Catholic vs Jacksonville

[ForsythCoNC]

One thing that bothers me about these post is how y’all constantly bring up that Catholics players are white. Like white people don’t work out or something lol.

The narrative sets a bad precedent for other situations.

 

[Mr Honda]

One thing that bothers me about these post is how y’all constantly bring up that Catholics players are white. Like white people don’t work out or something lol.

The narrative sets a bad precedent for other situations.

Yep, agree wholeheartedly. White, black, green or pink has no bearing in this or any other game. Talent, heart, coaching, schemes, etc.? Yes! Skin color? Nope!

 

[easy252]

One thing that bothers me about these post is how y’all constantly bring up that Catholics players are white. Like white people don’t work out or something lol.

The narrative sets a bad precedent for other situations.

Please dont do that to this post... My comment was not in anyway racist or saying white kids didnt work hard smdh... Jesus

 

[ForsythCoNC]

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[ForsythCoNC]

Please dont do that to this post... My comment was not in anyway racist or saying white kids didnt work hard smdh... Jesus

Just pointing out something I’ve noticed other people on this forum say. Didn’t call you a racist.

 

[Mr Honda]

Please dont do that to this post... My comment was not in anyway racist or saying white kids didnt work hard smdh... Jesus

You have to be careful though.

 

[ForsythCoNC]

Yep, agree wholeheartedly. White, black, green or pink has no bearing in this or any other game. Talent, heart, coaching, schemes, etc.? Yes! Skin color? Nope!

I was talking to my younger brother who was at the Weddington and Tabor game and he commented on how they should be embarrassed by losing like that to “a bunch of white boys”. I first corrected him and reminded him that he would feel some type of way if some white kids said that about his grades being to good or something. Trying to teach my sibling to not be a hypocrite. Second of all, Weddington was much bigger, stronger, and faster than Tabor. I walked into the stadium knowing Tabor was going to lose after seeing these Weddington kids eye to eye. Don’t judge a book by its cover is basically what I’m trying to say.

 

[BlueandGold34]

Lol this post is hilarious... I'm gonna keep it real with yall, being we(Havelock) played both teams. I understand that anything can happen in a game and any given Sunday, Sat, or Fri any team can win but Jville will have to play a completely different game than they are used to playing and it will have to be the best game they played all yr and then sum to beat CC. Jville starts off too slow sum games, u do that and the game is over b4 u knew it started. We looked at film and saw this team and thought the same thing Jville fans think right now, it ain't gonna go the way u think it will lol. If yall think u gonna have enough plays to score 30, u are delusional. Think u gonna just run that option all game and win, delusional. Think your QB can throw for 20 yards, get a halfback pass, and a bunch of turnovers against this team and win, delusional. Think u can get behind on the scoreboard and have a great 2nd half comeback, I'm sorry to tell yall it wont happen. You gonna leave this game with the same shock we left with last yr, how the hell did a team with 11 white guys on defense do this to all these athletes we have lmao!!! Sorry, just speaking facts, but carry on with yall convo lol

Great post

It never goes the way anyone thinks.That's the beauty of watching Catholic. In an era of 5 wide spread you out RPO's where the goal is getting athletes in space they are the opposite. They negate speed with discipline and they run an offense out of the Bud Wilkinson era that looks simple to defend except almost nobody can. I am sure Jville is a great team.....they are also the exact type of team the Catholic destroys.

Been on this board for about 5 years. If I had a dime for everytime a fan base played Catholic for the first time and reacted exactly like these Jville fans have I would be rich. Its scary how similar it sounds to the Reagan fans, Rose fans, Vance fans etc,etc....." We have too many athletes they wont be able to stop us" The teams that have had some success have largely come and gone. New Bern, Northern Guilford, Crest.......Catholic just keeps rolling over people.

 

[BlueandGold34]

LOL sorry man didn’t realize that I wasn’t allowed to state what my thoughts are? Never said it like it would be easy to do, just my thoughts? What I find real cute is how people act like CC hung the moon. Every team will lose at some point and guess what buddy, there will be some formula that beats them. Also, I never stated I was “breaking down hudl film” I just watched some highlights on there to see what all the talk was about before I seen it in person.

