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They are D1 FCS. Play in the Ohio Valley. He had FBS interest, also.

Come on man I was just trying to lighten things up a little on here. The great state and f Charlotte has had D-1 talent for years. We just don’t have those guys very often but they are around here.
 
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Lol this post is hilarious... I'm gonna keep it real with yall, being we(Havelock) played both teams. I understand that anything can happen in a game and any given Sunday, Sat, or Fri any team can win but Jville will have to play a completely different game than they are used to playing and it will have to be the best game they played all yr and then sum to beat CC. Jville starts off too slow sum games, u do that and the game is over b4 u knew it started. We looked at film and saw this team and thought the same thing Jville fans think right now, it ain't gonna go the way u think it will lol. If yall think u gonna have enough plays to score 30, u are delusional. Think u gonna just run that option all game and win, delusional. Think your QB can throw for 20 yards, get a halfback pass, and a bunch of turnovers against this team and win, delusional. Think u can get behind on the scoreboard and have a great 2nd half comeback, I'm sorry to tell yall it wont happen. You gonna leave this game with the same shock we left with last yr, how the hell did a team with 11 white guys on defense do this to all these athletes we have lmao!!! Sorry, just speaking facts, but carry on with yall convo lol
11 white guys are you serious?
 

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Yea, Murphy and Swain are typically 11 white kids too, i think all those rings they have between them speak for themselves.
 

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Lol a bunch of 4.8 4.9 guys in the backfield right? QB could not hit the broad side of a barn right? A bunch of slow 180 lbs offensive and defensive lineman right? Yeah we get Catholic easy win!

Actually, no. I already have stated I thought the offense was fun to watch....but the competition was very weak. He asked how much I had seen Jville and I answered.

You girls get defensive .
 

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I ran a few simulations regarding Catholic and Jacksonville. I ran simulations for Catholic against Jacksonville's schedule, both the regular season and playoff. I did the same for Jacksonville against Catholic's schedule. Before a couple of people, who shall remain anonymous by me, get their gander up, I want to mention a couple of caviats. First, these simulations are approximations. About 80-85% of the time they are pretty close. But they are approximations. I wouldn't put up a wager based on a simulation. Second, so many factors go into the games, that simulations may or may not be accurate regarding point spread or even the team winning. I'll be the first to say that simulations aren't perfect. They are only approximations that can give some idea of a comparison between teams. With that being said, the simulation results are below. I'll also include the actual result of the games that were actually played, involving those teams.

Jacksonville's Regular Season and Playoff Schedule

Catholic's Results Against That Schedule - Record 12-0

SW Onslo 35-7 Jacksonville - 40-13
East Duplin 41-6 Jacksonville - 35-21
Laney 52-3 Jacksonville - 31-6
Northside 47-0 Jacksonville - 35-0
W. Cartaret 46-3 Jacksonville - 35-3
Swansboro 62-0 Jacksonville - 65-0
Havelock 38-28 Jacksonville - 27-45 and 41-34
White Oak 62-3 Jacksonville - 42-3
Eastern Wayne 55-0 Jacksonville - 56-21
Western Alamance 40-16 Jacksonville - 56-28
Eastern Alamance 44-14 Jacksonville - 59-17
Havelock - 38-31


Charlotte Catholic's Regular Season and Playoff Schedule

Jacksonville's Results Against That Schedule - Record 11-3

Charlotte Christian 22-34 Catholic - 0-6
South Mecklenburg 42-10 Catholic - 37-0
Charlotte Country Day 34-14 Catholic - 20-3
Ardrey Kell 35-14 Catholic - 51-0
Monroe 35-24 Catholic - 21-14 and 42-0
Weddington 22-34 Catholic - 20-0
Sun Valley 28-26 Catholic - 28-7
Piedmont 46-10 Catholic - 41-0
Parkwood 46-6 Catholic - 49-14
Cuthbertson 44-20 Catholic - 42-7
Marvin Ridge 31-21 Catholic - 39-24
Morehead 44-6 Catholic - 42-0
Hunter Huss 22-27 Catholic - 28-7
Kings Mountain 31-28 Catholic - 30-7


Happy Debating!
 
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Actually, no. I already have stated I thought the offense was fun to watch....but the competition was very weak. He asked how much I had seen Jville and I answered.

You girls get defensive .

