say that about our friend huckleberry.
 
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TigerGrowls: He was overvaluing various properties for one purpose (e.g., to qualify for mortgage loans) and undervaluing them for another purpose (real property taxes and federal estate taxes, which are typically computed with reference to the FMV of the subject property). And he was doing so contemporaneously. How does that not constitute fraud?
Literally every land/property developer in the history of the world does this. What’s your point. Hell I personally try to undervalue my own property for tax purposes too. The law was being applied in this way because who the defendant was, period. The entire world knows that. And guess what, making him a felon didn’t work anyway. He’s still your president.
 
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I laugh every time I see people say Trump said something or did something

Trump has people to do these things

Do you really think Trump measured the penthouse

No someone else measured it and in the end all he did was sign the final documents

The CEO of a major corporation does not have time for the tiny

He has to do the big

Yes he is ultimately responsible for the conduct of every employee as to their actions and his management and response to those actions but he does not have puppet strings controlling them

Sometimes employees accidentally or purposely go off the rails

I assume you work for someone so I pose the question to you foes your boss know every detail or watch like a hawk your every breath you take

Hopefully NOT LOL
I absolutely do not know every detail. I am also not sitting here saying that this action (while it absolutely was fraud by the organization, full stop) is that big of a deal, or a personal travesty, or a huge deal where everyone involved should resign in disgrace. Just saying everyone's comments on a Fed Board member are funny in light of this. But to my other question, if an AG were to do the same thing Cook has done, claim more than one primary residence, is that a position where you would expect them to resign due to that?
 
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I absolutely do not know every detail. I am also not sitting here saying that this action (while it absolutely was fraud by the organization, full stop) is that big of a deal, or a personal travesty, or a huge deal where everyone involved should resign in disgrace. Just saying everyone's comments on a Fed Board member are funny in light of this. But to my other question, if an AG were to do the same thing Cook has done, claim more than one primary residence, is that a position where you would expect them to resign due to that?
You’re not asking me but I’d say this. I think no one would care if the left hadn’t done what they did to Trump. It’s that simple. We live in a morally relativistic world and there two opposing forces here. If you strike one they want to strike back. That’s been my position all along. IMO the left started this lawfare by trying to make a guy a felon, not because of what he did, but because of who he is. Now it’s on and the other side wants their pound of flesh. It’s completely natural. You may think one is a more serious crime than the other but that doesn’t matter. It’s revenge.
 

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I absolutely do not know every detail. I am also not sitting here saying that this action (while it absolutely was fraud by the organization, full stop) is that big of a deal, or a personal travesty, or a huge deal where everyone involved should resign in disgrace. Just saying everyone's comments on a Fed Board member are funny in light of this. But to my other question, if an AG were to do the same thing Cook has done, claim more than one primary residence, is that a position where you would expect them to resign due to that?

I would say that any obvious attempts to circumvent US law is a serious issue for a public servant if that public servant is particularly responsible for the enforcement of those laws.

Point on Trump us the massive business portfolios he is responsible for assure one that there are COMPLIANCE ISSUES.

That is my point with him. Thats why companies have lawyers to handle the constant litany of issues. If one disqualified a Fortune 500 from doing business with the government due to fraud of mistakes there would be no one left to do business with the government.
 

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If someone were in the role of AG, should they also resign for claiming more than one primary residence?

Just to add to the fray

One person had to drop out some office position because they did not report baby sitter payments and pay Social Security taxes.

Never know what will bite you.
 

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I would say that any obvious attempts to circumvent US law is a serious issue for a public servant if that public servant is particularly responsible for the enforcement of those laws.

Point on Trump us the massive business portfolios he is responsible for assure one that there are COMPLIANCE ISSUES.

That is my point with him. Thats why companies have lawyers to handle the constant litany of issues. If one disqualified a Fortune 500 from doing business with the government due to fraud of mistakes there would be no one left to do business with the government.
Have you called for Ken Paxton to resign?