There is absolutely a formula that beats them. Division 1 QB who can make throws under pressure helps ( Jville doesnt have a Hooker, Schrader or Hughes). Big physical front 5 that can re-establish the line of scrimmage especially between the tackles( Jville doesnt have that)Great special teams and the patience required to play field position against them and make them go 80 yards not 50. ( Not sure if Jville has that)

 

[easy252]

There is absolutely a formula that beats them. Division 1 QB who can make throws under pressure helps ( Jville doesnt have a Hooker, Schrader or Hughes). Big physical front 5 that can re-establish the line of scrimmage especially between the tackles( Jville doesnt have that)Great special teams and the patience required to play field position against them and make them go 80 yards not 50. ( Not sure if Jville has that)

Jville does it have great special teams either, we ran the opening KO back like they hadnt watched film and seen why nobody kicks it to that kid lol

 

[Bulldog_012]

There is absolutely a formula that beats them. Division 1 QB who can make throws under pressure helps ( Jville doesnt have a Hooker, Schrader or Hughes). Big physical front 5 that can re-establish the line of scrimmage especially between the tackles( Jville doesnt have that)Great special teams and the patience required to play field position against them and make them go 80 yards not 50. ( Not sure if Jville has that)

Again, I agree with this. I agree with most of what the catholic posters are saying. I’ve never said that I thought Jax would win and I’ve never said that they had what it took to beat them. I am just stating what I think it takes. In my opinion special teams and TO’s is what separated them against Huss and then KM from what I seen and read in news articles. I just say that this could be a good game, you never know. Flipping field position is huge also. You can’t give them short field, you can’t turn the ball over, you gotta catch a couple lucky breaks and play great in all phases of the game.

 

[Footballaholic3232]

One thing that bothers me about these post is how y’all constantly bring up that Catholics players are white. Like white people don’t work out or something lol.

The narrative sets a bad precedent for other situations.

Agreed!

 

[CrestMan7]

Think its cute how you guys are all breaking down hudl films and talking yourself into a win. " Offense doesnt impress me", " Defense only gets interceptions", " Running back doesnt play to his ability", " All ya gotta do is sustain drives" ( last one is my favorite)

They are 58-3 over the last 4 years with 4 straight title appearances. They have been beaten by only 2 teams. Your right.....all ya gotta do is sustain drives!!

Better get back to those Hudl films...LMAO

Just curious homie, who is “Blue and Gold” representing? Dang man, as many red wieners you’ve had in the last week you need to consider changing that name... #swallow

 

[Footballaholic3232]

Just curious homie, who is “Blue and Gold” representing? Dang man, as many red wieners you’ve had in the last week you need to consider changing that name... #swallow

For real!

 

[JVille071]

Good god you can’t say anything about Catholic that’s not a compliment without the fans getting mad you’d think you where in a teen group chat on this board

 

[JVille071]

A wise man once told me everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth. Then it’s insticts and your will to not get knocked out that will make you victorious. With that being said this game reminds of the of the 2014 Havelock vs Crest game Havelock had a great defense and they’re first team d never got scored on other than Mike Hughes and Josh Cabrera single handedly scoring for there teams. I think at the time they had the number 1 ranked defensive player in the country for a junior and crest came out and ran it down there throats. I’m not saying that Havelock team and this CC team is alike but I think Jacksonville May very well have that same desire to win that Crest had that year

 

[UNCWguy]

Looks to me like the SOS is a self fulfilling prophecy. Basically, teams in the West are rated better than teams in the east overall. They all play each other and are all considered to be highly ranked teams because they play and therefore, beat, each other. Terry Sanford had the #3 SOS, but went down to Havelock in the playoffs, who had a SOS lower than JHS at #54

Please dont do that to this post... My comment was not in anyway racist or saying white kids didnt work hard smdh... Jesus

It actually was racist. I haven't spent a moment worrying about the color of their skin, just the stats and style of play. Don't care. I'm more or less looking for the achilles heel of an obviously good team. If we lose, and our running game is shut down completely, I won't be wondering how a bunch of white guys did it, i'll be amazed it happened and give them credit.

This is what happens when you are speaking for yourself and try to speak for others.

 

[splitright30trap]

What is the basic principle behind the Wing T or Double Wing style offense? Is this a power type offense? Just curious as to why a team would choose to run this style?