Keep running that trap it may get shut!!

I’m all about the game and how we will win or lose and enjoying the process. Just stop talking ****, don’t need any keyboard kings up here!!

I think we will have about 300 yds rushing another 185 passing
 
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I ran a few simulations regarding Catholic and Jacksonville. I ran simulations for Catholic against Jacksonville's schedule, both the regular season and playoff. I did the same for Jacksonville against Catholic's schedule. Before a couple of people, who shall remain anonymous by me, get their gander up, I want to mention a couple of caviats. First, these simulations are approximations. About 80-85% of the time they are pretty close. But they are approximations. I wouldn't put up a wager based on a simulation. Second, so many factors go into the games, that simulations may or may not be accurate regarding point spread or even the team winning. I'll be the first to say that simulations aren't perfect. They are only approximations that can give some idea of a comparison between teams. With that being said, the simulation results are below. I'll also include the actual result of the games that were actually played, involving those teams.

Jacksonville's Regular Season and Playoff Schedule

Catholic's Results Against That Schedule - Record 12-0

SW Onslo 35-7 Jacksonville - 40-13
East Duplin 41-6 Jacksonville - 35-21
Laney 52-3 Jacksonville - 31-6
Northside 47-0 Jacksonville - 35-0
W. Cartaret 46-3 Jacksonville - 35-3
Swansboro 62-0 Jacksonville - 65-0
Havelock 38-28 Jacksonville - 27-45 and 41-34
White Oak 62-3 Jacksonville - 42-3
Eastern Wayne 55-0 Jacksonville - 56-21
Western Alamance 40-16 Jacksonville - 56-28
Eastern Alamance 44-14 Jacksonville - 59-17
Havelock - 38-31


Charlotte Catholic's Regular Season and Playoff Schedule

Jacksonville's Results Against That Schedule - Record 11-3

Charlotte Christian 22-34 Catholic - 0-6
South Mecklenburg 42-10 Catholic - 37-0
Charlotte Country Day 34-14 Catholic - 20-3
Ardrey Kell 35-14 Catholic - 51-0
Monroe 35-24 Catholic - 21-14 and 42-0
Weddington 22-34 Catholic - 20-0
Sun Valley 28-26 Catholic - 28-7
Piedmont 46-10 Catholic - 41-0
Parkwood 46-6 Catholic - 49-14
Cuthbertson 44-20 Catholic - 42-7
Marvin Ridge 31-21 Catholic - 39-24
Morehead 44-6 Catholic - 42-0
Hunter Huss 22-27 Catholic - 28-7
Kings Mountain 31-28 Catholic - 30-7


Happy Debating!

Thank You, very interesting.
 

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Keep running that trap it may get shut!!

I’m all about the game and how we will win or lose and enjoying the process. Just stop talking ****, don’t need any keyboard kings up here!!

I think we will have about 300 yds rushing another 185 passing
185 passing yards? How much film have u watched on CC bro lol?
 
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I ran a few simulations regarding Catholic and Jacksonville. I ran simulations for Catholic against Jacksonville's schedule, both the regular season and playoff. I did the same for Jacksonville against Catholic's schedule. Before a couple of people, who shall remain anonymous by me, get their gander up, I want to mention a couple of caviats. First, these simulations are approximations. About 80-85% of the time they are pretty close. But they are approximations. I wouldn't put up a wager based on a simulation. Second, so many factors go into the games, that simulations may or may not be accurate regarding point spread or even the team winning. I'll be the first to say that simulations aren't perfect. They are only approximations that can give some idea of a comparison between teams. With that being said, the simulation results are below. I'll also include the actual result of the games that were actually played, involving those teams.

Jacksonville's Regular Season and Playoff Schedule

Catholic's Results Against That Schedule - Record 12-0

SW Onslo 35-7 Jacksonville - 40-13
East Duplin 41-6 Jacksonville - 35-21
Laney 52-3 Jacksonville - 31-6
Northside 47-0 Jacksonville - 35-0
W. Cartaret 46-3 Jacksonville - 35-3
Swansboro 62-0 Jacksonville - 65-0
Havelock 38-28 Jacksonville - 27-45 and 41-34
White Oak 62-3 Jacksonville - 42-3
Eastern Wayne 55-0 Jacksonville - 56-21
Western Alamance 40-16 Jacksonville - 56-28
Eastern Alamance 44-14 Jacksonville - 59-17
Havelock - 38-31


