OT: Newark airport

yesrutgers01

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Wife flies out of Newark tomorrow morning to Atlanta. when we searched about a month ago- flights out of Phil were super expensive and only crappy airlines like Frontier and Spirit were showing up. I search now and American has some really good direct flights. sucks, because I would have booked that for her. Philly is only 50 minutes or so from me and Newark is over 2 hours.
the main reason we also tend to select EWR is because she is very familiar with the airport and she does not know the Phily airport at all.
We also both have the United Plus Cards so she gets the early boarding and club access. She may be checking a bag as she will be there a week and with the UCC - she can check it free.

Crossing fingers there are no delays
 

Leonard23

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Me as well during this time with British Airways. Are most of these delays with United?
Seems the issue is largely due to 20%+ ATC walking off the job this week, and 1 runway being closed:

"United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby says more than 20% of Newark's air traffic controllers "walked off the job" this week, forcing the airline to indefinitely remove nearly three dozen round-trip flights from its Newark schedule per day."

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" Newark officials say it is due to air traffic control staffing issues and construction on one of the runways."

 
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m1ipabrams

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We have a flight in July to Iceland from Newark and a plan to fly out of Newark to Orlando in August.

I hope this issue is resolved by then.
We are headed out to Iceland at the end of this month from EWR. It is a late night flight, so hoping that will help us. Sounds like the runway issues should be resolved before your July flight.
 
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e5fdny

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We have a flight in July to Iceland from Newark and a plan to fly out of Newark to Orlando in August.

I hope this issue is resolved by then.

We are headed out to Iceland at the end of this month from EWR. It is a late night flight, so hoping that will help us. Sounds like the runway issues should be resolved before your July flight.
Iceland is one of our future destinations.

Debating on whether a cruise or a flight.
 
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Flew United 3x from EWR this year, twice international and one domestic with no issues. Checked a bag every time for free w United card and went to lounge twice. I have a non-United intl flight coming up in the next few weeks, will see how it goes.
 

beaced_rivals

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Wife flies out of Newark tomorrow morning to Atlanta. when we searched about a month ago- flights out of Phil were super expensive and only crappy airlines like Frontier and Spirit were showing up. I search now and American has some really good direct flights. sucks, because I would have booked that for her. Philly is only 50 minutes or so from me and Newark is over 2 hours.
the main reason we also tend to select EWR is because she is very familiar with the airport and she does not know the Phily airport at all.
We also both have the United Plus Cards so she gets the early boarding and club access. She may be checking a bag as she will be there a week and with the UCC - she can check it free.

Crossing fingers there are no delays
Wishing her a safe and easy trip
 
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Runway 4L/22R was shut down on April 15 for 60 days for resurfacing. Leaves just 1 main runway and if winds are favorable the shorter runway can be used for landings. Throw in the usual FAA issues and the usual EWR issues and you have a mess for probably 6 more weeks.
How in earth should it take that long? Typical NJ BS Id imagine. Right guys didn’t get greased apparently. Piss poor planning.
 
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There used to be a driving range near the airport many years ago.Did a research assignment on the airport when I was in 7th grade in Hillside. Rmember the control tower and not much else.That was around 1937.Must have grown considerably since then.
Quite a bit. And a LOT of new construction in the last 5-10 years.
 

tom1944

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There used to be a driving range near the airport many years ago.Did a research assignment on the airport when I was in 7th grade in Hillside. Rmember the control tower and not much else.That was around 1937.Must have grown considerably since then.
Since you are from Hillside do you remember the 3 plane crashes in Elizabeth in the 1950's. I believe at least 1 was near the Hillside border close to the Westminster section of Elizabeth.
 

JayDogSmooth

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Flying to Richmond on Monday morning.

Was feeling good until the latest dissertation of EWR typical nonsense - I just assume I will be a minimum of 60 to 90 minutes delayed
 

m1ipabrams

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Iceland is one of our future destinations.

Debating on whether a cruise or a flight.
We are flying to Iceland and doing a couple days around Reykjavik and then getting on cruise up to Svalbard and then down the Norway fjords to Copenhagen. Packing is going to be a *****….
 

