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Another CMS school playing with players that didn’t live in their school district.
 

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Another CMS school playing with players that didn’t live in their school district.
Trust, programs in that part of the world are going foolish right now by shredding paper trails, burning doc's in burn barrels, and changing names from Charlotte Bees to Charlotte Love Bugs.

Charlotte is on the map and the https://www.

Stake the white flag. There's a huge storm in the area.

It's getting ugly and 3.5 months left in the off season.

Who's Next?
 
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I would trust Hunter Biden with a pipe in a Las Vegas cat house before I would trust any football program in the Charlotte metro area to be abiding by the rules.. Stand by tho.. the Charlotte metro posters will be on here saying it ain’t happening in the big city..
 
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I would trust Hunter Biden with a pipe in a Las Vegas cat house before I would trust any football program in the Charlotte metro area to be abiding by the rules.. Stand by tho.. the Charlotte metro posters will be on here saying it ain’t happening in the big city..
11 games forfeit, $250 fine, and backpay earned moneys from playoffs


 
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Hey pops them Charlotte posters think everyone else is ignorant! But who’s ignorant now? Them teams up there starting to fall like dominoes!!
I remember once when MC housed a couple from here, there, and everywhere. Fayetteville, Lumberton High School, and many many many many many and much more.

Let all the excuses out.......here we go

Let's begin with an athlete named Marquez North

 

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Hey pops them Charlotte posters think everyone else is ignorant! But who’s ignorant now? Them teams up there starting to fall like dominoes!!
You had to wait and read a article from the News. I could have given you, way more information than the Charlotte Observer, or any other news agency in Charlotte. So No! People from Charlotte don't believe you're ignorant. That's an internal battle you have going on with yourself. :) It is Hilarious that you actually believe this only happens in Charlotte, and it's something new. You're late to the game. People have been talking about this stuff for decades. Definitely more to come. You're not even a football guy. You're more like somebody's Aunt who heard the news at a book club meeting. Damn! You're more excited about this news, than a 12 year old little girl seeing her 1st boy band. Calm down little man. Like anyone cares who you trust. The Charlotte Observer is always last to know. FYI! If you want more up to date information. Just Ask. Don't bust a blood vessel.
 
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You had to wait and read a article from the News. I could have given you, way more information than the Charlotte Observer, or any other news agency in Charlotte. So No! People from Charlotte don't believe you're ignorant. That's an internal battle you have going on with yourself. :) It is Hilarious that you actually believe this only happens in Charlotte, and it's something new. You're late to the game. People have been talking about this stuff for decades. Definitely more to come. You're not even a football guy. You're more like somebody's Aunt who heard the news at a book club meeting. Damn! You're more excited about this news, than a 12 year old little girl seeing her 1st boy band. Calm down little man. Like anyone cares who you trust. The Charlotte Observer is always last to know. FYI! If you want more up to date information. Just Ask. Don't bust a blood vessel.
Source;WCCB.. Bro you always talking about what you know before everyone else..what’s up with that? You probably don’t know you had a bowel movement until ya drawers get moist..Not a football guy? No way I can prove I am or I’m not a football guy. One thing is for certain tho.. the accusations of recruiting and the use of illegal transfers that have been circulating for years in the Charlotte area is true. Proof is coming out now.. Where there’s smoke there’s fire! 🔥
 
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Source;WCCB.. Bro you always talking about what you know before everyone else..what’s up with that? You probably don’t know you had a bowel movement until ya drawers get moist..Not a football guy? No way I can prove I am or I’m not a football guy. One thing is for certain tho.. the accusations of recruiting and the use of illegal transfers that have been circulating for years in the Charlotte area is true. Proof is coming out now.. Where there’s smoke there’s fire! 🔥
No Shiggady! No! It’s being made public now. The proof has always been there. Everyone in Charlotte knows. It’s not really hard to follow. When it comes to football in Charlotte. Everyone knows where kids are going. Especially the high profile kids. The regular Joe’s, not as much. It’s not a difficult task to find out, when kids live next door to kids they played against on Friday night.. lol!
I get a lot of flack from Charlotte guys talking about Hough. You think Myers Park was bad. Hough had a better recruiting class then most Mid-Majors.
 

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Hold up, West Charlotte got caught with players living out of district as well? Interesting. Same coach who had a great season at Harding then left for a school in Concord. Some kind of issue came up there and now an issue at WC? Hmmm. Interesting.
 