Charlotte Catholic's Regular Season and Playoff Schedule

Jacksonville's Results Against That Schedule - Record 11-3

Charlotte Christian 22-34 Catholic - 0-6
South Mecklenburg 42-10 Catholic - 37-0
Charlotte Country Day 34-14 Catholic - 20-3
Ardrey Kell 35-14 Catholic - 51-0
Monroe 35-24 Catholic - 21-14 and 42-0
Weddington 22-34 Catholic - 20-0
Sun Valley 28-26 Catholic - 28-7
Piedmont 46-10 Catholic - 41-0
Parkwood 46-6 Catholic - 49-14
Cuthbertson 44-20 Catholic - 42-7
Marvin Ridge 31-21 Catholic - 39-24
Morehead 44-6 Catholic - 42-0
Hunter Huss 22-27 Catholic - 28-7
Kings Mountain 31-28 Catholic - 30-7


Happy Debating!


This is very interesting I’m curious to what factors came in for the two losses that Catholic won is it just style of play and the opponents strengths
 

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Folks that watched the Concord game in 2013 were leaning toward Crest being able to control the line and grind the ball. The difference was they shut down the Havelock offense completely.

So hypothetically speaking if Jax some how was able to split time of possession with catholic and neither team turned it over do you guys still think it would be a 3 score game? Not necessarily talking to you just everybody in the thread
 
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185 passing yards? How much film have u watched on CC bro lol?
Hey might not need that much. They have to prove on the field that they can stop the run. I am just curious as to why it is assumed that Jacksonville cannot pass the ball? We have passed the ball pretty effectively when we needed to pass it. So let me ask you this? Have you checked the stats from just the playoffs? Since everyone wants to say the regular season schedule was weak or whatever. So we would agree that the competition was much better in the playoffs correct? Let’s just eliminate the first round game. Let’s talk about the last 3 playoffs games. Did you check the stats on those games? I mean did we not pass the ball at all? When we needed to we did. The run could not be stopped so we went with the run. Now would I be wrong to say that each one of those teams knew our strength on offense? Did you think any of them game plan was to stop Jacksonville passing game? No it was to stop the run. Now did any of those teams stop the run? No! Did Jacksonville have to abandon the run in any of those games and go to a passing game to win? No! So again CC is going to go with what got them to where they are. We are going to go with what got us to where we are. It’s easy for everyone else who is not playing to say what either team has to do. When your watching from home.
 
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I just looked at the Huss Catholic highlights and the two interceptions would have been touchdowns or at the very least a big gain if the quarter back makes the right read instead of throwing it into double or even triple coverage there is holes in that Catholic defense and you can see it just from the highlights alone
 
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I just looked at the Huss Catholic highlights and the two interceptions would have been touchdowns or at the very least a big gain if the quarter back makes the right read instead of throwing it into double or even triple coverage there is wholes in that Catholic defense and you can see it just from the highlights alone
Please don’t say that before somebody gets on here and has a heart attack. Yeah I saw that also. There were theee CC defenders there against 1 receiver in the end zone. Don’t know what the QB saw but I don’t know many teams where that would not be a interception.
 
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Hey might not need that much. They have to prove on the field that they can stop the run. I am just curious as to why it is assumed that Jacksonville cannot pass the ball? We have passed the ball pretty effectively when we needed to pass it. So let me ask you this? Have you checked the stats from just the playoffs? Since everyone wants to say the regular season schedule was weak or whatever. So we would agree that the competition was much better in the playoffs correct? Let’s just eliminate the first round game. Let’s talk about the last 3 playoffs games. Did you check the stats on those games? I mean did we not pass the ball at all? When we needed to we did. The run could not be stopped so we went with the run. Now would I be wrong to say that each one of those teams knew our strength on offense? Did you think any of them game plan was to stop Jacksonville passing game? No it was to stop the run. Now did any of those teams stop the run? No! Did Jacksonville have to abandon the run in any of those games and go to a passing game to win? No! So again CC is going to go with what got them to where they are. We are going to go with what got us to where we are. It’s easy for everyone else who is not playing to say what either team has to do. When your watching from home.