RULoyal

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My daughter and her boyfriend are currently waiting their turn to takeoff to Portland. Flight was originally scheduled to leave at 5:30.

Finally took off at 8:10
 
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hoquat63

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Since you are from Hillside do you remember the 3 plane crashes in Elizabeth in the 1950's. I believe at least 1 was near the Hillside border close to the Westminster section of Elizabeth.
I lived in Roselle back then - maybe about 5 years old, remember it was a big deal
 

yesrutgers01

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United just sent a text for my wife’s morning flight about the ATC walking off the job and potential of delays, camels and if needed, she can’t change flights at no cost. Crossing fingers she doesn’t need to
 

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And right on cue, I received a text from United warning about delays for tomorrow morning's flight from Newark to Richmond
 

JayDogSmooth

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You could probably get there faster by car
Originally was supposed to go to Norfolk, but there was a connection in DC so I opted for Richmond instead. You’re right though, going to Richmond by car would be faster, but then having to drive another hour and a half down in Norfolk and then 7 1/2 hours back would be kind of brutal.
 

Jtung230

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Originally was supposed to go to Norfolk, but there was a connection in DC so I opted for Richmond instead. You’re right though, going to Richmond by car would be faster, but then having to drive another hour and a half down in Norfolk and then 7 1/2 hours back would be kind of brutal.
It’s 6.5 hr drive if you take the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
 

yesrutgers01

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And right on cue, I received a text from United warning about delays for tomorrow morning's flight from Newark to Richmond
We got that yesterday too. Got the wife to EWR at 5:30 this morning all departures on-time and she got out without a hiccup. 4 mins early
I’m not liking term C. I wanted to wait for her to get through TSA and into Untied Club before leaving. Since we are 2.5 hours away. There used to be some restaurants outside of the gate area and now just a crappy Dunkin Donutes and Starbucks- nothing else
But, at least no problems for her flight
 

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Weird post by Shannon Watts when Tom Costello is not mentioned in the story. Elon Musk is a turd. Here is more on the story, and kudos to Sean Duffy for not licking Musk's boots.

"During a closed-door Cabinet meeting in March, Duffy reportedly accused Elon Musk’s team at the Department of Government Efficiency of trying to fire air traffic controllers at the FAA, according to The New York Times.



"Musk called the accusation a “lie,” but Duffy said he had heard it from the DOGE staffers directly. Musk asked who had been fired, requesting specific names. Duffy responded that there were no names, because he had stopped the firings."


Haste makes waste. Musk did the same thing with World Trade Center Health Program staff. Remember 9/11 and never forget? Everyone loves first responders. Apparently Musk forgot so that he could save a few bucks. Shameful.

Since the Trump Administration started, a quarter of the WTCHP staff are now gone.

This is an outrageous betrayal of 9/11 responders and survivors.

While the World Trade Center Health Program is apparently back providing treatment to 9/11 responders and survivors who were just diagnosed with cancer, after earlier denying treatment, the question is for how long?
As we reported in our statement of April 30th, Dr. David Prezant, Chief Medical Officer, Director, FDNY World Trade Center Health Program, was not able to provide cancer care starting on Monday, April 28th, to members of his clinic who had developed cancer because the WTCHP program would not let him. Not only Dr. Prezant, but all of the NY-area clinics, reported that they could no longer provide treatment for new cancer cases.



 

beaced_rivals

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There used to be a driving range near the airport many years ago.Did a research assignment on the airport when I was in 7th grade in Hillside. Rmember the control tower and not much else.That was around 1937.Must have grown considerably since then.I spent most of my life either residing or teaching in Newark,All good memories. Was last there in 1985.Lived in Edison since 1961.Graduated from elementary and high school and University while there.Got married and lived there until we moved t


Since you are from Hillside do you remember the 3 plane crashes in Elizabeth in the 1950's. I believe at least 1 was near the Hillside border close to the Westminster section of Elizabeth.
We moved back to Newark in 1938.BTW. Phil Rizzuto lived in the Westminster area. I was substitute teaching at Saybrook school,in that area ,and noticed,before the kids came into the room,that Phil's daughter was in that 5th grade class.I had printed my name on the board and when the kids had come in and had taken their seats I introduced myself ,pointed to the board and pronounced my name.One of the boys raised his hand and asked me if I liked baseball.I said that -I did and added"But I hate the Yankees". The entire class went" OOOH" ! When the class had settled down I pointed to Phil's daughter and said that I knew who she was and that I actually liked the Yanks. Finn time back in the DAY.
 