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Steelers its not the coach at all. Those same Harding players won 1 game, and the season after he left the new coach 1 game or so with Crouch before he shut the season down. And they won it small 4A vs. A scotland team minus Zamir. So context is needed.

WC is a CMS school thats not full so more than likely it was a first year 12th grader that came over from another CMS school. Hard for coach to find those
 
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WC is not exactly a place recruiting typically occurs. At least traditionally. Isn't Greiner the coach at WC?
Greiner is the coach. He's a great coach. Just from a basic knowledge of CMS, WC is a school that's not full and losing students. They lose more football players than they gain in most years. So any student in CMS can attend WC if they provide their on transportation if they are out of the residency district. They have been open to IB students for at least 5 years for grades 9-11 so its a very easy school to get into legally if you wanted to attend.

That's why I say its a 12th grader new to the school that's in question. They likely had already established a sports school so the only way they could attend and play at WC was for them to move into their attendance residency zone and make WC their "home school". If not they would be ineligible for 365 but could attend the school. Therein lies the problem. After the season is over and the smoke clears said player/players feel relaxed and chills at true home and gets caught. Then the backtracking starts.

If WC had issues as easy as it is to get in prior to the 12th grade and with their checks and balances system the rest of CMS better be on high alert.
 

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Source;WCCB.. Bro you always talking about what you know before everyone else..what’s up with that? You probably don’t know you had a bowel movement until ya drawers get moist..Not a football guy? No way I can prove I am or I’m not a football guy. One thing is for certain tho.. the accusations of recruiting and the use of illegal transfers that have been circulating for years in the Charlotte area is true. Proof is coming out now.. Where there’s smoke there’s fire! 🔥
Just a couple years back the G-line was:
Parents move because of jobs
Then kids talk among each other

THEN A COUPLE YEARS AGO YOU HAVE THIS BELOW........Boy you couldnt argue with any of the Charlotte posters since "Parents" was the key brand.

PARENTS......was the true cover up word in place of "Recruiting" LOL
Big daddy hits it 100%. You may stop some egregious stuff but the bulk of it is legal moves of parents. This is life now......Mom and Dad rent for a year, maybe it cost them $40k out of pocket to save $ 360k.

Now, most are delusional as the parents of the Creek kids that bolted found out. Hackett gone Ferbee gone and zero offers. But hey....its only $$$
They have cracked down. A bunch really. The issue is not recruiting, its not coaches, its not players, its PARENTS. Parents legally move their children into certain schools who have good football programs, that have good band programs, that have excellent teachers, excellent wrestling, excellent principal. etc etc. They are making legal moves into apartments, relatives homes, new homes, and 2dn residency homes. The PARENTS are doing this in the best interest of their child. How do you police that if its a legal move? Thats the question. Folks have figured the system out in making legit moves, and making moves before 9th grade to avoid scrutiny. Used this example before. My nephew attended Richmond County, Mallard Creek, and then Richmond County again and no one cared because he didn't play football. Had he been a football player Mallard Creek and Richmond both would have been called cheats. Know parents who son is great musician. Didn;t get into Northwest, but now attends Hickory Ridge in Cabarrus County. More of this stype of stuff goes on moreso than football. But folks solely focus on football as its the money maker.
No Shiggady! No! It’s being made public now. The proof has always been there. Everyone in Charlotte knows. It’s not really hard to follow. When it comes to football in Charlotte. Everyone knows where kids are going. Especially the high profile kids. The regular Joe’s, not as much. It’s not a difficult task to find out, when kids live next door to kids they played against on Friday night.. lol!
I get a lot of flack from Charlotte guys talking about Hough. You think Myers Park was bad. Hough had a better recruiting class then most Mid-Majors.

But now that the smoke is spreading and the fire is hotter, we will play the honest game...."Everyone in Charlotte knows about recruiting, it's not hard to figure out" LOL

Forrest Gump said "Stupid is as Stupid does"
Charlotte is currently the example of what Not to Do.

The question is: Who's Next?

 
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Remember when WC forfeited their 1996 or 1997 season? Everyone went crazy pointing fingers. Player had been at WC for his freshman and sophomore school years on the IB program. He was instructed by his academic advisor that he would be better to drop from the IB program and go into the standard classes to improve his GPA for college options. He did as instructed. At the time CMS had just put a new computerized registry system in place so the change was not caught by the AD that checked the records. Per CMS rule he was changing "schools" due to leaving the IB program as he did not live in the WC district. This required the student to set out of athletic competitions for 365 days. He could have set out and stayed at WC or he could have returned to his home district school and played sports on day one. When it happened I had never even heard of him but due to CMS rules he was ineligible and they forfeited the season which included two losses to Richmond.