From that highlight I just seen a good quarterback could gash them just on the two plays the Huss QB threw the interceptions on he had a guy wide open on the first in the middle of the zone with only one guy to beat and then the second interception if he hits the flats and picks up the two other blocks by the wr that’s a big gain cause the safety help was on the other side of the field if I could post pictures in here I would show you
 

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So hypothetically speaking if Jax some how was able to split time of possession with catholic and neither team turned it over do you guys still think it would be a 3 score game? Not necessarily talking to you just everybody in the thread

Normally when two teams split time one would think the game would be fairly close. Then again, if one team gets stops deep and the other does not it could still be somewhat onesided.

As I wrote earlier, I am more interested in this game than any other. Matchups and schemes going at the opposition. Does one team get out of what they normally do if it is not working well. Two very strong coaching staffs matching up is always fun to watch.
 
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Please don’t say that before somebody gets on here and has a heart attack. Yeah I saw that also. There were theee CC defenders there against 1 receiver in the end zone. Don’t know what the QB saw but I don’t know many teams where that would not be a interception.

Same as the KM game man. Their QB could have basically walked for a first down (don’t get in a tissy by my exaggeration, I’m just making a point) down to around the 10-12 yard line and he forced a pass into the end zone that he shouldn’t have and it was intercepted. In my opinion that changed the game so quick. More so than fumbling and catholic scoring in first play from scrimmage
 
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Same as the KM game man. Their QB could have basically walked for a first down (don’t get in a tissy by my exaggeration, I’m just making a point) down to around the 10-12 yard line and he forced a pass into the end zone that he shouldn’t have and it was intercepted. In my opinion that changed the game so quick. More so than fumbling and catholic scoring in first play from scrimmage
Sir please don’t point any any flaws in the best defense in the state regardless of classification! Just give it a minute and they are about to come for your head! Only D1 QB can make plays against them.
 

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I’m thinking this one’s going to be a two score game. Except for the first play that went 34 yards for a TD, Catholic struggled to run last week against KM. So they resorted to play action passes and it really hurt KM.


The two or three long passes for completions were absolute daggers. If I’m not mistaken, was all on 3 and long situations.
 

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The two or three long passes for completions were absolute daggers. If I’m not mistaken, was all on 3 and long situations.
Had a 1st and 43 at one point. Scored a TD in two plays. Think we were on our own 30. First of those two plays was QB seeing something on D and telling the coaches which resulted in a huge gain. Then another pass for the final score.
 
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Left tackle, #75 for CC is a freakin' Mack Truck. Just watched a bunch of his highlights. 6'4", 315 lbs? Not sure which players start, but there are six offensive linemen over 265 lbs. on the roster. That's insane.
 

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Hey might not need that much. They have to prove on the field that they can stop the run. I am just curious as to why it is assumed that Jacksonville cannot pass the ball? We have passed the ball pretty effectively when we needed to pass it. So let me ask you this? Have you checked the stats from just the playoffs? Since everyone wants to say the regular season schedule was weak or whatever. So we would agree that the competition was much better in the playoffs correct? Let’s just eliminate the first round game. Let’s talk about the last 3 playoffs games. Did you check the stats on those games? I mean did we not pass the ball at all? When we needed to we did. The run could not be stopped so we went with the run. Now would I be wrong to say that each one of those teams knew our strength on offense? Did you think any of them game plan was to stop Jacksonville passing game? No it was to stop the run. Now did any of those teams stop the run? No! Did Jacksonville have to abandon the run in any of those games and go to a passing game to win? No! So again CC is going to go with what got them to where they are. We are going to go with what got us to where we are. It’s easy for everyone else who is not playing to say what either team has to do. When your watching from home.
Your qb threw for 20 yards against us last game bro, if not for that HB pass yall couldn't throw the ball at all, let's just be real lol... No we didnt stop the run in the "2nd half", but its alot more to that than what yall think smh. The "watching from home" quote was pretty funny tho, seeing as how... oh never mind lol
 
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Your qb threw for 20 yards against us last game bro, if not for that HB pass yall couldn't throw the ball at all, let's just be real lol... No we didnt stop the run in the "2nd half", but its alot more to that than what yall think smh. The "watching from home" quote was pretty funny tho, seeing as how... oh never mind lol
So what was it? Sense your the only guy from Havelock that has made any type of excuse. So was it that you stopped the pass or we really never attempted many because you could not stop the run. So please enlighten us. But again it does not matter what has happened in the past. Hell yall kicked our *** for how many years? And I mean kicked it make no mistake about that. But that was then. This is now. So what was it? I and everyone would love to know what what cause such a great team like you guys to completely fall apart in the second half? When I say great team I mean that not trying to throw shade at all. Nobody is a bigger Havelock fan then me. The only time I am not is when you play the Cards! Anyone else I am cheering for y’all like some of your most diehard fans. That’s no secret go back and read any of my post from the past couple of years.
 