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How in earth should it take that long? Typical NJ BS Id imagine. Right guys didn’t get greased apparently. Piss poor planning.
It's not just repaving, I've heard that they are also upgrading the lights and other things along/around that runway.
 

DHajekRC84

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Seems the issue is largely due to 20%+ ATC walking off the job this week, and 1 runway being closed:

"United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby says more than 20% of Newark's air traffic controllers "walked off the job" this week, forcing the airline to indefinitely remove nearly three dozen round-trip flights from its Newark schedule per day."

* * *

" Newark officials say it is due to air traffic control staffing issues and construction on one of the runways."

So this is a local 1 airport issue not some national staffing one lol.

I hate EWR and always fly out of PHL when possible.
 

DHajekRC84

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And right on cue, I received a text from United warning about delays for tomorrow morning's flight from Newark to Richmond
Drive.. if Me i would. You like to anyway, no? Baltimore, Boston.. Richmond is that much more.

OK I see this was already discussed. Another cheaper option is to go down eastern shore and go over Annapolis bridge and take 301 south into Richmond. Free save a toll on route 1 express in Delaware.
 
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Joey Bags

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Weird post by Shannon Watts when Tom Costello is not mentioned in the story. Elon Musk is a turd. Here is more on the story, and kudos to Sean Duffy for not licking Musk's boots.

"During a closed-door Cabinet meeting in March, Duffy reportedly accused Elon Musk’s team at the Department of Government Efficiency of trying to fire air traffic controllers at the FAA, according to The New York Times.



"Musk called the accusation a “lie,” but Duffy said he had heard it from the DOGE staffers directly. Musk asked who had been fired, requesting specific names. Duffy responded that there were no names, because he had stopped the firings."


Haste makes waste. Musk did the same thing with World Trade Center Health Program staff. Remember 9/11 and never forget? Everyone loves first responders. Apparently Musk forgot so that he could save a few bucks. Shameful.

Since the Trump Administration started, a quarter of the WTCHP staff are now gone.

This is an outrageous betrayal of 9/11 responders and survivors.

While the World Trade Center Health Program is apparently back providing treatment to 9/11 responders and survivors who were just diagnosed with cancer, after earlier denying treatment, the question is for how long?
As we reported in our statement of April 30th, Dr. David Prezant, Chief Medical Officer, Director, FDNY World Trade Center Health Program, was not able to provide cancer care starting on Monday, April 28th, to members of his clinic who had developed cancer because the WTCHP program would not let him. Not only Dr. Prezant, but all of the NY-area clinics, reported that they could no longer provide treatment for new cancer cases.



This is the problem with blanket percentage headcount reductions. This is common practice in the private sector as well. New CEO comes in and tells the company every department needs to cut 20% of staff and has a couple days to make decisions. Fast forward a year and sales and revenue crater as the business is now dysfunctional.
 

Jtung230

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So this is a local 1 airport issue not some national staffing one lol.

I hate EWR and always fly out of PHL when possible.
Are you equal distance between the two? I haven’t had any issues out of EWR. It’s not a local issue because it’s EWR. It will have ripple effects. I flew to Europe in March and Indy in April. No issues. Flying to Charleston later this month. Will see how that goes.
 

koleszar

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Weird post by Shannon Watts when Tom Costello is not mentioned in the story. Elon Musk is a turd. Here is more on the story, and kudos to Sean Duffy for not licking Musk's boots.

"During a closed-door Cabinet meeting in March, Duffy reportedly accused Elon Musk’s team at the Department of Government Efficiency of trying to fire air traffic controllers at the FAA, according to The New York Times.



"Musk called the accusation a “lie,” but Duffy said he had heard it from the DOGE staffers directly. Musk asked who had been fired, requesting specific names. Duffy responded that there were no names, because he had stopped the firings."


