OT: Prayers in Minneapolis

[vatiger1]

Looks like an active situation unfolding. Shooting at a Catholic school during Mass, mainly a school for young children 8 and under.

Shooter is dead but unconfirmed reports of Children who were shot and injured.

Dont know how a person could ever do that, may the shooter rot in hell.

Prayers for the kids and Families and no fatalities.

 

[TigerinLA]

They're saying shooter is contained and not been taken out. Terrible situation. As a parent of 3 at a Catholic school this makes me want to cry. I can't even imagine what those poor kids and parents are going through.

Reports of 20+ dead.

 

[Dbatz]

Minneapolis is a hot bed of Muslim immigrants, it will be interesting to see who is responsible. No matter who it is I hope they die.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

They're saying shooter is contained and not been taken out. Terrible situation. As a parent of 3 at a Catholic school this makes me want to cry. I can't even imagine what those poor kids and parents are going through.

Reports of 20+ dead.

They said 20 casualties, not dead, at least yet

 

[CuTigers2020]

As a child of Catholic school education who has a sister currently in a Catholic HS, may the shooter rot in hell

Coward

“For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world”

 

[GDead_Tiger]

Minneapolis is a hot bed of Muslim immigrants, it will be interesting to see who is responsible. No matter who it is I hope they die.

I'd be surprised if it was a Somali immigrant, more than likely they're a troubled white guy who showed classic warning signs, but cops said the shooter already killed themself

 

[TigerinLA]

I'd be surprised if it was a Somali immigrant, but cops said the shooter already killed themself

The news is changing so fast. I heard they contained him. Hope he's dead. Eff that guy.

 

[TC Tiger]

The news is changing so fast. I heard they contained him. Hope he's dead. Eff that guy.

I hope he's alive and they strap each limb to a horse and yank him apart in a public square. We need public executions to come back to perhaps deter these sick individuals from committing these evil acts.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

I was going to post about it too, but you beat me to it.

As a mass going Catholic I believe in the efficacy of prayer. I also believe in doing stuff to prevent preventable tragedies. I know our country isn't willing to do that though. First week of school and we already have one actual incident plus hoaxes at universities across the country. I have words to say but they would only increase enmity so I'll keep them to myself. Mary Mother of Mercy pray for us.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

I hope he's alive and they strap each limb to a horse and yank him apart in a public square. We need public executions to come back to perhaps deter these sick individuals from committing these evil acts.

That won't do jack when they can just off themselves or do suicide by cop

 

[yoshi121374]

I was going to post about it too, but you beat me to it.

As a mass going Catholic I believe in the efficacy of prayer. I also believe in doing stuff to prevent preventable tragedies. I know our country isn't willing to do that though. First week of school and we already have one actual incident plus hoaxes at universities across the country. I have words to say but they would only increase enmity so I'll keep them to myself. Mary Mother of Mercy pray for us.

I'm with you. When is enough enough?

May those who were killed Rest in Peace and Rise in Glory.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

I'm with you. When is enough enough?

May those who were killed Rest in Peace and Rise in Glory.

Nothing changed after Columbine. Nothing changed after Newton. Nothing changed after Stoneman-Douglas. Nothing changed after Uvalde. Nothing changed after Charleston. Nothing changed after Highland Park. I know I'm forgetting others too

 

[GDead_Tiger]

Local news coverage, including the upcoming press conference. 3 confirmed dead already including the shooter and a child https://www.kare11.com/

 

[Clemson Goat]

Shooter took his own life. Police recovered 1 rifle, 1 shotgun , and 1 pistol. Shooter used all 3.
Two students dead , multi students (age 6 - 14 ) and faculty members hurt.

 

[tboonpickens]

Nothing changed after Columbine. Nothing changed after Newton. Nothing changed after Stoneman-Douglas. Nothing changed after Uvalde. Nothing changed after Charleston. Nothing changed after Highland Park. I know I'm forgetting others too

The mayor had a powerful line...basically said "don't make this about thoughts and prayers. these kids were literally praying in a church."

 

[dbjork6317]

Looks like an active situation unfolding. Shooting at a Catholic school during Mass, mainly a school for young children 8 and under.

Shooter is dead but unconfirmed reports of Children who were shot and injured.

Dont know how a person could ever do that, may the shooter rot in hell.

Prayers for the kids and Families and no fatalities.

Just another day in America

 

[Silverstreak02]

Nothing changed after Columbine. Nothing changed after Newton. Nothing changed after Stoneman-Douglas. Nothing changed after Uvalde. Nothing changed after Charleston. Nothing changed after Highland Park. I know I'm forgetting others too

I lost all hope after Sandy Hook. We let a maniac walk into a classroom and slaughter 6-year-old children and did nothing about it.