Anyone know or care to share?

 

[CatholicCougs14]

What is the basic principle behind the Wing T or Double Wing style offense? Is this a power type offense? Just curious as to why a team would choose to run this style?

Anyone know or care to share?

It can be a power offense, also lots of misdirection. Not quite what South Point runs, but each team can have it’s own variation, but principals are same.

 

[CatScratchFever23]

I think the Wing T allows a team to be competitive regardless of their size and speed. That’s not to say CC doesn’t have these but as I understand it, many coaches ran this offense years ago because they could win with it no matter the player hand they were dealt.

If you run it well and have size and speed- well we have seen what happens.

 

[CatholicCougs14]

I think the Wing T allows a team to be competitive regardless of their size and speed. That’s not to say CC doesn’t have these but as I understand it, many coaches ran this offense years ago because they could win with it no matter the player hand they were dealt.

If you run it well and have size and speed- well we have seen what happens.

Correct.

 

[splitright30trap]

Correct.

That’s what I thought but wanted to see a few opinions. I appreciate y’all.

 

[splitright30trap]

There is absolutely a formula that beats them. Division 1 QB who can make throws under pressure helps ( Jville doesnt have a Hooker, Schrader or Hughes). Big physical front 5 that can re-establish the line of scrimmage especially between the tackles( Jville doesnt have that)Great special teams and the patience required to play field position against them and make them go 80 yards not 50. ( Not sure if Jville has that)

You have lost your mind if you thing that it takes a D-1 QB to beat a high school team. Let me break it down for you in simple words.

Run the ball when you can, complete a pass when you need.

Clear Eyes Full Heart Can’t Lose!!

 

[btango]

I plan to be at the following games:
Vance v WF.
Catholic v J'ville.
Shelby v ND.
EF v Scotland.

I am more excited for the Catholic game more than any other! Can't wait to see how this plays out. Can't wait to watch the matchups and schemes. Vance and WF is going to be a complete slug fest. Shelby v ND is very interesting, also. Think that could be a very exceptional battle.

 

[btango]

I think the Wing T allows a team to be competitive regardless of their size and speed. That’s not to say CC doesn’t have these but as I understand it, many coaches ran this offense years ago because they could win with it no matter the player hand they were dealt.

If you run it well and have size and speed- well we have seen what happens.

I saw it last Friday with TL Hanna. They just ran into an outright machine in Dutch Fork!

 

[btango]

Looks to me like the SOS is a self fulfilling prophecy. Basically, teams in the West are rated better than teams in the east overall. They all play each other and are all considered to be highly ranked teams because they play and therefore, beat, each other. Terry Sanford had the #3 SOS, but went down to Havelock in the playoffs, who had a SOS lower than JHS at #54

I do not think many people were picking Terry Sanford to win that game. SOS has a lot to do with how well your opponents do and how strong their schedule is, also. Some of Terry Sanford's opponents played really strong schedules but their SOS was a bit higher than I expected.

Weddington is in the 3AA title game. Porter Ridge lost in the 3A regional final. They played Butler and Myers Park. Crest plays a tough schedule. Catholic is in the 3A title game. Mt Tabor played North Davidson and East Forsyth. Those are all teams from the west but look how they played through.

 

[btango]

A wise man once told me everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth. Then it’s insticts and your will to not get knocked out that will make you victorious. With that being said this game reminds of the of the 2014 Havelock vs Crest game Havelock had a great defense and they’re first team d never got scored on other than Mike Hughes and Josh Cabrera single handedly scoring for there teams. I think at the time they had the number 1 ranked defensive player in the country for a junior and crest came out and ran it down there throats. I’m not saying that Havelock team and this CC team is alike but I think Jacksonville May very well have that same desire to win that Crest had that year

Folks that watched the Concord game in 2013 were leaning toward Crest being able to control the line and grind the ball. The difference was they shut down the Havelock offense completely.

 

[BlueandGold34]

You have lost your mind if you thing that it takes a D-1 QB to beat a high school team. Let me break it down for you in simple words.

Run the ball when you can, complete a pass when you need.

Clear Eyes Full Heart Can’t Lose!!

Great.....Give me the name of the team without a D1 QB that has beat Catholic in the last 100 games......I'll wait.