Haste makes waste. Musk did the same thing with World Trade Center Health Program staff. Remember 9/11 and never forget? Everyone loves first responders. Apparently Musk forgot so that he could save a few bucks. Shameful.

Since the Trump Administration started, a quarter of the WTCHP staff are now gone.

This is an outrageous betrayal of 9/11 responders and survivors.

While the World Trade Center Health Program is apparently back providing treatment to 9/11 responders and survivors who were just diagnosed with cancer, after earlier denying treatment, the question is for how long?
As we reported in our statement of April 30th, Dr. David Prezant, Chief Medical Officer, Director, FDNY World Trade Center Health Program, was not able to provide cancer care starting on Monday, April 28th, to members of his clinic who had developed cancer because the WTCHP program would not let him. Not only Dr. Prezant, but all of the NY-area clinics, reported that they could no longer provide treatment for new cancer cases.



You do realize they've been having issues since last year (not to this extent) when they moved airspace control of the Newark area from Newark to Philly, they relocated over a dozen air traffic controllers in the change. This was supposed to ease the burden on Newark but didn't. Now you add in the 20% walkout because they didn't like how things were being run after the move, coupled with runway construction and here we are. This had nothing to do with DOGE.
 
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Rutgers Chris

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Are you equal distance between the two? I haven’t had any issues out of EWR. It’s not a local issue because it’s EWR. It will have ripple effects. I flew to Europe in March and Indy in April. No issues. Flying to Charleston later this month. Will see how that goes.
When I lived up the road from @DHajekRC84 it was a toss up between PHL and EWR. Depended on flight time, destination, etc. Used PHL mainly for years but EWR being a United hub eventually won out. Hopefully they get this all straightened out
 

DHajekRC84

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Are you equal distance between the two? I haven’t had any issues out of EWR. It’s not a local issue because it’s EWR. It will have ripple effects. I flew to Europe in March and Indy in April. No issues. Flying to Charleston later this month. Will see how that goes.
50 to phl and 1.15 to Newark. When I said local I ment just the departure thing. You're right as a hub it has other significant impacts.
My DIL and grandson were supposed to return today. Canceled and coming back tomorrow.

Put this and the read I'd thing together..yikes!! Flying out sat am for Sunday cruise (miami). .. ought to be fun..
 

JayDogSmooth

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Weird post by Shannon Watts when Tom Costello is not mentioned in the story. Elon Musk is a turd. Here is more on the story, and kudos to Sean Duffy for not licking Musk's boots.

"During a closed-door Cabinet meeting in March, Duffy reportedly accused Elon Musk’s team at the Department of Government Efficiency of trying to fire air traffic controllers at the FAA, according to The New York Times.



"Musk called the accusation a “lie,” but Duffy said he had heard it from the DOGE staffers directly. Musk asked who had been fired, requesting specific names. Duffy responded that there were no names, because he had stopped the firings."


Haste makes waste. Musk did the same thing with World Trade Center Health Program staff. Remember 9/11 and never forget? Everyone loves first responders. Apparently Musk forgot so that he could save a few bucks. Shameful.

Since the Trump Administration started, a quarter of the WTCHP staff are now gone.

This is an outrageous betrayal of 9/11 responders and survivors.

While the World Trade Center Health Program is apparently back providing treatment to 9/11 responders and survivors who were just diagnosed with cancer, after earlier denying treatment, the question is for how long?
As we reported in our statement of April 30th, Dr. David Prezant, Chief Medical Officer, Director, FDNY World Trade Center Health Program, was not able to provide cancer care starting on Monday, April 28th, to members of his clinic who had developed cancer because the WTCHP program would not let him. Not only Dr. Prezant, but all of the NY-area clinics, reported that they could no longer provide treatment for new cancer cases.



Yep
Musk is a piece of ****

Didn’t help rescue astronauts stuck in space
Didn’t assist NC people flooded w Starlite

Hasn’t made numerous other positive contributions to society than most people, including you and I, could only dream of

Weirdo, yes
Creepy, definitely
Moving too fast at times w Dodge.. absolutely

But overall, to characterize the guy as a turd… to put a kindly, that’s a bit of a stretch
 
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