 

[Silverstreak02]

Just another day in America

"No way to prevent this" says the only country in the world where it happens

 

[TequilasForLoss]

An act of pure evil and horribly tragic. Every public shooting is, but targeting a gathering of children is somehow even more sad to me.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

I lost all hope after Sandy Hook. We let a maniac walk into a classroom and slaughter 6-year-old children and did nothing about it.

Yep. We all know what the issue is. But the solution is too inconvenient for some people

 

[TooterTownTiger]

Yep. We all know what the issue is. But the solution is too inconvenient for some people

Agree, unfortunately no one is willing to let teachers, principals and staff carry to defend themselves.

 

[bjohnson32]

Pleasantly startled by the replies in this thread. Maybe it's early and the worm will turn when more people log on. It's long been time for material and impactful changes in this country with regards to gun violence and mass shootings.

I can't imagine what those kids and families will have to deal with in the days and decades ahead of them. As a teacher married to a teacher with two small kids, I pray we never have to endure one of these incidents head on as a family.

 

[Paul Strelow]

I daydream about this feared scenario way too often when sitting with our family in Mass.

Gut-wrenching.

Motive could be any number of things, so best to wait for more info before making any reaching judgments.

My two cents, and it's nothing more than a single opinion, is that this becomes one side yelling at guns and the other yelling at people. The answer probably lies in some of both, and nothing will be done to reduce these events until both sides concede ground in an effort to do everything possible to reduce the violence here.

 

[tboonpickens]

Agree, unfortunately no one is willing to let teachers, principals and staff carry to defend themselves.

yep my grandma and mama who probably made $30K a year and had to buy their own school supplies every year were definitely qualified for Jason Bourne training. good call.

amazing to me that we had dozens of cops sitting outside the doors in Uvalde pissing down their legs while shots rang out over and over but we still think "good guys with guns" is the issue here.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

Agree, unfortunately no one is willing to let teachers, principals and staff carry to defend themselves.

No, sorry, that’s an insane response. Teachers are over worked and under paid. And you want them to carry firearms in a classroom? You want teachers to potentially shoot and kill someone? What on earth is wrong with you

 

[Howard's Jock]

I daydream about this feared scenario way too often when sitting with our family in Mass.

Gut-wrenching.

Motive could be any number of things, so best to wait for more info before making any reaching judgments.

My two cents, and it's nothing more than a single opinion, is that this becomes one side yelling at guns and the other yelling at people. The answer probably lies in some of both, and nothing will be done to reduce these events until both sides concede ground in an effort to do everything possible to reduce the violence here.

we cant give in..there are political points to be scored!

 

[Silverstreak02]

I daydream about this feared scenario way too often when sitting with our family in Mass.

Gut-wrenching.

Motive could be any number of things, so best to wait for more info before making any reaching judgments.

My two cents, and it's nothing more than a single opinion, is that this becomes one side yelling at guns and the other yelling at people. The answer probably lies in some of both, and nothing will be done to reduce these events until both sides concede ground in an effort to do everything possible to reduce the violence here.

This is true. But we have leadership in this country that wants to do nothing about firearms and also wants to remove access to mental health care.

Sadly, it's a lot like that Simpsons meme where they say "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas."

Trump’s Rollback of Rules for Mental Health Coverage Could Lead More Americans to Go Without Care

The president, who has framed mental health as a national crisis, paused rules to hold insurers accountable for unlawfully denying coverage. And Congress cut funding to the agency that enforces insurers’ equal treatment of mental and physical health.

www.propublica.org

 

[GDead_Tiger]

yep my grandma and mama who probably made $30K a year and had to buy their own school supplies every year were definitely qualified for Jason Bourne training. good call.

amazing to me that we had dozens of cops sitting outside the doors in Uvalde pissing down their legs while shots rang out over and over but we still think "good guys with guns" is the issue here.

Yeah I’m thinking about the women in their 60s who taught me in kindergarten, or the girls fresh out of college and the moms I worked with. We want them to confront a homocidal shooter? Come on

 

[tboonpickens]

The answer probably lies in some of both, and nothing will be done to reduce these events until both sides concede ground in an effort to do everything possible to reduce the violence here.

With all due respect, what would you suggest intelligent and ethical people do to remedy this situation when the same side that claims this phenomenon is just about mental illness repeatedly votes down mental health initiatives? Sorry, but the both sides talk here doesn't pass the smell test.

These are innocent children being slaughtered. Let's call a spade a spade here and not mince words. The same people who think it's just a coincidence that America is the only industrialized nation with more guns than citizens also don't put their money where their mouth is when it comes to prioritizing mental health.