The AD had been the national AD of the year. He resigned. Guy was crushed.

Not saying 2021 is anything like that one but I am saying there is often no malicious intent on anyone's part. It is often a "perfect storm" and just happens. You are talking about a school that is probably 90% government subsidized meals with a huge amount of students from very non traditional households. I can only imagine what any urban schools went through the last two years with COVID and the school attendance regulations.

The difference between CMS and other districts now and in 2008 will be the current administration is going to put a lot of emphasis on this and that includes utilzing CMS Police to investigate and even following students or setting outside their homes. After seeing the investigative reports from 2007-2008 a school superintendent from one of the largest systems in NC said that any system under that scrunity would find issues.
 
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Just a couple years back the G-line was:
Parents move because of jobs
Then kids talk among each other

THEN A COUPLE YEARS AGO YOU HAVE THIS BELOW........Boy you couldnt argue with any of the Charlotte posters since "Parents" was the key brand.
I think parents move to Charlotte due to economic factors. Some may be delusional while others may be right to think that the move will help their child get to the next level. I think every situation is different and it up to the parent to do what is the best for their family although I often wonder how the family even survives.

Parents are normally the biggest issue. Parents "recruit" themselves meaning Johnny is an All American when in reality Johnny is not on the all neighborhood team. Kids "recruit" kids. Coaches do not have to do that much. If they have a winner that is moving players to the next level it is not as much about going after the potential player as weeding out what you get.

There is a lot of legalities involved with investigations, actual residency, and children's well being. That is both civil and federal complexities.
 
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Just a couple years back the G-line was:
Parents move because of jobs
Then kids talk among each other

THEN A COUPLE YEARS AGO YOU HAVE THIS BELOW........Boy you couldnt argue with any of the Charlotte posters since "Parents" was the key brand.

PARENTS......was the true cover up word in place of "Recruiting" LOL




But now that the smoke is spreading and the fire is hotter, we will play the honest game...."Everyone in Charlotte knows about recruiting, it's not hard to figure out" LOL

Forrest Gump said "Stupid is as Stupid does"
Charlotte is currently the example of what Not to Do.

The question is: Who's Next?


S2V2! You’re a 😈 Troll. No matter how many accounts you set up on NCPREPS. Outside of me calling you an Idiot moron every other week. Nobody really responds to you. If you don’t step up your troll game. I’m going to stop responding. 😂
 
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As Btango mentioned WC is a little different than most highschools as the school is IB and not a full school for transfers per CMS. So as he said a player could be eligible 9th, 10th, 11th, and drop IB and thus become ineligible for 365 Or attended as a transfer student and enroll in IB and become ineligible. Or possibly was caught riding the CMS bus to the school as a transfer. So it could not be a clear cut residency issue, but possibly a student changing between programs or transportation issue. As mentioned above attending WC legally 9-11 grade is rather easy even if not in their attendance zone.

Make no mistake about it. Its parents that are the issue.
 
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As Btango mentioned WC is a little different than most highschools as the school is IB and not a full school for transfers per CMS. So as he said a player could be eligible 9th, 10th, 11th, and drop IB and thus become ineligible for 365 Or attended as a transfer student and enroll in IB and become ineligible. Or possibly was caught riding the CMS bus to the school as a transfer. So it could not be a clear cut residency issue, but possibly a student changing between programs or transportation issue. As mentioned above attending WC legally 9-11 grade is rather easy even if not in their attendance zone.

Make no mistake about it. Its parents that are the issue.
Most of the world’s problems (and especially in education) are because of adults.
 

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Agree as everyone not a child is an adult. Sports have become a badge of honor for parents now. My my my , and me me me. The team concept has been diminished and only winning at all cost and scholarships matter. Dont parents realize to play ANY level of college football is less than 10%, and D1 is less than 3%? But they transfer schools, recruit players, spend on travel/training. Over zealous parents are killing sports.
 
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Agree as everyone not a child is an adult. Sports have become a badge of honor for parents now. My my my , and me me me. The team concept has been diminished and only winning at all cost and scholarships matter. Dont parents realize to play ANY level of college football is less than 10%, and D1 is less than 3%? But they transfer schools, recruit players, spend on travel/training. Over zealous parents are killing sports.
Kids are kidnapped at camps and among other ways. The truth is the illegal recruiting is now bleeding in one place and that's Charlotte.