With Trump, while I think it was a crime so to speak, I really don't truly care about it. I do suspect that it is somewhat common (over claiming on loan applications, then underclaiming on tax documents). My main point has really just been that it humors me seeing people act just over the top offended some random person on a Fed board apparently did something that also just isn't that big of a deal to me.
 
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Have you called for Ken Paxton to resign?

With Trump, while I think it was a crime so to speak, I really don't truly care about it. I do suspect that it is somewhat common (over claiming on loan applications, then underclaiming on tax documents). My main point has really just been that it humors me seeing people act just over the top offended some random person on a Fed board apparently did something that also just isn't that big of a deal to me.
I felt the same way watching supposed unbiased judges doing everything they could to get a conviction for a victimless crime. Seems we all are seeing humor in this, just at different points.
 

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I felt the same way watching supposed unbiased judges doing everything they could to get a conviction for a victimless crime. Seems we all are seeing humor in this, just at different points.
If it helps, while I think the crime was committed, I also wasn't offended by what Trump did, and didn't feel it was worthy of that trial/conviction/etc, or call for him to drop out of the election due to it.
 
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If someone were in the role of AG, should they also resign for claiming more than one primary residence?
If our government officials, in any position, are gaming the system then they need to be fired.

There should not be two tiers of justice in this country. If anything, the people elected to office should be held to a higher standard than everyone else.

Cook has not denied that she falsified her application. She wanted a set of rules for her and a different set for everyone else.

Fired with cause is appropriate.
 

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If it helps, while I think the crime was committed, I also wasn't offended by what Trump did, and didn't feel it was worthy of that trial/conviction/etc, or call for him to drop out of the election due to it.
I agree with what you’re getting at for the most part. What I’m saying is many of us felt he was being railroaded, trivially, because of who he is. Now it’s happening to the other side and they don’t like it. Take the specific crimes and throw it out the window. Both things are not that big a deal and if they’d been done by you or I no one would care. I’m simply reminding the left that they put him through hell in court for nothing so don’t complain when it happens to them. They set the precedent for this immature crap. I don’t like either side doing it, but damn at some point you have to fight back. That’s what I like about Trump the most. Not his politics but his ability to weather any and everything the left throws at him. I know you don’t like him and that’s ok too.
 

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Have you called for Ken Paxton to resign?

With Trump, while I think it was a crime so to speak, I really don't truly care about it. I do suspect that it is somewhat common (over claiming on loan applications, then underclaiming on tax documents). My main point has really just been that it humors me seeing people act just over the top offended some random person on a Fed board apparently did something that also just isn't that big of a deal to me.

She is not some random person on the Fed Board. She is in charge of setting the interest rates that she was gaming. Totally unnacceptable. Fired with cause.

And yes , if Ken Paxton did the same thing, he should resign. Doesn't matter what party, what color, what ideology, they should all be held to the same standard.
 

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I agree with what you’re getting at for the most part. What I’m saying is many of us felt he was being railroaded, trivially, because of who he is. Now it’s happening to the other side and they don’t like it. Take the specific crimes and throw it out the window. Both things are not that big a deal and if they’d been done by you or I no one would care. I’m simply reminding the left that they put him through hell in court for nothing so don’t complain when it happens to them. They set the precedent for this immature crap. I don’t like either side doing it, but damn at some point you have to fight back. That’s what I like about Trump the most. Not his politics but his ability to weather any and everything the left throws at him. I know you don’t like him and that’s ok too.
Sure, and if that were the line I were seeing on here, it wouldn't make me laugh. It may frustrate me, because it feels like I just want both sides to be better, but I at least would understand it. All the holier than thou talk is what is humoring me. That's all I've been saying. Say "turnabout is fair play" etc, fine. I won't like it, just like I didn't love the NY AG thing either. But at least that is genuine. That's all.
 
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