 

[Esso13]

Local news coverage, including the upcoming press conference. 3 confirmed dead already including the shooter and a child https://www.kare11.com/

Just awful, prayers for all who are effected .

 

[dbjork6317]

I daydream about this feared scenario way too often when sitting with our family in Mass.

Gut-wrenching.

Motive could be any number of things, so best to wait for more info before making any reaching judgments.

My two cents, and it's nothing more than a single opinion, is that this becomes one side yelling at guns and the other yelling at people. The answer probably lies in some of both, and nothing will be done to reduce these events until both sides concede ground in an effort to do everything possible to reduce the violence here.

Both sides-ism is an absolute cancer. One side is absolutely open to dealing with both the gun issue and the mental health issue. The side that insists guns are not a problem at all and we should only treat it as a mental health also refuse to do anything about the mental health problem.

there’s only one side that throws up their hands every time this happens, says nothing can be done and it shouldn’t be “politicized” and then sends oh so effective thoughts and prayers and then forgets about it.

 

[Silverstreak02]

Yeah I’m thinking about the women in their 60s who taught me in kindergarten, or the girls fresh out of college and the moms I worked with. We want them to confront a homocidal shooter? Come on

All these "arm the teachers" people all think they're John Wayne. News flash, they're not. And their life isn't an action movie.

 

[yoshi121374]

Yeah I’m thinking about the women in their 60s who taught me in kindergarten, or the girls fresh out of college and the moms I worked with. We want them to confront a homocidal shooter? Come on

My wife is a teacher, and has also had a CWP permit and is an excellent shot. She has said repeatedly that she would never carry in a school even if it were allowed.

It's an insane idea.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

All these "arm the teachers" people all think they're John Wayne. News flash, they're not. And their life isn't an action movie.

We can’t pay teachers well or give them adequate school supplies but sure can give them guns and proper training

 

[Silverstreak02]

We can’t pay teachers well or give them adequate school supplies but sure can give them guns and proper training

weird how we're able to find the money for that, isnt' it?

 

[Willence]

With all due respect, what would you suggest intelligent and ethical people do to remedy this situation when the same side that claims this phenomenon is just about mental illness repeatedly votes down mental health initiatives? Sorry, but the both sides talk here doesn't pass the smell test.

These are innocent children being slaughtered. Let's call a spade a spade here and not mince words. The same people who think it's just a coincidence that America is the only industrialized nation with more guns than citizens also don't put their money where their mouth is when it comes to prioritizing mental health.

Why don't you educate as to why Republicans voted against this ridiculous bill? Or are you so simple as to believe that if a bill is named something, that must be what it is? Perhaps it's best to read what's in there to understand it? Republicans weren't against providing assistance with mental health services. They were against the trial lawyer boondoggle this bill could have created and several other factors which neither side was willing to negotiate.

Further, we can't legislate our way out of the sickness we have in our country. This is a reflection of the culture in the United States. It's about how we raise our children and the crap we expose them to. It's about the total lack of eternal moral truths which are foundational to any successful society. It's about so much more than anyone wants to talk about because avoidance of reality is the name of the game these days.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

Why don't you educate as to why Republicans voted against this ridiculous bill? Or are you so simple as to believe that if a bill is named something, that must be what it is? Perhaps it's best to read what's in there to understand it? Republicans weren't against providing assistance with mental health services. They were against the trial lawyer boondoggle this bill could have created and several other factors which neither side was willing to negotiate.

Further, we can't legislate our way out of the sickness we have in our country. This is a reflection of the culture in the United States. It's about how we raise our children and the crap we expose them to. It's about the total lack of eternal moral truths which are foundational to any successful society. It's about so much more than anyone wants to talk about because avoidance of reality is the name of the game these days.

If people are as sick and twisted as you say then we should make it harder for them to access firearms. Also some irony since you too are avoiding the reality because you don’t like it.

I absolutely detest the condescending attitude one side takes. “Oh you think we can make the world a better place? You fool! You idiot!”

 

[tboonpickens]

BotH SiDeS

 

[dbjork6317]

weird how we're able to find the money for that, isnt' it?

Kind of like we’re able to find money to send the natl guard to DC and harass homeless people instead of just housing them, which would be cheaper.

 

[charlestontiger417]

Nothing changed after Columbine. Nothing changed after Newton. Nothing changed after Stoneman-Douglas. Nothing changed after Uvalde. Nothing changed after Charleston. Nothing changed after Highland Park. I know I'm forgetting others too

Nothing will change and it sucks. SO many excuses will surface, though.