Charlotte is on the Map.

Because the NCHSAA is now cracking down on WHAT NOT TO DO, some schools may no longer look identical to a small college size group from here forward.....
 

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Kids are kidnapped at camps and among other ways. The truth is the illegal recruiting is now bleeding in one place and that's Charlotte.

Charlotte is on the Map.

Because the NCHSAA is now cracking down on WHAT NOT TO DO, some schools may no longer look identical to a small college size group from here forward.....
Illegal recruiting at camps takes place everywhere. Greensboro, Raleigh and other places are no exception.
Bigdad or nepsy or btango, is this a result of new CMS AD looking into every school? Or just a case of a mistake that was self-reported?
 
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Combination of things. The new AD certainly has expressed an open door to the parents that are constantly turning in information. She has said she is going to look into things brought to her attention.
In the case of Myers Park that new principal was put in specifically to turn things around because of the sexual assaults. Currently he is not going to overlook anything that would make MP look bad, especially a house full of out of state athletes whose parents are nowhere to be found.
 

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Now it has trickled to the NCAA level with the transfer portal. Kid has to sit and earn his PT, doesn't feel like he got treated right, or was slept on, or it was a "toxic situation", and Boom the transfer on out. Some kids were enrolled in new Universities prior the end of the fall semester at their previous school. That's crazy to me. It would be interesting to see how many in the portal played at more then one HS. Just to evaluate for any correlation.
 

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Illegal recruiting at camps takes place everywhere. Greensboro, Raleigh and other places are no exception.
Bigdad or nepsy or btango, is this a result of new CMS AD looking into every school? Or just a case of a mistake that was self-reported?
The new AD is open to communication no doubt. What happens is when you put a mouse trap out it catches mice, rats, ants, roaches, spiders. There will be more to come. Again think the WC issue may be residency issue with a new 12th grader or an internal IB transfer. Its too easy to get into WC legally as opposed to other schools.

NCHSAA is not cracking down. These are self reported. MP, Hough, Chambers are transfer central. Expect more news.
 

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Kids are kidnapped at camps and among other ways. The truth is the illegal recruiting is now bleeding in one place and that's Charlotte.

Charlotte is on the Map.

Because the NCHSAA is now cracking down on WHAT NOT TO DO, some schools may no longer look identical to a small college size group from here forward.....
S2V2! What was going on when you were slobbering all over Drake Maye and Myers Park? You didn't know? Or did you just find out?
 
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Because the NCHSAA is now cracking down on WHAT NOT TO DO, some schools may no longer look identical to a small college size group from here forward.....
The NCHSAA is not cracking down. CMS is cracking down. Zero communication from NCHSAA on investigating anyone. ZERO. NCHSAA provided guidance on rules and penalties after CMS brought the info to them.

Personally, I think it is a bit of a cop out to go after schools coming off the pandemic years. It was a complete cluster with some systems not even having in person class the majority of the school year. There were students that moved out of state and still went to school on line at their NC school.

This fall would have been a good time to put an emphasis on residency and really get after it.
 

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Illegal recruiting at camps takes place everywhere. Greensboro, Raleigh and other places are no exception.
Bigdad or nepsy or btango, is this a result of new CMS AD looking into every school? Or just a case of a mistake that was self-reported?
I think this AD is more apt to take action. I think we will find that they will go after some that meet the requirements to be there but it will be a process and the student/athlete will suffer.
 

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Remember when WC forfeited their 1996 or 1997 season? Everyone went crazy pointing fingers. Player had been at WC for his freshman and sophomore school years on the IB program. He was instructed by his academic advisor that he would be better to drop from the IB program and go into the standard classes to improve his GPA for college options. He did as instructed. At the time CMS had just put a new computerized registry system in place so the change was not caught by the AD that checked the records. Per CMS rule he was changing "schools" due to leaving the IB program as he did not live in the WC district. This required the student to set out of athletic competitions for 365 days. He could have set out and stayed at WC or he could have returned to his home district school and played sports on day one. When it happened I had never even heard of him but due to CMS rules he was ineligible and they forfeited the season which included two losses to Richmond.

The AD had been the national AD of the year. He resigned. Guy was crushed.

Not saying 2021 is anything like that one but I am saying there is often no malicious intent on anyone's part. It is often a "perfect storm" and just happens. You are talking about a school that is probably 90% government subsidized meals with a huge amount of students from very non traditional households. I can only imagine what any urban schools went through the last two years with COVID and the school attendance regulations.