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So what was it? Sense your the only guy from Havelock that has made any type of excuse. So was it that you stopped the pass or we really never attempted many because you could not stop the run. So please enlighten us. But again it does not matter what has happened in the past. Hell yall kicked our *** for how many years? And I mean kicked it make no mistake about that. But that was then. This is now. So what was it? I and everyone would love to know what what cause such a great team like you guys to completely fall apart in the second half? When I say great team I mean that not trying to throw shade at all. Nobody is a bigger Havelock fan then me. The only time I am not is when you play the Cards! Anyone else I am cheering for y’all like some of your most diehard fans. That’s no secret go back and read any of my post from the past couple of years.
Nowhere have I made any excuses for our loss lol, yall kicked our *** lol not denying that... Some things changed from 1st to 2nd half with us tho, things I wont mention bcuz I would never call these out in public. Which is probably the same reason u wont hear it from any other fan on here. Either way that's here nor there, your run game was rolling in the "2nd half", but u were at the game just like I was and yall "attempted" several passes so please let's not act like yall could have thrown for 200 but there was no need lol. Let's just be honest here
 
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Nowhere have I made any excuses for our loss lol, yall kicked our *** lol not denying that... Some things changed from 1st to 2nd half with us tho, things I wont mention bcuz I would never call these out in public. Which is probably the same reason u wont hear it from any other fan on here. Either way that's here nor there, your run game was rolling in the "2nd half", but u were at the game just like I was and yall "attempted" several passes so please let's not act like yall could have thrown for 200 but there was no need lol. Let's just be honest here
Sure I don’t think there is a football team around no matter how good your run game is does not attempt passes. You have never heard me or anyone for that matter say that we are a passing team. Like I said before if running the ball it’s what’s working for you and you don’t need to pass. Why pass? Take what the defense gives you right?
 
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Sure I don’t think there is a football team around no matter how good your run game is does not attempt passes. You have never heard me or anyone for that matter say that we are a passing team. Like I said before if running the ball it’s what’s working for you and you don’t need to pass. Why pass? Take what the defense gives you right?
Ok man, I see your mind is set lol... Good luck 2moro smh
 
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Nowhere have I made any excuses for our loss lol, yall kicked our *** lol not denying that... Some things changed from 1st to 2nd half with us tho, things I wont mention bcuz I would never call these out in public. Which is probably the same reason u wont hear it from any other fan on here. Either way that's here nor there, your run game was rolling in the "2nd half", but u were at the game just like I was and yall "attempted" several passes so please let's not act like yall could have thrown for 200 but there was no need lol. Let's just be honest here

What a game, you guys played your hearts out for sure. Those kids left it all in the field and furthermore were very respectful after the game. Class act in my opinion.
 
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mean I am not getting what your trying to get at or what point your trying to make. Help me understand.

He’s telling you that we got lucky. They had internal issues that caused a distraction that led to us winning. Also that we “attempted” passes but with the exception of a lucky half back pass were unsuccessful. We know that we could not have passed for 200 yds.
 
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He’s telling you that we got lucky. They had internal issues that caused a distraction that led to us winning. Also that we “attempted” passes but with the exception of a lucky half back pass were unsuccessful. We know that we could not have passed for 200 yds.
Gotcha!! Now I get it. I know it just had to something. Glad you can help me understand my man.. lol
 
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So somehow something happened at halftime. Which caused a total breakdown in everything that they wanted to do. In turn their kids just shut it down so did their coaches in order for them to win? Now I understand! Stupid me. Here I thought it had something to do with our kids came out and played lights out in the second half and never quit. Showed heart and the will to fight back.
 
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I mean I am just wondering if the Cards do the unthinkable in some folks eyes and pull off the victory tomorrow. I am really curious to what the reasoning will be? The refs? The weather? Field conditions? Luck? Which one will it be?