 

[splitright30trap]

Great.....Give me the name of the team without a D1 QB that has beat Catholic in the last 100 games......I'll wait.

I’ll get back with you shortly. Sit tight....

 

[Footballaholic3232]

Good god you can’t say anything about Catholic that’s not a compliment without the fans getting mad you’d think you where in a teen group chat on this board

Yes if your not praising them and telling them how great they are you are wrong. It’s beyond any team they play to think they have a chance to beat them. Heaven forbid if their opponents fans say anything good about their team. Others words if your not kisses their butt your wrong. Then of course they get the bandwagon posters who if your team beat theirs they are still upset so to them you can’t beat Catholic. I mean all you have to do is go back and read the post. Nobody has gotten on here and talked bad about Catholic in fact have acknowledged that they are a great program. Soon as you say your team can compete with them then all hell breaks lose and your being disrespectful to them.

 

[splitright30trap]

I’ll get back with you shortly. Sit tight....

Mallard Creek

 

[BlueandGold34]

Folks that watched the Concord game in 2013 were leaning toward Crest being able to control the line and grind the ball. The difference was they shut down the Havelock offense completely.

The physical difference between that Crest team and this Jville team is vastly different. Built completley different ..Big physical oline and a battering ram in Harbison. They just ran him in the Wildcat and Havelock couldnt stop it. Havelock fast on defense but way undersized.

Take a good look at Catholic. You really think they are gonna get pushed around like Havelock did?

 

[BlueandGold34]

Mallard Creek

Nope....LJ went to Eastern Kentucky. Try again

 

[btango]

I’ll get back with you shortly. Sit tight....

Just thinking back, I think Northern Guilford in 2012 is the last team to beat them without a D1 recruit at QB.

Mike Hughes for New Bern in 2014 was a big time prospect as an athlete and played QB.

 

[splitright30trap]

The physical difference between that Crest team and this Jville team is vastly different. Built completley different ..Big physical oline and a battering ram in Harbison. They just ran him in the Wildcat and Havelock couldnt stop it. Havelock fast on defense but way undersized.

Take a good look at Catholic. You really think they are gonna get pushed around like Havelock did?

When was the last time you saw Jville play? We don’t run that wildcat cause we don’t have a QB and Running backs type of offense. We are going to do our best to be physical and make play or two.

 

[splitright30trap]

Nope....LJ went to Eastern Kentucky. Try again

Is that a D-1 school? Really???

 

[splitright30trap]

Just thinking back, I think Northern Guilford in 2012 is the last team to beat them without a D1 recruit at QB.

Mike Hughes for New Bern in 2014 was a big time prospect as an athlete and played QB.

I think you are correct. If we can control the line of scrimmage then we can move the ball successfully on the ground. Then hit the air with our precision passing game.

 

[btango]

The physical difference between that Crest team and this Jville team is vastly different. Built completley different ..Big physical oline and a battering ram in Harbison. They just ran him in the Wildcat and Havelock couldnt stop it. Havelock fast on defense but way undersized.

Take a good look at Catholic. You really think they are gonna get pushed around like Havelock did?

I am well aware and no, I do not.

Concord did a good job of moving the ball in 2013 but stalled a few times with some penalties and turnovers. The thought was if Concord could move the ball as well as they did, Crest could probably do it better because of the size of their OL. Concord had a large defensive unit but were a bit slow footed. Crest was just as big but more athletic upfront. Havelock in 2013 was small on both lines. QB had nice numbers but was not a big threat on foot or with the pass. His main guy was super small and the field swallowed him up.

 

[splitright30trap]

I am well aware and no, I do not.

Concord did a good job of moving the ball in 2013 but stalled a few times with some penalties and turnovers. The thought was if Concord could move the ball as well as they did, Crest could probably do it better because of the size of their OL. Concord had a large defensive unit but were a bit slow footed. Crest was just as big but more athletic upfront. Havelock in 2013 was small on both lines. QB had nice numbers but was not a big threat on foot or with the pass. His main guy was super small and the field swallowed him up.

So to win this game you have to be big, fast, physical and have a D-1 QB?

**** we got this....

 

[btango]

Is that a D-1 school? Really???

They are D1 FCS. Play in the Ohio Valley. He had FBS interest, also.