The difference between CMS and other districts now and in 2008 will be the current administration is going to put a lot of emphasis on this and that includes utilzing CMS Police to investigate and even following students orhis setting outside their homes. After seeing the investigative reports from 2007-2008 a school superintendent from one of the largest systems in NC said that any system under that scrunity would find issues.

I hope it doesn't get that far. I think that there is an over reach of government. The time spent sitting outside a kid's home to see if he's going to the right school could be better spent investigating crime.
 

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I hope it doesn't get that far. I think that there is an over reach of government. The time spent sitting outside a kid's home to see if he's going to the right school could be better spent investigating crime.
Agree to an extent. There is definitely a bias in the investigation into athletics when it involves football and basketball. When is the last time you heard of any player being ruled ineligible in any other sports or programs? Football does have more numbers, but even comparatively speaking football gets hit the most and the most attention. Residency moves for academics are far more prevalent IMHO.

How do you police parents and their choices? The schools get penalized. Think the first thing to do is review the transfer/residency process. Not sure how much lega address checking can be done, but maybe a database to serach for multiple students at one address, basic name/address checks, and random spot checks like random NFL drug test. You simply cant target a school or player. If info provided on the snitch line have it reviewed.
 
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Agree to an extent. There is definitely a bias in the investigation into athletics when it involves football and basketball. When is the last time you heard of any player being ruled ineligible in any other sports or programs? Football does have more numbers, but even comparatively speaking football gets hit the most and the most attention. Residency moves for academics are far more prevalent IMHO.

How do you police parents and their choices? The schools get penalized. Think the first thing to do is review the transfer/residency process. Not sure how much lega address checking can be done, but maybe a database to serach for multiple students at one address, basic name/address checks, and random spot checks like random NFL drug test. You simply cant target a school or player. If info provided on the snitch line have it reviewed.
How do you police coaches and their choices in Charlotte?
 

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I hope it doesn't get that far. I think that there is an over reach of government. The time spent sitting outside a kid's home to see if he's going to the right school could be better spent investigating crime.
I've heard numerous kids recently getting 365 in the Raleigh area. Not very familiar with how they do things there. In Charlotte with social media, and the majority of kids all knowing each other, through youth leagues and parents talking. Coaches doing there on investigations. Not a lot to investigate. It's already out there. People believe it's a breaking story when it comes out in the Charlotte News, or a local news channels tells the story. Parents will give you detailed information for free. They'll be some other programs getting popped, and high profile players moving around to other schools. You really don't have to set outside someone's house to find out this information.

There's over 1000 alleged trainers in Charlotte. People are obsessed in this area about Football. Regardless of how people feel about what going on in the area. You'll have to go through Charlotte to win the 4A State Championship. It's not changing in the near future,
 

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The NCHSAA is not cracking down. CMS is cracking down. Zero communication from NCHSAA on investigating anyone. ZERO. NCHSAA provided guidance on rules and penalties after CMS brought the info to them.

Personally, I think it is a bit of a cop out to go after schools coming off the pandemic years. It was a complete cluster with some systems not even having in person class the majority of the school year. There were students that moved out of state and still went to school on line at their NC school.

This fall would have been a good time to put an emphasis on residency and really get after it.
Let's take the NCHSAA out of this trigonometry equation.

Now let's replace it with CMS.

There was Myers Park first "self reporting"
Now there's West Charlotte "self Reporting"

Myers Park would be considered a RED FLAG
West Charlotte would be considered A PROBLEM

Now CMS should conduct a thorough inspection of Charlottes "normal way of life's" Ideology and/or behavior that has been allowed, accepted, and ignored all together for ages.

If CMS follows through with every school, that little college look in Charlotte will no longer exist.
 

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Let's take the NCHSAA out of this trigonometry equation.

Now let's replace it with CMS.

There was Myers Park first "self reporting"
Now there's West Charlotte "self Reporting"

Myers Park would be considered a RED FLAG
West Charlotte would be considered A PROBLEM

Now CMS should conduct a thorough inspection of Charlottes "normal way of life's" Ideology and/or behavior that has been allowed, accepted, and ignored all together for ages.

If CMS follows through with every school, that little college look in Charlotte will no longer exist.
S2V2! If NCPREPS follows through and kicks you off the forum with all of your accounts, you little psychopath nut, we would be getting rid of a midget idiot.
 
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